Saturday, August 29, 2009

Suggestions box

I had to start using an Ubuntu box at work again, so I've got some fresh (or refreshed?) hate to unload. Since some of you seem to think I'm doing this to be constructively critical of Linux (you can think whatever the hell you want), I'll write these as if I was dropping notes into a suggestions box:

Please add a --shit-that-fucking-works flag to apt-cache search

How many hours do I have to waste wading through the monument of shit known as the debian package repository? I cringe to think of all the hours wasted arguing about how to correctly package apps and libraries that just don't work to start with. As a user, I don't care that the repository contains fuckteen different twitter clients. Could you just tell me the three that work? Oh wait, actually, this is open source, so could you tell me which one is th only one that kinda works?

Not only are you distracting me with having to try shit that doesn't work, you also are bewildering me with choices, most of which I don't care about, and most of which I have to spend time figuring out that I don't care about.

If you haven't seen this talk on the paradox of choice, go see it.

Everytime I use apt, I think I experience all the negatives that this guy talks about. 10 bazillion packages! Hurray! I don't even feel like trying to find one anymore.

I'm sure somebody is going to point out that on Ubuntu, that's why they separate main and universe and multiverse. Like main is supposed to be the good shit, and the rest of it is, like, whatever. Well you know what? If I stick to just the main repository on Ubuntu, then the whole thing sucks African gorilla cock. So don't go telling me that it's great because there's all these packages but then only 100 of them are actually useful. Because if you compare that set to what's available on a real desktop OS, it's just pathetic.

Please don't switch the Chromium PPA builds to 64bit on Ubuntu AMD64

The Chromium project recently made some noise about going 64 bit. I'm pretty sure that the Chromium PPA folks are going to switch to the x64 build for Ubuntu x64 as soon as they can.

Can I jus remind you that the Flash plugin for 64 bit is still alpha? and still crashes all the fucking time?

The greatest thing about the Chromium PPA is that its 32bit! I can actually use a stable flash build (though there are other issues), and it kinda mostly works. I can't say that for 64bit firefox and 64bit flash.

A lot of people have been using 32bit stuff for a long time. And especially in open source, that's the only way you know that something has a chance in hell of working.

Oh and BTW. Did anyone notice that Snow Leopard implemented browser plugins in separate processes? They pretty much made nspluginwrapper. Except it works, apparently.

So let's take stock. Yes, nspluginwrapper has been around for a long time. It's kind of a good idea and kinda works. Then Apple folks decided to do it, and it was done.

Sadly, so typical. The freetard line about, "oh open source is so flexible, it often implements new things first". Well you know what? When an idea is actually good, commercial companies still seem to be able to better implement these new things in less overall time.

Anyways, I think I've got a few more suggestions, but they'll have to wait.

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Anonymous said...

Nice suggestion you got there Linux Hater.

Anonymous said...

I have tried to install Ubuntu on a 32-bit machine and I had now chance at properly configuring it for sound. Have Skype working? Forget about it! Pulse, ALSA, OSS, none of them seemed to work normally, if not preventing each other from working normally.

Linux sucks, bigtime. Back to Windows, this time for good.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention the fact that under windows the "line in" input is actually called "line in" and under linux it is called "HDA hwplug 0:1 something".

And what about the gnome volume mixer that loses the state of the selected inputs?

Adam King said...

If you are having a hard time finding packages, this might mitigate some of the problems:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Ubuntu-Installer-Coming-Soon-119569.shtml

But I'll add the: WeAreWorkingOnIt(tm) to this post or whatever.

Regarding the second thing, I'm using 64-bit Firefox with 64-bit Flash. WorksForMe(tm)

I look forward to more suggestions/hates. I know you are capable of really good and eloquent shit, that's why your blog is still so popular.

Anonymous said...

"If I stick to just the main repository on Ubuntu, then the whole thing sucks African gorilla cock."

OMG THAT'S RACIST

Anonymous said...

Hmm, when I hear African gorilla, I;m thinking African Gorilla. You thinking of something else perhaps? mandingo? >:P

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu, yey! Putting all those Twitter clients in there is to help the user choose the right one. You feel helped already?

Typical Ubuntu shithead devs. Instead of fixing the fucking bugs they introduce themselves by patching the shit out of everything they come across, they go offer gazillions of software clones that all (try to) do the same thing.

I JUST NEED ONE FREAKING CLIENT THAT WORKS. And DON'T TOUCH it. Don't patch it, don't fix it, don't anything; that may it MIGHT have a chance to at least work as expected.

Anonymous said...

I think the issue is that it's discriminatory against French Gorillas.

Iain Cheyne said...

I thought you hated Twitter?

LinuxLover said...

Why cant you guys understand that all users aren't the same? Some want the command line, some want the ncurses GUI, some want gnome, some want kde, etc. So they make their own version of the program customized just how they want it. That is the beauty of open source: you can have whatever you want.

Anonymous said...

"Why cant you guys understand that all users aren't the same?"

And your point would be fair if it weren't for raving freetards everywhere demanding the destruction of "M$", claiming broken software is superior to commercial counterparts, and spreading absolute lies about other operating systems.

Anonymous said...

^ But most people wants things that work.

Anonymous said...

^ But most people wants things that work.

Then why do they use Windows? Windows doesn't work.

Most people like to be told what they like.

LinuxLover said...

Exactly. Microsoft and the evil man Bill G tell people what they like. Free software lets people choose.

Anonymous said...

And like many former Linux users, I *chose* to move away from Linux and use my computer to its full capabilities with real software.

Anonymous said...

I like what they told, not because they told, but because he told what she told, and I like what you like.

Clear enough?

Anonymous said...

In Linux if you want to save power you have to tweak and recompile everything just to make sure it constantly runs using 1% of the resources. But it's a steady 1%.

In other sane operating systems you don't have to tweak or recompile anything, you just have to use whatever application you want, and when you stop using it the system automatically tries to put the CPU and other peripherials to the most power-saving state. This way you can complete tasks faster AND save energy, thus saving money and time and being even more productive and "green".

Damn, even my 4 years old cellphone has some kind of power-saving featuresto prolong battery life, why can't Linux get some decent power-saving support? Yes, hibernate and sleep (even hybrid sleep introduced in Vista/7) are power saving functions. I don't need to cold boot my system every time I need it, and I get everything up and running in less time and consuming less power to load everything. Having more RAM helps too. The less I need to access hard drives to read/write data, the less power is drawn. It would be nice if with 1MB of RAM you could keep tons of data and code, but really, you can't. Now RAM is really cheap, and certainly investing in more RAM is cheaper than the energy wasted to access your hard drive more times, and it also prolongs the HDD's life by using it only when necessary, so you can save some money and you don't have to cope with hard drive failures or disperately making backups before you loose important sectors.

Anonymous said...

No! You don't put useless data into the RAM, ever. It's blasphemy. The RAM is like a temple, and no matter how big that temple is, you don't just store random junk in it. You interact with your RAM in deep humility, praising it's existance everytime you store a handpicked bit into it's glory.

Anonymous said...

The computer is not supposed to be used to its fullest. Your goal as a user is to tweak everything to minimize the computer's effort. You should be spending at least 3 hours every day doing this to make sure the computer is comfortable.

Your quad core should only be using one core at all times. Your 4GB ram should not be occupied by anything that takes up more than 256k.

Turn off everything that makes using a computer a pleasant experience, and by no means use software with features designed to make working easier -- that stuff is called bloat (and you're not really learning how to REALLY use a computer anyway).

Remember to leave some type of monitor on at all times, or failing that, run top in a terminal. Make sure to take a screenshot and share it somewhere, to let everyone know you're not overworking your computer.

Anonymous said...

Why does Windows 7 boot so fast? Ubuntu boots really slow and I think Windows 7 should boot slower like Ubuntu. Fast booting is not good for the computer.

Adam Queef said...

If you are having a hard time finding packages, this might mitigate some of the problems:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Ubuntu-Installer-Coming-Soon-119569.shtml


Nice, youve graduated from not actually reading the articles you link to, not that, plus, not actually bothering to read the post you respond to! The slashtardation in you is strong, young padwan.

The ubuntu installer you linked to is for installing ubuntu, essentially the piece de resistance is that it mimics the seven year old WinXP installer slideshow, brilliant!

It does absolutely nothing to address the issues mentioned by LH (denoting which packages actually work, for one), it only serves to annoy people during system installation.

WeAreWorkingOnIT(TM)?

not quite, more like YouDontNeedThatTakeThisInstead(TM).Or UsefulShitIsBoring(tm).

Anonymous said...

"Then why do they use Windows? Windows doesn't work."

Coulda fooled me, jackass :P

Otherwise

LH addresses a valid point, and we've ALL been there. Fine, you do a little search in synaptic for something and you get a dozen apps or so. There's nothing in there that tells you if they work, or have passed some QA, or whatever. You get a terse description and a build number (usually with "beta" on the end).

