Thursday, January 29, 2009

Wobbly Compiz

Ah Compiz, the darling of the freetard community. How many users were led to carnal bliss by your wobbling windows? How many were not heard from for several weeks as they navigated the wild expanse known as the CompizConfig Settings Manager?

Oh what is that you say LWN, diligent summarizer of freetardery? You say compiz is dying? And in true open source fashion?

…the community has been affected by the withdrawal of Compiz project leader David Reveman. Reveman's departure, apparently made without any official announcement, has led to a lack of leadership, since no experienced Compiz developer appears willing to assume the role of community organizer.

All I have to say is:

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Wasn’t this the project that was finally supposed to bring Linux ahead of the desktop OS pack? Don’t worry about shitty drivers or not being able to smoothly resize windows. This is hot shit man! I fuckin’ replaced by bedroom window with saran wrap so that, it too, could wobble.

C’mon guys. This is your star player, your poster child, the shining example of what OSS can accomplish, better and faster than those commercial companies, and you freetards can’t even keep that going. The rest of the article is depressingly typical, of course.. too few developers, too many branches, no leadership, bad code, blah blah blah blah.

But there’s a great little suggestion at the end:

But it may be that, now that the novelty of 3-D special effects have worn off, few reasons exist to develop them; the few practical effects, such as zooms, are too slight to encourage the majority to move away from standard 2-D desktops.

Wait, are you suggesting that a bunch of freetards got excited by a little bling, and went gung-ho on a new project, hyped it to the max (take that Microsoft and Apple!), without first thinking about whether they’re actually solving a user’s problem? Why, freetards would never do that… would they?

You guys need to wake the fuck up. No amount of wobbling is going to make a user switch to Linux and like it. I think they just might actually want working wireless and cool games, and fonts that don’t make you cry. But that’s just my hunch. Feel free to continue ignoring it.

And even if you’re going to keep working on this, why not try to do it in a way that doesn’t break shit that already worked? Like video? or OpenGL apps? I don’t care if a baboon wrote the drivers for my graphics card. It used to work. Now it doesn’t. FAIL.

Oh, and let me tell you a little secret: You can get wobbly windows on any platform, even Win95! Just browse to your favorite porn site, start a video, let your left hand do its thing (or your right, if you’re left-handed, of course), and at the same time drag a window around. If you don’t see it, just try harder. At the end, you might even get a cool Compiz-like liquid-on-your-screen effect.

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Anonymous said...

Fucking moron shame you just didn't just die

Anonymous said...

I know many people who switched to Linux solely because of Compiz. Millions of people see Compiz videos on YouTube. Compiz was HUGE for Linux adoption, as "sucky lawl" as it apparently is.

You Linux Hater, are wrong (as usual).

Anonymous said...

I don't care you're right or wrong. Its just the way you write, I will read it even if you wrote about plant eating trolls. Btw the last para just blew me away.

Anonymous said...

Millions of people see Compiz on Youtube, or even try out a Live CD.
Some switch.
The majority chuckles, and goes on with its live.

LinuxHater,
I missed your rants!

Anonymous said...

What these people miss is that you actually understand Linux. You're not just some guy paying it out, you know how linux works both socially and technically which grants your rants much credence in my book.

And the second commenter is... an idiot. They REINFORCED your point. Compiz is the poster child, millions use it - and yet it still can't retain a leader or any coherent organisation. Hah!

Np237 said...

Yay, LHB is back! However, you could have chosen a more flame-generating topic for your come-back. Just because a bunch of losers were wanking at wobbling windows doesn’t mean the compiz crap met a great echo for those who care about usability.

Actually, I don’t think there are other distributions than Ubuntu (which is #1 for adding useless features to wank at) who actually made compiz the default.

Anonymous said...

You are absolutely right! Now that Compiz is gone, there is no reason whatsoever to use Linux any more. I will go and buy a copy of Windows at once. Never mind that I just spent a lot of money on Linux Certification. Never mind that I don't even use Compiz. Or that I usually don't move or resize windows (that's what I have multiple desktops for)
All those Compiz programmers will be devastated that they can no longer help to sell Linux to the mass market, which is obviously their main objective. Every time I write a little program myself, I obviously do so in order to promote Linux. But wait - I have yet to publish anything, so maybe that wasn't entirely truthful. Maybe I just like writing programs that do fun things, like make my windows wobble?
On a more serious note, I don't think it's wise to switch to Linux because of Compiz. Compiz may be one nice feature, but if the only reason for using Linux is Compiz, you probably shouldn't switch.
Obviously, you win this argument since I cannot come up with as many creative uses of insults, but anyway

Benjamin said...

Hey

I find it really cool that you're back into flaming.
I really hope you keep a certain quality in your posts (like now you almost have). Shortly before LHB was thrown into the toilet for some time, the quality of the posts really went down dramatically. The first 5-10 posts were of superb quality.
Spot on, factually correct and showed very clearly what you're talking about and on the same time, keeping your flame-in-town tone.
Please, keep that style :)

Stilgar said...

I believe some people do actually switch because of Compiz. These are usually the kind of people you don't want using computer anyway. Who in their right mind would like to use wobbling windows. Ever? Ever wondered why Apple or MS never introduced this "feature"?

neaorin said...

I really like Compiz (with only about one in six plugins activated) and I'd say it's got enough eye candy in it for just about every regular user right now. I don't blame Dave Reveman for wanting to get into something else.

np237 said...

@Stilgar

Actually MSN includes similar features that make windows shake or wobble, and that’s part of the reasons for its success.

Never underestimate the users’ stupidity. It is not confined to Linux users.

Anonymous said...

1. Compiz never worked correctly either ATI or nVidia graphics cards.
It never left the EPIC FAIL realm.

2. Compositing windows managers has been integral part of the "other" operation systems for the last couple of years: Dwm on Vista, Quartz Extreme on OsX (Quartz is software rendered). And those never failed to work.

3. Compiz has been huge - even though it was never more than a broken technology demo, it attracted a lot of the 12 years old "It Spins!!!1" crowd. Those people have since moved to use Windows 7 beta (since it's the next shiny thing). (I'm speculating, of course, but that's the gust of it).

4. The full entirety of Linux userland have always been, probably always be, EPIC FAIL. With the soon to be obsolete exception of Firefox (when Google will stop financing them). That include OpenOffice, Gimp, and Eclipse - fail, fail, and fail.

5. The only thing that may give Desktop Linux some stay is the LGPLing of Qt - until the usual "politicize and stagnate" spirit of FOSS will take a hold.

As for desktop Linux: How can you kill it who never lived?

Ruurd said...

Yeah well, some wankers write linux hater blog entries to get wobbly windows...

Platypus said...

Welcome back, LH.

Anonymous said...

Hey all,
Well if compiz fusion is NOT working for any of you , it is most definitly a testament to I.D.I.O.T. User stupidity!
The video drivers work fine, if they don't for you then YOU screwed them up, and for no good reason since there is top notch "free" help for that.
If anything on your system didnt work after enabling compiz fusion. again.. user stupidity!
Apparently its much easier to complain via idiocy than to think and ask questions to accomplish the goals for you people.
It's ok not to know how to press a few buttons , or tick a few radio buttons, or even restart X. We understand that you are used to everything being done for you instead of taking control of your system. You are more content in purchasing software than just simply downloading it "free", including virus protection and spyware removal.You of course will let apple or microsoft dictate to you how your system works, and what it looks like., We understand!
I own a business that deals with both residential and corporate systems. I have switched most of my residential clients over to Ubuntu. No a single client has complained. They have mentioned the ease of use, comfortable browsing considering they dont have to worry about viruses and spyware, amazed at the 45,000 free software choices.
Please, DO NOT use Linux. I am quite happy making a lot of money by fixing problems with your mac and windows machines.
I am begging you to NOT move over to linux
thanks

smspillaz said...

(This is a compiz developer)

Hi.

Great post once again. I've always enjoyed the quality of the rants on your blog and have been waiting for our project to be picked on for quite some time.

Anyways, in the traditional 'Developer has outrage against Linux Hater' sense, I've written a little post which serves as a rebuttal to some of your points.

http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/apparantly-were-hated-now/

Enjoy and do get back to me =)

Cheers,

Sam

Anonymous said...