If they wanted to truly do something for the users they would either A: introduce some sort of rating system in the package manager (which would take a lot of effort because now someone has to be responsible for evaluating and rating the quality of all of the shit they throw together and call an OS), or B: stop tossing piles of crap-apps into the repos just so they can brag about the 19,000-applications-available-at-the-click-of-a-button!(tm)

I've said it before. The Linux ecosystem is to good software what a buffet is to fine dining. Lots of choice, and a lot of it is mediocre at best.

Anonymous said...

Zealot Adam probably meant this:

Ubuntu SoftwareStore

Anonymous said...

Interesting that you mention 32 bit Flash and nspluginwrapper since I'm on Kubuntu Jaunty and 32 bit flash with Firefox is crash-fucking-tastic!

Not only does it crash when I'm trying to 'seek' in a video it also random crashes when videos load, unload, end, or switch (frex when you shift to or from a commercial on Hulu or when a Youtube video gets to the end and resets).

When this sort of crash happens (and it happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME) 'Buntu doesn't delete the goddamned flv file that it's been oh-so-helpfully cashing in /tmp ...thus if you're running on an older system with limited space and don't notice that random bit of trivia you can build up quite a load of half cashed video files that will eat up your disk space until such time as you reboot the system or go in and manually delete them.

This happens so often that I've made an alias for bash 'killflv' to 'rm /tmp/Flash*' while I'm waiting for Firefox to reload (which takes for fucking EVER).

Then there's nspluginwrapper which, for some unknown reason, feels the need to crank up to 20% of my CPU even after the video is done playing; even after I've pressed 'stop'; even after I've closed the fucking tab it was stopped in; even after I've shut down FF; right up until I bitch-slap it with a quick 'killall nspluginwrapper' on the command line ... what the bloody fuck is up with that??

But I'll keep using Linux ... I like the pain ... it's cheaper than paying the local dominatrix for the abuse I so clearly deserve : P

Anonymous said...

Thomas B Update!

After a few whiny posts @ Piestar.net yesterday, Thomas B posted a "last post" link and said "goodbye". I clicked on the link, and of course he'd already deleted it!

Now where will I be able to learn about "OpenSolaris Linux"?

Anonymous said...

New Ubuntu Karmic Koala Screenshot

Looking really good & polished!

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Anonymous said...

http://windows7sins.org/

Windows 7 sucks.

Anonymous said...

This is disturbing:

Open Source Story Book

Vincent said...

You're just a ripoff. The original linux hater was much funnier.

Anonymous said...

On his "blog", Adam King said the following:

"Please stop BSing. Software engineers at Microsoft make anywhere from $56k to $140k. http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Microsoft-Salaries-E1651.htm

The average salary according to some websites for a Linux kernel developer is $116k. http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Linux-Kernel-Developer-l-Menlo-Park,-CA.html

Nice try."



Your "information" is flawed.
The kernel developers you are referring to are people like Greg Kroah-Hartman, who is employed by Novell.

Novell pays him well because it is to their benefit to improve the kernel and sell their proprietary offerings.

You will only find (literally) a couple examples of people with his type of job/pay.

You are taking maybe 4 people who make that kind of salary, then proclaiming it the average, while trying to compare it to Microsoft, who can pay numerous people that type of salary.

Anonymous said...

Well, at least Adam King doesn't delete comments reflecting opposing views, like that other freetard. I give him credit for that.

But that's all.

Custom Distros said...

If you've got more suggestions don't wait two freakin' months before the next one rolls out, k?

Anonymous said...

The RAM is like a temple, and no matter how big that temple is, you don't just store random junk in it.

You jest, but there really is this mentality held over from the 70s that RAM is somehow precious and must be conserved, and it pervaded the entire industry. For example, even as recently as five years ago we were seeing computers sold with 256MB RAM (e.g. Apples) even though 1 GB was really the logical minimum, and the price premium was negligible (like +$30 for 3x the perceived performance). Now finding a computer with less than 2 GB RAM is difficult, and 4 GB will probably be the industry standard in the next quarter or two. Finally the industry-wide habit of under-specifying RAM is dead, yet 70s-thinking Linux advocates want to drag us back into thinking we need to fit code segments into 64K blocks and that operating systems using extra resources to boost perceived performance is somehow shameful.

But they turn a blind eye to Firefox, which probably wins the award of most embarrassing use of memory from the past half decade.

Anonymous said...

@August 29, 2009 4:14 PM

Good memories. Glad to know these issues are still alive and well five years after I booted Linux as my daily system.

Anonymous said...

Re: Open Source Story Book

It's totally awesome that history has been rewritten to cast Microsoft as the principal villain in the proprietary software realm when, in reality, few knew who they were while RMS was cooking his shit up and those few who were aware of Microsoft did not take them seriously.

Every piece of literature and interview surrounding RMS clearly indicates that his targets were the proprietary AT&T UNIX, the "not free enough" BSD, and universities with computing policies he felt were abusive. Microsoft wasn't even a bit player in his scheme, nor was personal computing in general.

Proprietary software existed decades before Microsoft's founding. It's ludicrous to suggest that Microsoft somehow "invented" the concept of withholding source code, but, hey, here we are.

Anonymous said...

Because, Microsoft (oops, Micro$oft) is teh ebil.

Anonymous said...

http://windows7sins.org/

is really cheap to get a web page nowadays....

http://fucklinux.com/

yep... it's really cheap...

Anonymous said...

Debian has/had something that attempted to alleviate the question of "What's the good software?" called "Popularity Contest". The problem with said software was the usual: it had no direction and was half-assed. It works by surveying the system then sending the list of installed programs to Debian. Supposedly they use the data to decide what should be included on the smaller installation sets.

The flaw with this methodology in terms of finding better software is that it is too general. The program can only tell you which applications are popular in one giant flat list that locks up Firefox for a good two minutes when loading. Yeah, I know, right? Furthermore, there's a lot of junk mixed in like libraries, pseudo-packages, and transition stuff.

So, if you wanted to know which bittorrent client to install, you'd first need to know the names of all the players then Ctrl-F them in Popularity Contest's megalist. This is somewhat doable if you're just looking for one app, but the nights will drag on as you spend endless hours researching just the names of candidate software, let alone the viability of said candidates. Compound this with Popularity Contest's small sample size due to the average Linux user's rampant paranoia and it's a recipe for fail.

Anyone still interested, check out the horror show that is Popularity Contest:

http://popcon.debian.org/

Would you guess in a million years that this project portends to tell you what software is worth trying?

Anonymous said...

But I'll keep using Linux ... I like the pain ... it's cheaper than paying the local dominatrix for the abuse I so clearly deserve : P


pure gold!

Anonymous said...

What, no Spandau Ballet?

Anonymous said...

The buttons on my laptop touchpad are real loud when I press them. You guys always have some solution to everything. Any tips?

Anonymous said...

Listen to really loud music.

Anonymous said...

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2390/photoshop25.png

So true.

Anonymous said...

@ August 29, 2009 9:42 PM

No, that wasn't me. I'm the guy with the Gold meme, I'm now trying out a new one, I must say!

Anonymous said...

Re: Photoshop 2.5 is better than GIMP

I guess it's because it's been so long since I used such an old version, but, man, GIMP blatantly ripped off that tool selection, right down to the button bitmaps.

Photoshop 2.5

Gimp 1.0.4

As a bonus, read the Gimp button labels carefully. Hint: look toward the bottom.

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ. After 4000 comments this blog is still alive?

Here's a link to my shitty web site (just like linux) that you can post garbage on:
http://www.network54.com/Index/100304






.

Anonymous said...

"GIMP blatantly ripped off that tool selection, right down to the button bitmaps"

Yep. Another shitty clone of an outdated app. It's clear they were trying to copy it, but besides the looks of the tool palette, everything is much better in PS 2.5 and it still has a LOT of big advantages like Lab color, proper CMYK, Pantone color matching and so on.

Now, fast forward to 12 years ago. The year is 1996, Photoshop v4 is released. That's still a million times better than the GIMP is today. It introduced many essential features like adjustment layers which the GIMP not only doesn't have but that aren't even planned. The interface is also a LOT better.

The GIMP can't even compete with 12+ year old versions of Photoshop.

Anonymous said...

Funny how that reminds me of Linux. It's almost as good today as Win95 was back then but not quite. It's only a few more years out.

Year of the Linux desktop!

Anonymous said...

@August 29, 2009 10:24 PM:Touchpad

I use "tapping" to click instead of the buttons, and if you have a synaptics touchpad, try some of the latest drivers out (you can try one for a different make of computer like acer) let you designate one corner of the touchpad as "right click", and it has swirl scroll.

This assumes you're using Windows and not a knockoff operating system.

Anonymous said...

Then why do they use Windows? Windows doesn't work.

Most people like to be told what they like.


Because within the scope of what most users want to do, it does work.

Anonymous said...

@ August 29, 2009 1:45 PM

"Then why do they use Windows? Windows doesn't work."

That is utterly fucking ridiculous. What can Linux purport to do that Windows can't? How does Windows not work?

Unlike Linux, Windows has:

Working sound
Working video (no tearing)
Working window compositing, which doesn't require being shut off to run apps.
Apps (as in, it has them while Linux doesn't)

Anonymous said...

"No, that wasn't me. I'm the guy with the Gold meme, I'm now trying out a new one"

hey, sorry, but it was needed :P

mmm

keep the gold meme, its cool ;)

Anonymous said...

WRT to the dreaded video tearing, there's this nice thread over at nV News Forums. Stephen Warren from Nvidia notes:

[...] There's nothing that can be done about tearing when compiz is active, due to the way the X composite extension is designed. Fixing this would require redesigning/enhancing the X composite protocol.

ShowMeYourCubeBaby!(TM)
WobblyWindowsFTW!(TM)

Anonymous said...

Look at this comment from some dumbass zealot at the download page for the Facebook Development Kit on Codeplex:


"Under strange license?? I don't like this... Where is GPL?"
by tuxun on Apr 19 at 12:05 AM

Anonymous said...

@ August 30, 2009 1:54 AM

Hahahaha, use it all you want, maybe it'll catch on!

: ^ )

Anonymous said...

OMG, take a look at this crappy freetard site: http://windows7sins.org
That's the most stupid piece of hate propaganda since Saddam was executed.

Anonymous said...

It's funny how the FSF criticizes Windows 7 for being involved with Trusted Computing, when according to the Wikipedia entry:

The Linux kernel has included trusted computing support since version 2.6.13, and there are several projects to implement trusted computing for Linux. In January 2005, members of Gentoo Linux's "crypto herd" announced their intention of providing support for TC—in particular support for the Trusted Platform Module.[29] There is also a TCG-compliant software stack for Linux named TrouSerS, released under an open source license.

Anonymous said...

Funny Flash 64 bit is rock solid if you are running the adobe one. Wait you would be using the default open source one. nspluginwrapper is waste of time and effort these days.

Please go look at webkit source code. Shock horror that independent plugin in independent process is open source that Apple is using. There are a few edge webbrowers for Linux that use it.

Just firefox has not go around to do it yet.

Sorry this article simple was crap and incorrect. Linux Hater is out of good material. Producing nothing better than items people complain about windows. Yes people complain about not being able to find the apps they want all the time with windows.

Anonymous said...

Strange how fucklinux.com has been used to protect the holyness of this pile of crap, while those other domains are for sale to anyone.

Also note the double dot in the html extension of the page. No, it's not my mistake, that's the real website address. Oh, and how can't you note the "Micrososft_Eradication_Society" in the url?

Also I've found this.

Anonymous said...

@ August 30, 2009 4:17 AM

"Yes people complain about not being able to find the apps they want all the time with windows."

I think you meant to say you freetards complain about not being able to find the apps you want FOR FREE in Windows, as you have an aversion to paying for anything.

Anonymous said...

Strange how they always complain they can't find free apps for Windows, not just because there are tons of websites (even famous) where you can find freeware and shareware dating bck to the '90s, but also because freetards always find things on their beloved bittorrent. How can't they find a fucking illegal copy of anything on bittorrent but they can pipe the HDD output to the sound output is beyond me.

Fucking cheap retards.

Anonymous said...

http://windows7sins.org/

Windows 7 sucks.



Haven't you got the memo, that this piece of propaganda has been debunked more than once?

Here's a good debunk:

http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,2026.0.html

Anonymous said...

Yes people complain about not being able to find the apps they want all the time with windows

Which reminds me: try to find an app back on your machine in an OS where everything starts with a "K".

The repositories for free/share/payware windows software are ginormous. Since my install of Win7 I started hunting for "portable" apps which you don't need to install. Guess what: plenty of them, even for such a restriction.

LinuxHate said...

Did anyone see the 1337 blog? He's still afraid of girls, and he's excited about gaming in Linux. Including Tremulous and second life... talk about being behind the times. Aside from the fact that Second life is crap. And he's wasting the prime years of his life dicking around with Linux instead of chasing girls.

http://mpscripts.omegasubs.com/blog/

Check out my shitty page:
http://www.network54.com/Index/100304

Adam King said...

Windows 7 is a terrible operating system.

Click here for why

Anonymous said...

linux supporters can't read or what?

Haven't you noticed, that just three comments back some one posted a link to a site where that campaign is debunked?

Anonymous said...

Adam King is just a troll who can't even Google properly.

Anonymous said...

Well, he showed some effort with his "How to write a proprietary Windows software application" post on his blog.


It's better than his usual crap.

Anonymous said...

"linux supporters can't read or what?"

You expected him to know how to read? And then posting on-topic/related answers (unlike a new installer for repos clutter)? And to notice the link he posted was already posted 4x before in this page? And to notice the obvious debunking?

High expectations much? There's only so much he can do with his 2 freetarded brain cells.

Anonymous said...

"So, I called Finally Fast last night, a company with software that apparently makes your internet faster. The support rep’s name was Andy. I asked him “So, I did a bit of research, and I’m curious how a program can make your internet faster.” He said he was going to forward me to his supervisor. A minute later, I got his supervisor and I asked the same question. The guy then told me “Why are you fucking calling you fucking piece of shit?” I immediately hung up.

I called back about 10 minutes later and I got the same guy. I told him that I was cussed out by his supervisor and he said “Oh, do you want me to come give you a hug.” I was like wtf. I said “Excuse me.” Then guy said “Sir, you sound deeply traumatized by all of this. Do you want me to come give you a hug. Or since we can track your phone number, I could come to your house and punch you in the face a couple times.” I was immediately freaked out and pissed off. I said I was reporting Finally Fast to the Better Business Bureau, then I hung up.

I did report them. I also emailed Microsoft because the Finally Fast website says “Microsoft Certified Partner.” This whole event really freaked me out."

-ThomasB's latest wutttt

Anonymous said...

ThomasB doesn't know that FinallyFast is basically a scam site?

Anonymous said...

Thomas B is so l337 that he infected his machine with malware and warez, requiring him to call FinallyFast.com!

Anonymous said...

Wooha. Page 3 of that debunking thread:

Stallman is a total loon

Read that page from start to finish. RMS is mental.

LinuxLuv said...

I've no sympathy for someone who uses the command line - LH you should know better. Install apps the 'Ubuntu' way (Add/remove applications) and there's a star rating for each one. Nice. Means you only have to try half as many before discovering they're all sh1t.

Anonymous said...

Adam King and Thomas B have formed a Mutual Admiration Society at Adam King's loony blog.

Anonymous said...

Thomas B (at Adam King's "blog")said...
"Thank you, it's good to know there are other people out there fighting Linux Hater."
August 30, 2009 2:11 PM


Who is Thomas B "fighting"? Whenever someone leaves him a comment he has a tantrum and deletes them all! Then he takes his ball and goes home by disabling comments.

Anonymous said...

"Stallman is a total loon"

And the sky is blue. Who doesn't already know this?

Adam "Pussy Ass Bitch" King and Thomas "OpenSolaris Linux" B are fighting against sanity and quality software. Perhaps they can share a room in some mental institution?

Anonymous said...

Good idea. Then they can both take turns pretending to be RMS and doing to each other what Linux users do best (never having touched a girl)

Anonymous said...

I'm leaving comments for Thomas B at Adam King's "blog". Let's see if we can get to 100!

Anonymous said...

Look at the order of Thomas B's interests:

Videogames Computers Girls

http://www.blogger.com/profile/07765501649782126315

Anonymous said...

Thomas B's Blogger Profile

OpenSolaris Linux!

Anonymous said...

This pic sums up Linux in general.

Anonymous said...

"Videogames Computers Girls"

Videogames is his #1 thing? Yet, he doesn't use a console 360/PS3/Wii, prev-gen console (Xbox, PS2), not a portable console (DS, PSP), not a PC running Windows. No, all these options have too many good offerings. Instead, he picks something that's 20+ years behind in quality and 30+ years behind in quantity. A handful of shitty games on hardware that barely works. Wow.

Computer is his #2 thing? Fine. Too bad he doesn't use either Windows or OS X (both platforms that actually work and have quality software). No, instead he picks something that's 20 years behind and sucks hard as usual.

Girls is his #3 thing? If it's anything like the previous 2 interest he has, I'm thinking what he's really into is transgender furry midgets.

Anonymous said...

No worries. He'll stay a virgin all of his life like his idol RMS.

And then he'll try to rationalize it by saying having written some obscure app no one uses or wants of is better than having a normal productive life and a family.

Anonymous said...

RMS said: "I don't plan to reproduce myself"

Translation:

No woman wants of:
-a pathetic loser
-fat slob who doesn't shower
-looks worse than the nerds in revenge of the nerds
-eats stuff from his toes
-never has had a real job
-opposes having kids
-pro FUDster and propaganda activist who lists writing closed-source software as akin to murder and rape and tries to redefine freedom in utterly stupid ways
-used to live in his office
-is against web pages and cell phones
-doesn't celebrate "normal" holidays like Christmas
...

In related news, most Linux users are also virgins.