1. There is a known tearing problem using nVidia drivers.

2. ATI Linux drivers are known to be very slow.

3. If Linux is ready for the desktop, why the hell should I change its diapers? Doing XYZ post install in order to enable an advertised feature is a FAIL.

Anonymous said...

@np237

"Actually MSN includes similar features that make windows shake or wobble, and that’s part of the reasons for its success."

All of this stuff was done by proprietary software before Compiz.

Vista does "stupid compositing tricks", iPhones zoom and MacOS supports cube rotation effects.

Thing is, no one is going to switch OSs because of this stuff. Hell, I turned most of it off in Vista because it annoyed me. I've got an iPod Touch too and all the eye candy irritated me there too after a while. I actually prefer the simplistic UI on my generic Taiwanese MP3 player, which is also about 1/3 the price.

See OS eye candy levels are a bit like hemlines, they fluctuate according to fashion. Vista was released at the point when it was fashionable to have an eye candy rich OS. Now it's not - the excellent Windows 7 Beta has a minimalist UI and focuses on speed. As usual the freetards have just finished copying Vista's stupid crap just at the point where people are heartily sick of it.

It's walking around dressed in an All Your Base T Shirt two years late. It doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like a dork who only understands fads after everyone else is irritated by them. A follower, not a leader. A fashion victim.

Of course, Linux fanboys are a bunch of asspies, so they don't understand stuff like this.

And welcome back Linux Hater, keep the cluebat swinging.

Anonymous said...

@smspillaz
I'm the idiot with the bullet points.
Your response is highly appreciated.

Several notes:
1. End users need not care whose blame it is.By volume, Nvidia and ATI are #2 and #3 graphics card manufacturers (Intel is #1, with 40%). If your product does not work well on ~60% of cards in existence, it is a real, huge problem.

2. If your product causes regression in functionality compared to when it's disabled, it's a real, huge problem.

3. The future is in the future, and porting your code to c++ is, in my opinion, a good idea. BUT, as it stands, your product, in its current state, is not ready for widespread use, and is already two years behind the competition.

4. I agree that that Compiz is huge for a certain kind of crowd. However, Compiz offers a very shallow advantage (eye candy), and that advantage has already been erased by the competition.

5. A question: since Kwin and Metacity are working on compositing support, does Compiz have any reason to exists as a separate project? It has proved the feasibility of compositing on the free desktop. Can't it now retire?

Again, thanks for your replies, and for your efforts developing Compiz.

Hugh Isaacs II the Maître d' said...

To the commenter who said "All of this stuff was done by proprietary software before Compiz" and that "no one is going to switch OSs because of this stuff".

One of the reasons I use Linux because of the eye candy, yes I can't argue that it's more productive or anything, but it's fun and that's one thing the computer industry lacks.

and the other thing, the reason why Open Source is better than closed source regarding the "All of this stuff was done by proprietary software before Compiz" line.

It's that the user gains not some corporation, if Apple announces support for Compiz plugins, Mac OS X users gain all sorts of new functions like 3D glasses support, etc...

Yes, like I've said it doesn't always amount to productivity or anything, but it's nice to have available for alot of users.

-----

and is anyone but me seeing the irony in this blog running on Blogger which is powered by Google which runs on Linux?

smspillaz said...

@Anonymous:

Thanks for the reply. Small rebuttals"

1) Unfortunately, it is the way it is. We have done everything we can to work around driver issues and there is really nothing further that we can do considering that all the limitation lie within components lower than us. It's also worth noting that these limitations are also present in KWin and Metacity.

2) In an ideal world, this would not be the case. However, again the problem is beneath us, so I see no real reason to blame compiz.

3) I would say it's ready, or at least myself and my family use it every day (my parents don't even know what the software that 'does pretty looking things' is called) and have never had any trouble with it. The only trouble I ever have with compiz is the fact that my version local of compiz is quite h4x0r3d up and although it's testing and cutting edge, is full of bugs which I haven't got around to fixing. Noting that this is my local version and not available outside my computer.

Also, how is compiz behind the competition? There is nothing in either Aero or Quartz that wasn't in compiz already. In fact, many extensions to these compositors are based off compiz, see DeskSpace.

5) It would be a very sad thing to see compiz retire as it was possibly the most successful cross desktop window manager the linux community has seen in a long time. Additionally, the developers have put a lot of hard work into compiz, too much to let it die. Also, compiz is still way ahead in terms of functionality than both KWin and Metacity and I can't see that changing anytime soon.

4)

pz said...

haha je vais même pas traduire en anglais mon commentaire tellement ton article et ton blog (et ta famille surement) ne sert à rien...
Les trolls sur linux c'est tellement facile que ca me fait penser que tu as bien raison de détester linux, ne t'en fait pas c'est réciproque : linux est fait pour les gens qui le mérite. Toi non.

Noam Samuel said...

Not sure why the hell people called you an eloquent critic. That was a terrible, poorly though out post full of keyword thinking, name-calling and strawmen.

Color me unimpressed.

Anonymous said...

Liunx Hater's Blog - proof of how many pricks there are on the internet!

Anonymous said...

Hahahah.

Compiz was only a colossal delusional masquerade worthless except but to upload freetarded videos to youtube.

With Linux this is what always happens. Freetards hype something that nobody gives two shits about, until the "next big thing" comes again, and it all repeats itself.

So... what will be the new Compiz? KDE 4.2?

Anonymous said...

@pz:
Of course it's not for LH and most of haters here. Our time isn't worthless like some of you.

Anonymous said...

Two points:

1. Compiz offers a lot of useless bling, but also usability improvements.

2. Eye candy is important by itself. Saying it isn't is like saying "Gisele has a vagina, my 200kg fat neighbour has a vagina, I'll stick with the neighbour".

Anonymous said...

Good post LH. Keep up ranting.

Compiz, R.I.P.

kerensky said...

QUALITY STUFFFF!!!!!!! Its been so long!!! I laughed so much, esp. the bit about win95.

COMPIZ, OMFG, talk about putting the cart before the horse! No 3D drivers but all these fancy 3D effects. Jackass lusers!

Linux Hater Hater said...

I never liked Compiz, that's true, but eyecandy in Linux is FUCKING FAR BETTER than in other OS.
C'mon in Winchot Vista you can change slightly the color of the windows, but in GNOME you can change every little piece of color and use diferent engines and a lot more shit.
M$ is making his "people" all the same just like every idiot-controller empire does, because if the are all stupid, you can sell them shit, very expensive SHIT.

kerensky said...

LOL "proper 3D drivers" that should be.

Anonymous said...

Nobody gives a fuck about "effects" if the compositing manager does not work.

That's what freetards can never get. And they don't get that anyway they have way more important things to fix first either.

Anonymous said...

@ smspillaz
Also, how is compiz behind the competition? There is nothing in either Aero or Quartz that wasn't in compiz already.
When will we see live window resizing with adjustment of the window contents? This works on non-composited Linux desktops, Mac OS X 10.x and Windows XP, Vista and later just fine. But all you get, once you run compiz is a grey rectangle showing the new shape of the window.
Compiz doesn't support drag and drop of files in the clone of Mac OS X's Exposé. In Mac OS you can grab and hold a file, image or text, then invoke Exposé to see all your windows, select the one you want, and release the file into the window. Compiz doesn't support this.
Well and Aero and Quartz both have far superior font rendering of course. And video playback and OpenGL in a window don't suck monkey balls.
The settings and plug-in management is a pain in the ass. Four plugins that have almost the same functionality and don't work well with each other or with the default ones. Feels like juggling extensions back in Mac OS 9.

You will probably blame some of these onto either X.org, drivers or the desktop environments. I don't fucking care! Make it work!

You fail. Compiz is fun, no question about that. But it's far inferior to Quartz and Aero.

Anonymous said...

@smspillaz
1. While the problem does not lies in your level of implementation, it still exists, affect compiz, and render your commendable efforts ineffective.
A desktop environment is a multi-layered system. If the foundations are broken, relying on them to build the upper layers will be a study in frustration.
-- In short - it's not a blame game. You can do whatever you possibly can, and thank you for that, but in the end everything is judged by the final result, not effort. (Make no mistake, I do respect the Compiz team and your work)

2. What about taking the OsX route, and using a software based rendering as a fall back? this worked quite well for most generations of Quartz.