Anonymous said...

doesn't celebrate "normal" holidays like Christmas

I wouldn't expect him to even if he were normal due to his Jewish heritage.

Anonymous said...

At least Bill Gates is a rich nerd. A fat, POOR nerd? Whaaat?

Btw Linus Torvalds is worth millions. Do freetards even know that?

Anonymous said...

@August 29, 2009 2:59 PM

You got that right. Ram and CPU power is a precious precious resource. For example, 4 gig ram is an "expensive" 50 bucks. Linux is the new green.

You see if everyone used Linux, we wouldn't be video editing, playing blu ray, playing top quality 3d games, or other fun stuff. We'd simple be using Latex to type up notes. With enough Linux Desktop exposure, this would force everyone to do something else for fun, like self masturbation, since Linux Desktop offers no other "real" pleasure. With enough people masturbating, this causes
decrease in computers being turned on. In time, we go back to abacus and the ozone will fix itself.

Save the planet, use Linux Desktop and masturbate!

Anonymous said...

I thought "Main" was just the shit that was supported whereas everything else is unsupported shit.

Anonymous said...

New nonsense from sjvn : http://blogs.computerworld.com/14629/the_easiest_operating_system_to_update_is

captcha: crintrol, freetard version of control

Anonymous said...

Snippets from the SJVN article about easiest OS to update, emphasis mine:

"Snow Panther, on my Mac mini, took just over an hour to install and about 45-minutes on my MacBook Pro."

"Linux, it must be said, took less time to install than Mac OS X. But, really, there was no practical difference between Snow Panther and Ubuntu 9.04 in their ease of installation."

Snow Panther? Is that like OpenSolaris Linux?

Anonymous said...

Heh. Installation times and boot times look like the two chief obsessions of lusers.

If an OS install lasts me 4+ years (like my last one), then who gives a fuck if it can be done in 1 hour or 1.5 hours?

And then there's updating. Always a big laugh with the lusers when it comes to updating "winblowz" installs. I guess none of them have heard of offline/network/administrative installers where you can download the big service packs once and store them wherever.

Anonymous said...

SJVN is to journalism what RMS is to hygiene.

With Windows XP, I found, as I expected, that there is no easy way to upgrade


For Linux, I upgraded from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04. In stark contrast, Ubuntu was easy to upgrade. There's simply no comparison.



Every sane people wouldn't compare an upgrade from a 2001 OS with an upgrade from a 2008 OS.

BTW, the transistion from Vista to 7 is easy (even sjvn admits it), and Vista is from 2006 or late 2005 I don't remeber...

And Windows 7 is just much much much than an upgrade to XP than Ubuntu 8.10 -> 9.04. I mean, they totally reworked the UI, and that's just the surface. Ubuntu? New shitbrown wallpaper.

Oh, and another thing, the vast majority of Windows users upgrade it's operating system with a new computer. And the more tecnhical users know how to backup data and reinstall applications, total time on afternoon, the same time it takes to fix a minor thing in linux. The only difference is that with Linux this happens everytime.

Anonymous said...

We need a new TM!

EasierToUpgrade(TM)!

Anonymous said...

Someone on SJVN commented on trying to upgrade from a 3yr old LTS Ubuntu OS.

"For completeness, why don't you upgrade an LTS version after a 3 year time period and edit your blog with the results?"

http://blogs.computerworld.com/14629/the_easiest_operating_system_to_update_is

Anonymous said...

Outside of scattered Mac users, I don't know anyone who "upgrades" their OS. Interested parties use a new OS release as an excuse to buy a new system. Even system builders tend to just buy a new drive for the new OS and copy the important stuff from the old drive later. 1.5 TB barely exceeds $100. That's totally insane. Or just go all out and make the jump to SSD and really take performance to a new level.

Anonymous said...

Ahh enough for now, I'm watching some underground FLASH vids with no tearing and no choppiness under Vista WITH 3D aero effects on.

Ahh, life is good.

Anonymous said...

Me to, except I still have half my RAM.

Ahh, Linux kicks ass.

Anonymous Insider said...

SJVN has been writing stuff about Mac OS X lately.

It seems as the Linux cocksucker has seen the writing on the wall:

OS Market Share

Anonymous said...

Here is a comment I left on SJVN's "article":

SJVN,

Why are you expecting to be able to update a 9 year old OS? Can you update a 9 year old Mac OS to Snow Leopard? Can you update a 9 year old Linux distro?

Typical anti-Microsoft FUD.

LinuxHate said...

Does anyone else love how Linux and mac users sit and masturbate over how great their file systems are for not fragmenting, claiming they are designed to not fragment, even though they do (as any file system will after time), and OS X at least does do background defragging (plus Macs don't have an HDD light, so you can't tell when it's trashing your disks). Instead they compare it to ancient Windows file systems(FAT/32), when NTFS is less resistant to fragmentation, and Windows XP to a limited extent, and Vista and newer to a full extent do background defragmenting. But no one ever gives any actual evidence comparing Linux file system fragmentation levels. Yet ext4 comes with defragmentation tools.

@August 30, 2009 9:14 PM:
With Windows XP, I found, as I expected, that there is no easy way to upgrade

For Linux, I upgraded from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04. In stark contrast, Ubuntu was easy to upgrade. There's simply no comparison


Indeed. Upgrading a 2001 operating system to a 2009 operating system harder than upgrading a 2008-Q4 OS to a 2009-Q2 operating system. Yet Vista to Seven (Q1 2007-Q4 2009) works fine.

I have a 7.10 Ubuntu (Q4-2007). Utterly hopeless to upgrade. Too many steps involved. And with Linux’s bailing wire and duct tape config files, too much of a chance of something breaking. Especially if you previously dug into them to fix it.

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu couldn't even update properly from 8.10 to 9.04!

*prepares to be deluged by WorksForMe(TM)*

Anonymous Insider said...

Ultimately, market share is what matters.

Mac v Windows hate is a classic thing.

Life would be too boring for Mac haters and Windows haters if they didn't have each other to insult.

Linux users are a bit different, something like the dump you flush everyday.

Thank God this dump has only 1% market share.

Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me what purpose the argc and *argv[] (**argv[]?)

serve in the main function in C++?

I've looked all over Google, of course, and can't seem to find a concise explanation.

It looks to me like the *argv[] portion is stating that you can take a pointer array, but I don't understand why these argument placeholders are there.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous Insider

Can you imagine the noise we'd hear if the Zealots ever achieved real market share!?

By the way, you appear to have a ton of info on your sites, I'm subscribing now.

Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me what purpose the argc and *argv[] (**argv[]?)


Type "command line arguments" in google

Anonymous said...

@ August 30, 2009 11:51 PM

Thank you.

Nik said...

Actually, Windows Explorer runs plugins in separate process starting back 10 years in time - DLLSurrogate.

Anonymous said...

Also it's *argv[] or **argv. The second form is without square brackets.

If you're interested you can use command line parameters in Windows even without console based programs, so you can actually pass parameters to GUIs. I did this in C# with pure .Net, so it's definitely doable in any other language.

Anonymous said...

I'd hate to sound like I'm either joking or extremely upset and punching my monitor here ... but if you don't like Linux, don't use it. Find something else to do with your time.

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 1:46 AM

Everyone here has stopped using Linux, after we realized what a colossal waste of time it is.

What we rail against is all the rampant Linux Zealotry that we have to read everywhere we turn, every tech blog, article, etc is replete with nonsensical claims about the "superiority" of Linux.

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Earthling said...

This blog looks like a magnet for WinTrolls and those still gainfully employed in tech (a dwindling audience).
My position is "all software is fail".
And you pick on Ubuntu, the most retarded of all Linux distributions, easy target, huh?

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Anonymous said...

Tech question on mozilla-google.

I recently dicked around with jQuery and dynamic loading (getScript). In Firefox' firebug it's pretty easy to see the traffic and the data that is sent and received (console mode), but...

when you load a google api like maps with:
$.getScript("http://www.google.com/jsapi?async=2&callback=loadgeo&key=_key_");

(which is the only technique I found to work) nothing shows up in firefox. All other async loads I do nicely show the call and the js that is loaded and the parameters sent.

Better still, none of the interaction between the google maps js and their server shows up unless you open a packet sniffer. For homebrew json this always shows up.

The reason I want to find out is to get an idea of the data sent to their server when using their api in a webapp.

Am I missing something or does the mozilla-google deal involve traffic obfuscation in javascript ?!?

Anonymous said...

Arch still fails when installing in VirtualBox (latest release) on this machine. Is it me, it's an Arch's problem, it's VirtualBox' fault? I don't know, it just wont connect to the internet to download the packets.

Also their website is down, and has an incredibly retarded picture on it.

WTF?!

Anonymous said...

Google always told us poor GMail users that Firebug ws slowing down everything and to turn it off. I never saw any difference with it being on or off while using any Google app or service. And now this.

Are they trying to stop people from knowing what kind of data is really sent to the servers? Conspiracy(TM)!

Anonymous said...