3. As for - "too much effort to throw away" - nothing is ever thrown away completely, the code can be kept for reference and ideas. In the end. every product runs it course - and than there's the next evolutionary step. It's okay, it does not mean that your effort are worthless, but sometimes people should move on.

4.On other note (and a little moving away from the main topic) I also believe that now that Qt has been LGPLed, Gtk can be abandoned, since it fulfilled it's original purpose, and frankly, never was more than mediocre stop-gap toolkit.




--idiot with bulleted lists

Anonymous said...

I'm no rocket scientist, but I'm a huge Linux fan, I still though don't see any problems with this article;

While Compiz is pretty awesome, it still cannot mass to OSX's fluid interface, and I HATE Macs and everything that is Apple (seriously, back in college I used to make it a daily errand to walk into the Mac store next to my university and make fun of Apple products.)

Compiz won't win us the OS war, not that it won't help though, but it's true; if you want a "mainstream" machine you are stuck with windows :S

Anonymous said...

Actually, much of Compiz's funtionality has already made it into recent versions of GNOME & KDE. So whether the project itself survives is irrelevant. It's already served its purpose by improving Linux users' desktop grahpics experience.

Anonymous said...

WHO THE EFF SAID anything about Compiz. I am a Linux user from 7 years.. and never used effing wobbly compiz.
I use linux because - It can Play Ausi/Video, I can code on it, I can pirate movies on it... and what not... All that for free...

LHB - You Suck! (Literally)

--- WorldHater

ray said...

I'm so glad you're back, Linux Hater.

p.s. i use the term "rotating cubes" to refer to all that desktop graphics bullshit, after that rotating cube that impresses all the lunix cultists. you're welcome to use it too.

Anonymous said...

This was a dumb post. Hater please try again.

Anonymous said...

I have an Nvidia card in my laptop and Compiz works just fine. It even worked on computers I installed on with only 512 MB RAM, Aero can't handle that.

Really fuck you and your bullshit lies. All you are trying to do is ruin a genuinely good thing. So fuck you.

Anonymous said...

@2:21 PM

Nice "WorksForMe"

Russell said...

Glad you're back LH, the last paragraph was solid gold!

Keep it up!

Russell said...

And to add to that last paragraph: Compiz -> Compjizz

Anonymous said...

Disappointing. Just as a bad comedian pursuing an easy laugh, the poster seems in a hurry to succumb to his own ineptitude with words, thereby recurring abusively to petty language. Not an intelectually stimulating read, I'm afraid.

Anonymous said...

what a fag, did richard stallman break your heart when you were just grad students, is that why you hate him so much, or was it handsome linus, a she'gal has life so hard

Anonymous said...

If he is gone someone will pull it together, or another group will take the source and make it there own improving it more. That's the nature of OSS

Now for you Windows & Apple retards, when MS or Apple decide to drop something, it is gone for good. No one else can just come along, download the source, and release an updated version like always happens to any dropped OSS project.

Proprietary code == FAIL

Anonymous said...

Dude, nobody is forcing you use Linux. It's free and comes with a lot of freedom. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Stick with windows and don't bitch about Linux.

Anonymous said...

He is using the typical Microsoft FUD tactic. It's pretty much the biggest anti-Linux weapon at their disposal.

Anonymous said...

Oh I think you hit a nerve hater! The lintards are seething that you would take a shot at their baby, compiz.

They are quickly going the rationalization route that compiz has "run it's course" and "served it's purpose". The collective will latch on to the mantra soon. They will all be able to recite it even with their heads buried in the sand and their fingers in their ears.

The funny thing is that compiz never even made it to a simply stable and robust release. Do you still have to google how to actually get the cube to work in Ubuntu? LOL.

Anonymous said...

Do you still have to google how to actually get the cube to work in Ubuntu? LOL.

Depends on the distro. Ubuntu since 7.10 has included Compiz out of the box.

Anonymous said...

Depends on the distro. Ubuntu since 7.10 has included Compiz out of the box.


Uh yeah. Except out of the box only two desktops are enabled. Actually getting the cube to work required googling for a non-intuitive set of steps. You know that cube thing that is the first thing people are shown and think of about compiz.

Anonymous said...

Dude, nobody is forcing you use Linux. It's free and comes with a lot of freedom. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Stick with windows and don't bitch about Linux.

The day lintards stop insulting people for not choosing your superior OS that's the day we will stop telling the world how much it sucks, and why.

Vadi said...

This useless blog of moaning and bitching is still going?

Daym, good thing the tubes don't allow in the face punches yet.

glootech said...

Compiz is made of fail. Even fancy alt-tabbing isn't working right.

Anonymous said...

Have you submitted a bug report? Or are you just going to vaguely bitch about it on a blog?

Sigh..

Anonymous said...

Compiz works great for me on my work and home desktops and my laptop. It's not why I use GNU/Linux, but it sure is nice for desktops/laptops. I've used Mac and Windows for 15 years and for the past few it's nothing but Linux. Why? Because it let's me do everything I want a computer to do.

This blog is pure idiocy. Who cares if you do or do not like Open Source Software? It's here to stay, jack ass, because it works for a lot of people. Guess what, you can use whatever you want.

Anonymous said...

Its glad to see you're again in track. I'm a cross-OS user and I can agree on many facts you pointed out on previous blogs, but this entry is really lame.

I don't know, seems that someone has just rubbed compiz's wobbly windows on your face too many times at the point you're totally blind and pissed of. I can understand that, but the fact is that a 3D accelerated environment and effects are pretty useful to me: I can, for example, zoom out a window, left it sticky on the desktop to keep an eye on a process while I'm doing something else.

Said that, Compiz now needs to die or merge as a legacy component for windows managers, because the time of experimentation has now ended.

Oh, and I don't use wobbly windows, I found them annoying as hell :p

Anonymous said...

I can understand that, but the fact is that a 3D accelerated environment and effects are pretty useful to me

Like many others, you are missing the point. Let me spell it for you:

1- Compiz is a disaster. It does not work. Blame the drivers, blame the X stack, it does not fucking matter.

2- Desktop effects, hyped by the deluded lintards as the great savior, even if they worked properly (see point 1) are not such thing. People can't care about them when their hardware doesn't work, quality apps are missing, fonts look like crap, usability is a mess, a standard desktop platform is still missing, and releases are fucked up and riddled with bugs more often than not.

Anonymous said...

I love this blog!!!!! Got it on my RSS feed now :)

You really do know linux inside and out and the deficiencies that can and should be fixed.

It's a shame but Linux has already fragmented into so many disparate distros, it's hard as an app develoepr to write code that will work across distros consistently.

The Linux community really needs to take a long hard look at itself to fix these issues and coordinate development better.

Anonymous said...

@January 31, 2009 4:55 PM

Compiz works for the vast vast majority of people. If it doesn't work for you, you should probably fill out a bug report instead of bitching on a blog. All this blog is doing is spreading FUD.

Anonymous said...

Like many others, you are missing the point. Let me spell it for you:
Sorry, but still I don't see it. As you stated on point 2: you're pissed of.
Sure, a lot of people got hyped about Compiz, but THEY missed the point, and I don't think of it as Compiz fault.
Compiz is/was an experiment, a proof of concept, a pretty clever one (and for me even useful). It succeeded as an experiment, but now it must evolve as a full desktop, get integrated as part of another desktop (gnome?) or die.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"2. Eye candy is important by itself. Saying it isn't is like saying "Gisele has a vagina, my 200kg fat neighbour has a vagina, I'll stick with the neighbour"."

WTF is wrong with you freetards? Can't you for once come up with an analogy that doesn't draw attention to the fact you're fat, necknearded, wolf shirted, sexually frustrated losers.

Anonymous said...

Sure, a lot of people got hyped about Compiz, but THEY missed the point, and I don't think of it as Compiz fault.
Compiz is/was an experiment, a proof of concept, a pretty clever one (and for me even useful). It succeeded as an experiment, but now it must evolve as a full desktop, get integrated as part of another desktop (gnome?) or die.



Rationalize my brotha Rationalize!

You lintards are hopeless.

Yet another linux project hailed as the thing that launches linux mainstream but never reaches a robust stable state before dying. So once again the lintard collective decides it's not a failure but rather it was an "experiment" all along. Hurray!

Anonymous said...