"Me to, except I still have half my RAM."

It must suck having half your RAM consumed when watching mere flash videos.

The funny bit about file-systems is that it is virtually impossible to design a file-system that doesn't fragment. You don't even have to know much about storage mechanisms to see why.

Anonymous said...

Are they trying to stop people from knowing what kind of data is really sent to the servers? Conspiracy(TM)!

Well, I'm not yelling "conspiracy" just yet, just trying to figure out what's happening and why. If I'm not seeing the traffic between the client & goog server I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong.

Anonymous said...

You'll need a storage system where fragmentation doesn't degrade performance, where there's no performance difference in accessing data depending on it's physical address. On mechanical hard drives there's a lot of difference in performance depending on where data is stored on the platters. Even with a perfectly defragmented system you still have performance hits as the data get's near the center of the platter, as the faster sectors are always outside. In fact, with SDDs you don't have to defrag. Never. You don't need to move data around, you have no difference in performance depending where data is stored, and the same is for other solid-state storage types.

For this kind of storages, defragmentation processes can even be harmful. If someone is really so much concerned about data fragmentation, maybe an SDD is the real solution for it's problems. Like the anon said, there's no Holy Graal to stop fragmentation on anything, but you can get technologies witch performance is not affected by fragmentation at all (such as SDDs).

How's the Linux support for SDDs? Does they get destroyed like with HDDs?

(Captcha: cookies. Have some!)

Anonymous said...

@August 31, 2009 5:20 AM

I wasn't mocking you anyway. It's an interesting fact, and I always wondered too why not every single bit of data was reported to me with Google services and apps. Now we can reverse the conspiracy theories against freetards and their beloved Google.

Anonymous said...

The funniest thing about the "Linux never fragments" myth is the real world implications of holding steadfast to this fantasy, like killing the viability of MythTV. Getting the drive filled 95% or more with any data is a sure way to take a dump on performance, and unless you're willing to either erase everything (scaling back to 75-80 percent isn't enough) or do the buy-a-new-drive-and-copy-everything-over thing, you're probably forever screwed. SSD is an ironic technology for Linux for they're about to be rewarded for procrastinating on the defrag issue.

Earthling said...

Does repeated use of the word "freetard" magically raise one's IQ?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Anonymous said...

Just as often as chanting "M$" or "Winchot" or "MicroShit" or making chair jokes daily.

Anonymous said...

I've seen Freetards use:

M$
M$FT
Microshaft
Micro$haft
Micro$oft
Microscum
Visduh
Winblows
Windoze

Anonymous said...

Don't forget Winchot.

Anonymous said...

I used to read this to blog when i was a Windows user, and laughed a lot.. now i'm moving to Linux for a few simple reasons and i laugh.. but don't trust these posts..

1) you can script *easily* everything you don't want to do *manually* every time
2) if you broke something you can *easily* reinstall all your things for free
3) you can learn how things works for *real* IF YOU WANT TO
4) it's free and you don't need to browse 1000 pages of google to find a tool to download, with all related risks like malware and such..

I'm a developer and yes, i'm not a simple "user"..
But i bet that any noob can use an Ubuntu for basic things without ANY issue.

VLC + RhytmBox + Transmission + aMule + Gimp
(just common apps)

I used these aps a lot and without any issue..

I'm just not used to handle permissions in that strict way.. but for a simple user it's not a problem..

So, tell me where i'm wrong please!
(keep in mind that i'm using only ubuntu 9.04, i know that it's a noob-distro - i'm a linux noob -)

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 7:25 AM

"I'm a developer and yes, i'm not a simple "user".."

That translates as "I write PHP".

Anonymous said...

I write C#, Java AND PHP from 3 weeks

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 7:30 AM

"I write C#, Java AND PHP from 3 weeks"


Ahahahahahaha! You're a "developer" after 3 weeks? And you're now a C# and Java expert in that time?

Anonymous said...

I think you're lost, you want T3h L337 Blog, it's that way

------------------------------->

Anonymous said...

I learned a bit of PHP in 3 weeks..
I know it's hard to understand..

Sorry :-)

Anonymous said...

I don't hate Linux, because I don't use it, but I hate freetards because I use the internet and they are FUCKING everywhere, spreading FUD, lies, whining, trying to be smart asses, not having a clue wtf they are talking about ...

GO HOME Bithes, and shut the fuck up!

Anonymous said...

From : Anon (August 31, 2009 7:25 AM)

"I used to read this to blog when i was a Windows user, and laughed a lot.. now i'm moving to Linux for a few simple reasons and i laugh.. but don't trust these posts..
"
and

"Ahahahahahaha! You're a "developer" after 3 weeks? And you're now a C# and Java expert in that time?"

I didn't think you got the "Punchline" that time pal. And to think you've always read Post here at LH. I think you should freshen up a bit and go a few posts back when Adam Queef started posting up his BS here trying to spawn traffic from his Terrific 1337 site.

..... and I laugh ^_^

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 7:55 AM

What's hard to understand is your syntax. You may want to add English to your repertoire.

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 7:56 AM

Exactly! If these Zealots didn't show up everywhere there wouldn't be a problem.

Do you freetards notice, we aren't complaining about Solaris or BSD on here, because their communities aren't comprised of foaming-at-the-mouth imbeciles like Linux.

Anonymous said...

I used to read this to blog when i was a Windows user, and laughed a lot.. now i'm moving to Linux

Yeah right, and I was born yesterday.

you can script *easily* everything you don't want to do *manually* every time

You can do this in Windows, too, using every resource available in Linux plus cmd.exe, cscript, PowerShell, and the .NET framework. Additionally, there's a lot less to automate since Windows does a lot of the mind-numbing shit for you.

if you broke something you can *easily* reinstall all your things for free

I can do this in Windows, too, but I don't need to because it's a lot harder to break. Seriously, what the hell are you doing that renders Windows unusable?

you can learn how things works for *real* IF YOU WANT TO

Sure, by picking up a computer architecture book. What, you think dicking around with apt-get actually teaches you something beyond how to use apt-get?

it's free and you don't need to browse 1000 pages of google to find a tool to download

Actually I do because I can rarely find working software in Linux, and when asking for options, the standard response is, "Try all 1,000. One of them has got to work!" But that's not true; what I have are 1,000 half-assed programs that do approximately the same thing but suck in subtly different ways.

But i bet that any noob can use an Ubuntu for basic things without ANY issue.

Problem is every computer user will inevitably encounter at least one "non-basic" thing that Linux doesn't handle well. It doesn't matter if Linux does the other 99% well because anything less than 100% is a regression.

VLC + RhytmBox + Transmission + aMule + Gimp

No wonder you're so paranoid about downloading software. Can't you guys just for once be honest about the "risks" of installing Windows software?

Anonymous said...

"Sure, by picking up a computer architecture book. "

It's funny you say that, I just got my Systems Architecture book delivered via UPS about an hour ago!

I (embarrassingly) used to believe what you've alluded to; the notion that by learning the Linux cli I was learning more about computers.

After 2 years of battling with Linux, I've come to my senses. I actually came to my senses much sooner than that, as I always realized Linux was not a viable alternative to Windows, or to anything.

Up until recently though, I continued to sink huge amounts of time into Linux, time that I now spend improving my Java knowledge, and learning C++ and studying programming in general.

Anonymous said...

linux

Anonymous said...

Shit, I didn't know LH made a new post. I was actually reloading the LiMux thread over and over again, asking to myself why there was no new comments in it.

Anonymous said...

RE: SSD & Defrag

It is false that fragmentation does not impact SSDs. While they do have a faster seek time, rendering random reads much faster, there may be a slight performance hit where the readahead cache can't do anything to help you.

BUT the place where it really slows down is writes. In order to rewrite a sector on a flash disk, it must erase a write block, and rewrite all data. These erase blocks are much larger than a disk sector. If you're writing a contiguous file, you're erasing and writing to the same block. If it's fragmented, you're erasing and rewriting many more sectors and your write performance drops dramatically. And this has been shown in the field.

Anonymous said...

So, how did the rest of you get into Linux, and how long did it take you to drop it like the bad habit that it is?

Linux_Victim said...

Redhat is the freetard darling. According to freetards, its success paves the way for the FOSS revolution and all the closed source software companies await the same fate as the dodo.

But, how successful is Red Hat really? Here is the list of the 500 biggest software companies by revenue/profit. The good news: redhat is on the list, but..