Erm, well, yes it was, I mean, is not Linux a big experimental platform? But I see your point now.

Anonymous said...

Erm, well, yes it was, I mean, is not Linux a big experimental platform?

It is. The thing is, someone should tell the lintards.

jman6495 said...

LOL
i have some things to say to you:
1.YOU ARE A MORON.
2.LINUX IS CLASS
3.You are a moron again because i hate you
4.do you work for microsoft?
5.WAHOOOOOO I LOVE COMPIZ!!!!
6.It Works On 95% Of Modern Computers
7.Go And Play With Your Toys Little Boy Your Not Ready To PLay With The Big Boys yet,Nor Are You Good Enough To Use A Computer So GET SCREWED
8.Perhaps The Worst PLace To Host A Anti-Linux Website Is ON A Linux Server!
9.YOU ARE A MORON AGAIN

Freddy said...

"6.It Works On 95% Of Modern Computers"

And for the missing 5% just file a bug report, maybe in a couple of years someone will come back to you asking for some logs.

Of course in the meantime you would have switched to OSX.

DamnRight said...

I'd say that having your labor of love project hijacked, effectively splitting the community and codebase in half then unsuccessfully attempting to stitch it back together probably had something to do with Reveman finally giving the finger to the whole thing.

Bazaar my ass.

How long until Shuttleworth snaps? How much clueless whining can a smart wealthy dude take? More importantly, can you imagine something like that going on inside the Quartz/Aqua team at Apple? Here goes Jobs strollin' down the corridor flamethrower in hand, baby!

Anonymous said...

I submitted a bug report but the fact remains it's still broken.

Imagine another product people expect you to use and when it's faulty you submit a report in a large pool of other reports in hopes that they'll get around to it when it's convenient for them.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the reason why the FOSS people are so pissed off.

Guys, YOU clog the whole internet with pro Linux propaganda. And everyone who doesn't use it is a moron of course.

So, what did you expect? After years and years of pro Linux propaganda (and still less than 1% marketshare) people will get pissed at you.

You can't be a loud mouthed asshole for over a decade AND, at the same time, be upset if the same tactic is used on you.

You reap what you sow.
DEAL WITH IT.

Anonymous said...

You're mom

Anonymous said...

LINUX KICKS ASS
WINDOWS IS FOR FAGS

Anonymous said...

Microsoft is hurting. Laying off people everyday. Who is going to get fired tommorow? Linux Hater maybe? Na his FUD is strong.

oiaohm said...

Compiz will do some long term good. It found the major memory management issue in X11 servers so it was not a complete waste of time.

Anonymous said...

Great that you're back LH. Always have a great time reading about the stupidity of most freetards. Bwe-ha-ha-ha-ha

Anonymous said...

Linux is for idiot basement dwellers with no life who wanks to wobbly windows...Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha

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Anonymous said...

Doesn't look dead to me:

http://tinyurl.com/da7muz

Anonymous said...

Hey Linux Bast...I'm mean Hater..when you finally come down off of your soapbox go ahead and read this from one of the developers of Compiz-Fusion: http://tinyurl.com/c8c6ty

Why the frack did you come back anyways?!
Got bored rebooting your Windoze box?

Anonymous said...

LOL, compiz maybe on the way out, but KDE are carrying the can now ;).

Wobbly Windows, etc is even easier - it just works.

A great move, every Compiz Beryl fan will find a friend in KDE.

Anonymous said...

Lol, Windows has reached the point where you hardly need to reboot it. Try again, and this time use up to date information.

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You you hardly have to reboot Windows, hell I don't even boot it. Linux all the way.

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but it's really easy to configure - look at this simple and intuitive way to disable an option you don't like. Hours of productive fun! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8I9XIykZps&feature=related

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I think the guy's right. Freetards are weirdoes who think they're cool just because they can turn on their laptops, be instantly connected to some stupid wireless network, use a pathetic office suite that uses that absurd open format or whatever it's called, play with that ridiculous Gimp thing, can choose whatever freaking desktop manager they want, can mess about with code (what's THAT!?!?), without worrying about viruses and, top of all that shit, they can move those lame wobbly windows and rotate that idiotic cube or sphere or cylinder, WHATEVER!! If that makes you happy, freetards, go right ahead, while I'll stick with my trusted MS WINDOWS (yesss!) and enjoy the wonders of Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer. Oh, and all those cool games and amazing fonts that only MS WINDOWS has. Die with envy, freetards!

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install ubuntu-restricted-extras: To get Microsoft fonts on Ubuntu

install wine: To run Windows apps natively on Ubuntu

install virtualbox-ose: to run Windows itself within Ubuntu

use grub: and dualboot Linux and Windows and use ntfs-3g: and share files between them

I don't get where you guys get this idea that Linux users automagically are prohibited from dealing with Windows. I don't really Windows all that much, but when I need to use it, it's a icon click away on my desktop (or dualboot on my laptop). It's just that unlike full Windows users, I get the best of both worlds including a high paying job that demands expert knowledge in both platforms.

Anonymous said...

Yay! You're back!

Linux graphics is even sadder than the state of its audio.

fglrx is absolute crap, compiz crashes metacity every 15 minutes killing window borders and everything. Highly unstable useless bling on top of unstable decorators on top of worse-than-garbage drivers -- yeah, just what I need!

Meanwhile even Windows is catching up on the eye candy, and large LCDs are becoming cheap enough that the lack of native multiple desktops (there are many apps to do this) are becoming a non-issue.

Anonymous said...

Wow, LinuxHater... did you get your little weenie stuck in the vacuum cleaner called Windows while trying to make it bigger? Cause that's what your pathetic whining sounds like to me.

Linux isn't perfect. Compiz-whatever isn't perfect. Windows isn't perfect. OS-X isn't perfect.

But if Compiz makes you have such a hard time getting your weenie out of the Windows vacuum, why not do what anyone with better than a 3rd grade education would figure out to do... simply don't use it!

Wow, imagine that. I guess by your response, and those of the wintards who worship you for your embarrassing publicizing of your own stupidity, we can presume that the lot of you need to finish 3rd grade.

Which, come to think of it, seems obvious, given the whining about an operating system they supposedly don't even use. Sounds like the real losers are the ones who don't have anything better to do than bitch about Linux.

LinuxHater, pull your weenie out of the vacuum cleaner called Windows for a minute and try getting a life. If you don't like wobbly windows... don't use 'em. If you don't like Linux... don't use it!

Wow. That was hard to figure out. Maybe I should have said 1st grade instead.

I use Linux every day. I also use Compiz-Fusion, wobbly windows, AND VISTA! And guess what? As someone who uses them both in real life... I would erase Vista in a heartbeat, if I had to choose just one. Mainly because I know what I'm doing, and I have more to my argument than calling someone a "freetard".

At least you Windows weenies made me laugh.

Anonymous said...

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/02/compiz-community-shakeup-could-bring-big-improvements.ars

linux_pwns said...

lol, ur a total n00b. compiz pwns. linux pwns. anyway, if you dont use linux what else is there? win or mac sucks so bad. lolololololololololol uran00blol

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AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

The sound of an exhausted blogger phoning one in.

Compiz, that's the rotating cube thingee right? I was sort of hoping that had just blown over, like the metric system.

blackbelt_jones said...

**US reference

James said...

I used to work on Linux systems and spend weekends hacking libraries and bits of the Linux stack.

Worked on Debian's APT for a while.

Then I got tired of fucking around with all the shit and putting up with the maladjusted geeks who just always had to be right (even when they weren't).

Kicked it in, moved to Java and then C# development for a succession of a number of bigcos.

After work I kick back, chill with a scotch, and light up a cigar, and thank fuck I'm out of that echo chamber.

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Anonymous said...

Compiz is still lame shit as it always used to be back in Vista Beta 2 times.. Not to mention XServer, VGA drivers or entire desktop integration.

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Anonymous said...

Linux needs you, even if you are an idiot.

You are right sometimes.

Anonymous said...

LH,

Then the argument that the kwin developers' choice to add compositing to kwin rather than switch to compiz, i.e. code duplication as some put it, is proven wrong.

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Gill Bates said...

Couldn't care less about compiz actually...
I use XFCE's own composite engine and it actually works, and in a usefull way!

Compiz=Novell=In bed withMicroDick=No wonder it blows!

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