IBM
Microsoft Corporation
EDS
Accenture
Hewlett-Packard Company
Oracle Corporation
SAP
CSC
Capgemini
Lockheed Martin Corporation
SAIC, Inc.
NTT Data Corporation
EMC Corporation
Logica plc
ACS
Symantec Corporation
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Wipro Limited
Unisys Corporation
SunGard Data Systems, Inc. Pvt
Tata Consultancy
CA, Inc.
CGI Group Inc.
BearingPoint, Inc.
Adobe Systems Incorporated
Infosys Technologies Limited
Fiserv, Inc.
Pitney Bowes Software Pvt
Convergys Corporation
Amdocs, Inc.
Juniper Networks, Inc.
Intuit, Inc.
Perot Systems Corporation
The Sage Group plc
Gemalto NV
SAS Institute Inc. Pvt
Cognizant Technology Solutions Corporation
Avaya Inc. Pvt
Dassault SystËmes
Autodesk, Inc.
McKesson Corporation
DST Systems, Inc
CSK Corporation
Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
BMC Software
Apple Computer, Inc.
VeriSign, Inc.
Cerner Corporation
Satyam Computer Services Limited
BEA Systems, Inc.
Acxiom Corporation
Citrix Systems , Inc.
VMware, Inc
McAfee, Inc.
Compuware Corporation
Synopsys, Inc.
Harte-Hanks, Inc.
HCL Technologies Ltd.
Misys plc
Cegedim S.A.
CheckFree Corporation
Parametric Technology Corporation
Novell, Inc.
Avid Technology, Inc.
Software AG, Inc.
Sybase, Inc.
Mentor Graphics Corporation
Trend Micro
Fair Isaac Corporation
Lawson Software, Inc.
Research in Motion Limited
Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
Intergraph Corporation Pvt
ePlus inc.
Patni Computer Systems Limited
Akamai Technologies, Inc.
Tech Mahindra Limited
Sterling Commerce, Inc. Pvt
Quest Software, Inc.
Nuance Communications, Inc.
Open Text Corporation
Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.
IDS Scheer, Inc.
TIBCO Software, Inc.
Kronos Incorporated
RealNetworks, Inc.
NDS Group Plc
Ness Technologies, Inc.
Sapient Corporation
F5 Networks, Inc.
Aspect Software Pvt
NICE Systems Ltd.
salesforce.com, inc.
Progress Software Corporation
Unit 4 Agresso
Eclipsys Corporation
The TriZetto Group, Inc.
Bentley Systems, Inc.
GXS, Inc. Pvt
HLTH Corporation
CSG Systems International, Inc.
Axon Group plc
Epicor Software Corporation
Red Hat, Inc. (place 104)
Informatica Corporation


Source: http://www.softwaremag.com/SW500/index.cfm?500=8&id=8
You need to register (free) to see the list.



Yes, folks. Such well known companies like "Unit 4 Agresso" are more profitable than Red Hat. Pretty much ALL the companies that are listed are closed source software companies by the way. Novell is higher on the list than Red Hat, but it's not completley an open source company (netware etc. and don't forget, its evil Microsoft deal!)

So, if you're hearing from a FOSStard how FOSS is taking over, show them this list: pretty much unknown closed source companies with weird complicated names beat the biggest FOSS company into submission.

A few remarks about the list: Although IBM supports Linux, most of its own software (websphere, tivoli..) is not open source. SUN open sourced many of its products, but their faith into that strategy seems to be so high, that SUN will be sold to Oracle soon. (And aside from their one ill fated linux distro, none of Oracle's core products are open source)

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I'm a little lost on how Linux teaches stuff like pushdown automata, Turing machines, Von Neumann architecture, gate logic, and building rudimentary circuits with breadboards. I guess it does have regular expressions covered, but you can use those everywhere.

Anonymous Insider said...

Can you imagine the noise we'd hear if the Zealots ever achieved real market share!?

It'll be a fucking nightmare!

There's so much noise with just 1% market share:

OS Market Share

Anonymous said...

So, how did the rest of you get into Linux, and how long did it take you to drop it like the bad habit that it is?

Anonymous said...

I used to read this to blog when i was a Windows user, and laughed a lot.. now i'm moving to Linux


Yeah right, and I was born yesterday.

I'm honest, i tried ubuntu just cause my laptop graphic card died and i wanted to try something new.. before throwing it..

I'm not interested in "religious wars" between linux and windows, i'm just saying that i was noob and while "testing" ubuntu i feeled comfortable

---

you can script *easily* everything you don't want to do *manually* every time


You can do this in Windows, too, using every resource available in Linux plus cmd.exe, cscript, PowerShell, and the .NET framework. Additionally, there's a lot less to automate since Windows does a lot of the mind-numbing shit for you.

You CAN'T install all applications automatically, specially if noob..


Every resource available in linux?

So you can just create a file and put all "windows updates" "photoshop install" "winrar" "ie8" "icq" "emule" "azureus" + any utility + all the updates of OS and apps??

Woaaa.. so you don't need to create batch commands.. use orca for msi or such things?

Excuse me, really.. now teach me how and i'm at 20% back to Windows :)

---

if you broke something you can *easily* reinstall all your things for free


I can do this in Windows, too, but I don't need to because it's a lot harder to break. Seriously, what the hell are you doing that renders Windows unusable?


So you can write "apt-get remove *something*"
and "apg-get install *something*"

If for some reasons you broke an application?

Again, if you can do that with 2 commands in Windows.. add a 20% to my "re-Windows-ization"

---

you can learn how things works for *real* IF YOU WANT TO


you think dicking around with apt-get actually teaches you something beyond how to use apt-get?


If you want to "dick around" you can use more than apt-get, browse sys configurations files, man basic files and such.. just "Open with text Editor" if you don't like command line..

IF you want to understand how it works..

---

it's free and you don't need to browse 1000 pages of google to find a tool to download


when asking for options, the standard response is, "Try all 1,000. One of them has got to work!" But that's not true; what I have are 1,000 half-assed programs ... but suck in subtly different ways.


That's true, there are many different apps, you just have to move your ass and find out what's matching your needs..

You're trying to tell me that in windows it's not the same things?? you got no choices and all things you can download runs smooth and nice?

Are we talking about different OSs?

---


But i bet that any noob can use an Ubuntu for basic things without ANY issue.


.. every computer user will inevitably encounter at least one "non-basic" thing that Linux doesn't handle well. doesn't matter if Linux does the other 99% well because anything less than 100% is a regression.


Basic things.. i got a 2 years old laptop and the only thing that linux is missing was the half-burned nvidia geforce.. when i tried(2-3 hours) to handle that problem in windows i ended up with a "reboot" while reinstalling ORIGINAL drivers..

On ubuntu i just killed the card using the standard Vesa.. now i'm at 1024x760 with colours, without any scratch..

Not at 640x480 with 16 colours..

With what? xorg.conf and 3 lines of configuration including an hard: Driver "vesa"

---

VLC + RhytmBox + Transmission + aMule + Gimp


No wonder you're so paranoid about downloading software. Can't you guys just for once be honest about the "risks" of installing Windows software?


I'm not paranoid, i just don't like to browse for 2 hours to reinstall all my fucking OS+utilities if something gone wrong!

And it can be good to tell a noob friend "download wicd" without risking that the dumb downloads a malware..
(happened with emule, many video/audio codecs and such).

Anonymous said...

Anyway, kill me now.. i know how these "trolls" works, i just can't leave without saying what i think..

I still read that blog but now i understand that it's just an exaggeretion..

Have a nice "OMG Linux sucks!!!"
I can say "I don't think so" now that i tried it :-)

Anonymous said...

So how exactly do I update Photoshop, iTunes, Safari 4, IE8, Sony Vegas, and Dawn of War 2 in Ubuntu? Is there a more effective way than the way I've been doing it in Windows? Thanks in advance!

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 9:23 AM

Gold! I must say!

Anonymous said...

@ August 31, 2009 9:01 AM

So, because you and your friends are too dumb to leave wareZ sites alone, that is indicative of inherent problems with the Windows platform?

Anonymous said...

So, how did the rest of you get into Linux, and how long did it take you to drop it like the bad habit that it is?

I couldn't stabilize Windows 98, but what I didn't know at the time is that the 16 bit drivers from my video and sound card were likely at fault. I made a resolution to switch to Linux no matter what. By mid-2000, however, I admitted internally that were Windows 2000 viable slightly earlier I probably never would have wandered to Linux at all. I stuck with Linux as my primary desktop system for a little less than six years: through my entire college run and a few months of my first industry-related job. Abandoning it was a gradual process.

The turning point was Debian's libpng fiasco where they essentially split their testing/unstable architecture in two: stuff that supported the new version and stuff that supported the old version. No matter what you did, apt-get wanted to remove half the system. This lasted weeks, and maybe even longer. At no point did I get the impression that there was any pressure on package maintainers to get with the program. All they needed to do is repackage against the new version; the API was the same. There was even talk about not stepping on maintainers' toes when other people wanted to do the work. These guys can't find 30 minutes in a month to address a serious problem and we want to enable this behavior? WTF. It wasn't quite the same after that, but it still took me two more years until I ditched it.

I used to read all the changelogs because I was interested, but it eventually became a burden. However, if I didn't read them, I'd miss out of system-breaking behaviors, so I'd delay upgrading until I had the time/motivation to troubleshoot the upgrades or needed a specific application upgrade. This just exacerbated the problem since now I'm not processing upgrades daily there are hundreds of megabytes of updates and walls of changelog text.

[part 1 of 2]

Anonymous said...

[part 2 of 2]

By the time I got my post-college job I didn't have the time to constantly massage the updates, and now I had serious performance problems I couldn't diagnose and stabilizing a new install would take too long. As a triage step, I pulled a Windows 98 machine out and went to work on that. I semi-consciously chose 98 over XP, which I had available, because I thought the degraded experience would motivate me to fix my Linux problem. It didn't. I ended up pulling an XP machine, but it had some hardware problem that caused spontaneous reboots. I knew this ahead of time, so, again, I'm intentionally sabotaging myself in a deluded effort to make Linux more appealing. It still didn't work. I put up with the reboots for far too long before I said, "Fuck it!" and went to work on a then-pristine P4 that was only missing a hard drive, which I could easily accommodate.

I was surprised how quickly I could bridge the knowledge gap of not using Windows regularly for half a decade and how much the system had improved. Since stuff wasn't changing all the time I could actually solidify expectations. By XP SP1 I no longer had any substantial complaints about the Windows computing experience. Gradually I worked myself out of the self-sabotaging behavior by upgrading the RAM and hard drive, but I always intended to go back--you know, when "I had the time."

Meanwhile I'm still following the hype and trying out all the hot awesome revolutionary distros, Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS, SuSE, etc., and always with the same reaction: disappointment. I had three last straws. I couldn't get coLinux to work or even figure out how one goes about doing that. I couldn't get lirc to work or even figure out how one goes about doing that (for the third or so time in half a decade). I installed Ubuntu and it still couldn't detect video, despite me deliberately equipping the machine with bog standard hardware.

A few "Linux sucks" type frustration queries led me to Linux hater. I started reading and realized what I should have long ago: I'm never going back and shouldn't even want to. I got a little taste of what it must be like to walk away from something like Scientology or Amway. Skeptics like to say they're immune to cults, brainwashing, and groupthink, but the people who say that everyone is susceptible given the right "hook" are probably right.

Anonymous said...

"Skeptics like to say they're immune to cults, brainwashing, and groupthink, but the people who say that everyone is susceptible given the right "hook" are probably right."


http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,1935.0.html

Anonymous said...

So you can just create a file and put all "windows updates" "photoshop install" "winrar" "ie8" "icq" "emule" "azureus" + any utility + all the updates of OS and apps??

Uh, yeah, actually. Apparently you never heard of slipstreaming and PE.

Woaaa.. so you don't need to create batch commands.. use orca for msi or such things?

Batch commands are a lateral move from Linux scripting, which you already claimed as an advantage, so you can't use that as a disadvantage. Linux has no answer to MSI, so any pains associated with it are moot.

So you can write "apt-get remove *something*" and "apg-get install *something*"

It's even easier than that. I can double-click on an installer, and then remove it by going to "Programs".

IF you want to understand how it works..

All you get is Linux knowledge. It has no application to the larger realm of computing. For reals.

you just have to move your ass and find out what's matching your needs..

After going through this enough times it became evident that Linux lacked the tools to meet my needs. I thought I made this clear. Trying all 1,000 combinations was a waste of time because they all failed.

You're trying to tell me that in windows it's not the same things?? you got no choices and all things you can download runs smooth and nice?

There's still a lot of trial and error but also an expectation for success, which is usually met. This is pretty important.

[Video cards blah blah]

Broken hardware wasn't what I was referring to. By "non-basic" I meant people want functionality that Linux does not handle, like games, taxes, video editing, iPods, BluRay, etc.

I'm not paranoid, i just don't like to browse for 2 hours to reinstall all my fucking OS+utilities if something gone wrong!

You missed the point. You're asking for trouble getting software off bittorrent and edonkey .

Adam King said...

@ Linux_Victim

Lockheed Martin a software company? Accenture? Hewlett-Packard? Really?

Try harder next time. At least when you make up BS, try to make it believable.

Anonymous said...

Lockheed Martin a software company? Accenture? Hewlett-Packard? Really?

For reals. All of them develop software internally and don't release it to the public. That's pretty much the definition of "proprietary software".

Anonymous said...

oiaohm is that you, welcome back. we missed you.

Why are you posting Anon?

Anonymous said...

Adam King is a faggot. Refute that.

Adam King said...

@ August 31, 2009 10:04 AM
04AM

If that is your definition, then pretty much every company in the Fortune 500 is a software company. Wal-mart, guess what? You are a software company!

Keep this up guys. You make a bigger fool of yourselves then I could possibly do.

Anonymous said...

look who's talking....

Anonymous said...

If that is your definition, then pretty much every company in the Fortune 500 is a software company. Wal-mart, guess what? You are a software company!

I thought that much was obvious. HP really is a software company, by the way. C'mon, you know that. You do know that most "software companies" never release their wares outside the company, right?

Adam King said...

Seriously guys, I could come up with better anti-Linux arguments then that, and I don't even hate Linux. You guys are getting more pathetic by the day. There was a point where Linux hate wasn't this retarded.

Anonymous said...

"Seriously guys, I could come up with better anti-Linux arguments then that, and I don't even hate Linux"

It's not then, it's than, you fucking freetard faggot!

Adam King said...

In my awesome dialect of English, your wrong. But seriously, you guys can do better. Maybe we need to set up a Hatertard school of Linux haterism. LH can be your professor.

Anonymous said...

In my awesome dialect of English, your wrong

You are or you're, and I dont'even speak english.

Anonymous said...

Disney to buy Marvel for $4 billion

I know you freetards don't understand, but in the real world, this is big news.

Anonymous said...

Good thing the best franchises have already been exploited. There's gonna be an uproar when Beauty & The Beast 2 stars Sabretooth. On the bright side we'll finally get that Howard the Duck and Donald Duck pairing we've all been clamoring for.

Anonymous said...

Today my Geforce 7900 GT died, this time forever. After more than three years of honorable service it's time to move on, and since I don't really have much money the 9600GT would be not only a good replacement, but a step up from the 7900 in terms of performance and API support (so I can finally enjoy DX10). Yay!

Also I'm saving money for something more useful, a small server (something like a mini-itx or even smaller) capable of running Windows Server 2008 R2 (I'm gonna get it being a MS Partner), and support for at least two big drives (I mean, 2.5" drives to save on power and lower noise and heat, something like 500Gb or 1Tb).

I need something basic, especially for video (as I'm gonna take the monitor off after setting it up and using it with RemoteDesktop). Via has some nice boards, Zotac's offerings are too much centered aroung media and games. Intel has only boards with Atom or designed for the media. I really need something that can have decent performance at managing backups, files and Exchange, and also be able to stream videos and music over the net. So no need for fancy graphic chips or 7.1Ch integrated audio, it needs to be small and power efficient (not only it has to draw little power as it's going to stay up 24h, but also that is powerful enough to do things fast and then return to a power-saving state ASAP).

I'm taking the opportunity of an upgrade to 7 to rebuild all my home network and have something that is future-proof or at least easily upgradable. I already got everything to run on WiFi (except a Lacie network drive), so I can ditch cables forever.

Anonymous said...

I would imagine the comics side of the business isn't doing very well these days.

Maybe freetards have found a way to ruin artists' livelihoods the way they have programmers' and musicians'.

Anonymous Insider said...

Adam King is just another loser who doesn't care about Linux 1% market share and who gets a hard on with Windows7sins

Anonymous said...

Adam King is fascinated/obsessed with the IBM Linux commercials that last aired nearly 6 years ago.

His latest "blog" post heralds that (failed) ad campaign as proof of Linux's "success".

Anonymous said...

Qué pasa Anonymous Insider? Mi favorito CoSta RIiIiIiIiIiIiIkkan.

Anonymous said...

@August 31, 2009 11:05 AM

If all you're gonna do is simple file serving, even dual core Atoms are probably overkill, but Core2 and AM2 platforms are available as Mini-ITX. Just make sure you go with the beefier PicoPSU.

I just built a router from one of Jetway's Atom offerings. I wanted the single core version but it was out of stock so I opted for dual core. It draws about 25W at idle but lacks any moving parts outside of CPU fan.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah. The router runs pfSense. It has its limitations, but I'm impressed overall. Dual WAN is as seamless as can be expected given the inherent limitations.

Adam King said...

Well I should stop pretending there is more then one Linux hater: there is only one.

SATAN!

Anonymous said...

@ Adam King

STFU, pathetic, inane troll.

Adam King said...

SATAN!

Linux_Victim said...

Adam King, you're one of the biggest trolls I have seen on the internet. DAMN.

That list is not my list, but from software magazine:

www.softwaremag.com

And no, this is not the forbes 500 list.


About Accenture, HP etc. not making software, how about this:

http://www.pecaso.com/softwareandsupport/index.php


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"Accenture Human Capital Management
Solutions Software Center

The fruit of more than 20-years’ experience, our software is designed to enhance the functionality of SAP ERP Human Capital Management or work as a standalone solution. Either way, it can reduce implementation timelines, simplify upgrades, lower costs considerably and enable high performance.

Read more about all the elements of the Accenture Human Capital Management Solutions software suite"


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Next time, try to use a search engine before you write your worthless crap, you damn moron.

Anonymous said...

Damn, smackdown.

Anonymous Insider said...

SJVN starts migration from Linux to Mac OS X

SJVN wrote "Mac OS X, Ubuntu Linux, and Windows, which is the easiest to update? The answer may surprise you."

Now Mac OS X comes first.

It seems as if SJVN has finally realized that riches are tied to Mac OS X and not Linux.

My guess is that in the near future for every Linux article SJVN writes, we'll get 4 outstanding articles on Mac OS X.

It might help if SJVN revises again the data on "Operating Systems Used to Access Google" to better organize his quota of articles.

A better organization should be:

1 Linux article
4 Mac OS X articles
4 Other OS articles (AIX, Solaris, HP-UX)
Repeat cycle

Linux_Victim said...

More about Accenture and Lockheed Martin.


Accenture:


http://www.accenture.com/Global/Consulting/Talent_and_Organization/Workforce_Performance/Services/AHCMSSoftwareSuite.htm


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Accenture HR Productivity Suite: Improves the performance and functionality of the standard SAP ERP HCM system by combining Accenture Clone and Test, Accenture Patch Analyzer, and the Accenture Audit and Compliance Tool into a suite.

Accenture Clone and Test: Creates a fast, safe and realistic testing environment by replicating real data from the client’s productive SAP ERP HCM system.

Accenture Patch Analyzer: Analyzes SAP-patches and facilitates adoption of new configurations.

Accenture Audit and Compliance Tool: Optimizes SAP ERP HCM security and compliance, and accelerates time-critical processes such a payroll checking.

OrgPublisher for SAP® Solutions: Automates the process of building accurate organizational charts.

Accenture Talent Management Suite: Reduces workload and increases organizational performance by providing practical, user-friendly and cost-effective HR solutions.

Accenture HR Cost Manager: Aids in personnel planning for a number of strategic and operational tasks.

Accenture HR Management Suite: Allows decentralized maintenance of personnel and organizational data by providing a Web-based front-end for SAP ERP HCM.
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Lockheed Martin:


http://discoverlockheedmartin.com/software/index.asp


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About 25 percent of our sales are in IT.

• We stand as the largest provider of IT solutions and services to the U.S. government.

• In the latest ranking by VAR Business magazine, we were named the top government IT provider, and number
6 among the 500 largest IT solutions providers in North American.

-----



Adam King, you god damn troll, I can't believe that I am wasting time with you. Damn.

Anonymous said...

Well 2008 R2 should be only 64bit, so I'll need a 64bit CPU. The Atom 330 should have EM64T if I'm not mistaken. Celeron 220 also has EM64T. The Atom solution should be better, you have one more core and also the clock is 400MHz higher than the Celeron, but I have to look at the prices to make a better comparison. What troubles me the most with the Atom and Celeron solutions is the 945 chipset, it's crappy and isn't really power-efficient. Nano would be nice as a complete solution (and has integrated security on-die), but has limited offerings and actual boards are geared towards media use.

Jetways are nice. NC91 and NC92 seems identical, the only difference I see is with internal connectors and a missin serial port on the backpanel. This could help with the space. J9F2 also seems good, as I could use a better Mobile CPU and faster RAM. I should dig more into this and see what CPU I can find, as for what I remember, mobile CPUs are not really cheap. This also has a Mini PCI that could fit a Sata/Raid card, and could be really useful. Oh fuck wait, they have Nano! Maybe I should go for the L2200 (as there's not much difference beetwen L and U series in power consumption). A pci slot could also be useful, I could grab a low-profile pci sata card for that and expand the storage capacity and security with raid 1. Two USBs on the back are enough for a backup HDD or something else. S3 and S4 compliant and Vista compatible, that means there are drivers compatible also with Server 2008. The fan could be a problem, I should check if it runs cool even without it, or just change it with a bigger and silent fan. Yes!

Thanks for pointing me to Jetway, I almost forgot about them.

Anonymous said...

I got the NC92. The NF-94 is fanless.

I built my router for a smidge over $300 w/ shipping. I find the prices quite reasonable given the specialty of the parts.

Anonymous said...

300$ so it's like ~200€, but considering many things are hard to find or I need to get them from the USA it could be a little bit higher with international shipping costs.

But still it's way better than anything else, and way cheaper than a normal ATX pc, on hardware and energy, and smaller so I don't actually fill my house with huge and noisy monoliths.

Anonymous said...

PREDICTION:

THE NEXT FREETARD HOLY WAR will be against Apple, as Former Freetards continue to rationalize moving away from Linux and on to Macs ("Hey, it's still UNIX and not M$!") while bitter overweight hippies and brainwashed girl-afraid teens cling to their Linux distros.

THEY WILL FIGHT IT OUT in the comments sections of various blogs littered across the barren digital wasteland that is "tech journalism" for ultimate domination of the sub-five-percent market share.

ON A SCALE OF 0 TO 10, with 0 representing zero possibility and 10 representing complete metaphysical certitude, what do you think?

Anonymous said...

I simply got tired of d-cking around with so many distros (UseDistroX(TM)) searching for something at least as polished as Win95. But they all had quirks. And once I found something decent (Linux Mint), the apps left a lot to be desired. Meanwhile during my tenure with Loonix Desktop, I watched as tons of cool freeware poured in daily on betanews...for windows.

The only thing to look forward to on Linux Desktop were OS point releases, firefox updates (which always took f-cking forever to get into official repositories) or maybe new flash codecs. I gave up on graphic apps and there was no replacement to paint,net or photofiltre, or equivalent to Daemontools, no right click/send to menu program options, lack of good dedicated media programs, lack of visio 1.0 equivalents, etc. Everything in repositories pretty much s-cked, were half-assed or poorly developed, or had major bugs like crap freeze during file open/save. I loved the few times my x server froze up when compiz was enabled, requiring an x restart and flushing my work down the toilet. This happened no matter what card I used, Intel/nvidia/Ati. Leaving compiz on is like playing russian roulette, albeit your chance of X lockup is MUCH higher.

Thank Goodness I'm using Win7 now, that nightmare is behind me. Npw when I see a dork use Linux Desktop, I don;t care, go ahead, waste ur time, I learned my lesson a long time. I got better things to do with my time.

Anonymous said...

Photoshop Elements 7 for 30bucks (aftter rebate):

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/23983

Those of you recovering from the dementia that is GIMP, this is a sweet deal.

Anonymous said...

heck, I masturbate at the thought i can use paint,net or photofiltre again, or the ton of other cool freeware graphics apps that are useable and friendly. Not this arcane BS where u have to drop down list just to f-cken bold TEXT in GIMP.

Anonymous said...

Here's a stupid comment from Thomas B, at Adam King's Blog:

"Thomas B. said...
Come on guys, post your names. Don't stay anonymous,"


Now he's the latest Freetard to demand people's names. What is this weird Freetard/Stalker obsession?

Anonymous said...

ON A SCALE OF 0 TO 10, with 0 representing zero possibility and 10 representing complete metaphysical certitude, what do you think?

I'd say 8-9. As the general UNIX mind and market share continues to consolidate, we'll hear more and more about the "Easter Christian" version of FOSS advocates and how they are not true believers. It won't do much good as Stallman's rantings will be received on the same level as the Catholic Church's inflexible stances. Meanwhile, the pragmatic protestant programmers (Open Source) will continue to find a balance of utility and compensation but overall dogmatic philosophy will wane.

Anonymous said...

What is this weird Freetard/Stalker obsession?

At least he's not as creepy as Florian Schiessl, the Limux developer who wants home addresses.

Anonymous said...

Guess which Loontard this is

Anonymous said...

Since Thomas B doesn't like anonymity:


thomasb2k@hotmail.com

http://www.blogger.com/profile/07765501649782126315

Anonymous said...

In case Anyone needs to open sucky openoffice files in office xp or higher:

http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/

BRYAN LUNDUKE said...

I see Linux Hater and Kerberos still don't use their real names. It is important to show everyone who you are to defend what you say.

I USE MY REAL NAME.

Come on The Computer Action Show and defend your position on Linux.

Anonymous said...

Bryan Lunduke is a fucking lamer. My real name is Dick Inya.

Anonymous said...

BRYAN LUNDUKE, why do you "CARE" who the linux hater is ?

Missing some ad hominem oportunities of atack you freetards love so much, and always engage with?

Most anonymous people here are haters anyway, an we like to stay anonymous.

To many script kiddies among freetards (I know I was one, but luckily I got over it very fast and very early in my youth). I don't want some cheap ass flood coming to my IP address, or to be stalked all over the internet, by a 17 year old that has nothing more interesting to do.

I know the lintards crowd all to well, a mix of immature idealistic, shortsighted and vengeful (at least on the internet anyway) bunch of no lifers mixed with a bunch of 15 year old script kiddies, a great mix.

So, I for one, I'll stay anonymous till the day you grow up (meaning forever).

Anonymous said...

Office 2007 SP2 reads and writes Open Document Format files.

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