Friday, November 20, 2009

Bad karma

Lets see, it's been almost 18 months since I originally posted Evolution of an Ubuntu user, but looks like they still haven't got their fucking act together.


I know a lot of you freetards out there dream of jobs where you can work on Linux, write code for Linux, and pen flowery blog posts that make it up on hacker news, but let me tell you, unless you're one of the few who are hired by Redhat to contribute nothing to their bottom line and instead work on their playground sand castle known as Fedora, it's going to suck.

So anyways, I had the awesome opportunity to upgrade to Karmic. Cuz I know, like shuttleman says, every Ubuntu release is the best fucking Ubuntu release ever.

Problem #1? Using update-manager to upgrade Ubuntu from behind the firewall is ass-slow. Yep, you guessed it. They try to do something that doesn't respect http_proxy and has to time-out before progressing. What year is this? really guys? Just because Ubuntards work out of their basement, doesn't excuse you from not supporting one of the most common practices in company network environments. I mean, it took us like five years to get you to add that damn option in the installer so that it didn't choke on a fat dick trying to the apt repositories. Now this. Amateur.

And while on the subject of proxies, it looks like your new shiny empathy client doesn't support proxies. Yep, there's a bug for that. Yep that's some empathy right therr. Obviously you totally understand your users get their shit done. Otherwise you wouldn't change my default chat app that fails to download my contact list, even from a server that's behind the proxy.

Problem #2? Wee! Something about my xconfig borked during an upgrade. And now I get a fucking strobe light prompt. I know you want to always give me a challenge to get a reasonable display, but do you actually have to try to damage my eyesight? What the fuck happened to bullet proof X? oh, right maybe that was only for intrepid, because, you know why add a useful feature if you're just going to keep it around for every subsequent release and not rewrite it?

Problem #3? Google reader on firefox is crazy slow. I mean, ff3.5 on jaunty worked just fine. But it's ok, nobody uses google reader. Yep, there's a bug for that, too, with a bunch of awesome Ubuntu contributors saying "me too!" "me too!" OMFG this bug is going to get fixed if we all keep saying me too! How many users does it take to fix a bug? None, you dipshit. You need a dev that gives a fuck.

Problem #4? I'm sure pulseaudio has something to do with this, but the volume on my computer appears to have exactly 3 notches between quiet and SUPER FUCKING TRIPLE SONIC BOOM YOU WIN! Ubuntu -- damaging your senses, one sense at a time. Maybe Linux is totally awesome if you're blind and deaf, and you just connect a serial console to your ass.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, there's a bug for that. Filed in March 2008!

Ok fine, I'm totally going to schedule three work days to upgrade when Lactating Leper comes out. If only there was some calendaring app that I could use to remind me.. because as far as I can see, Evolution is actually devolving. Come on Novell! just a little more. You've almost killed it! Only a few more smacks!

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Anonymous said...

Funny, just the other day my Ubuntu friends were telling me how far Ubuntu had progressed, and how this new release is the best thing ever.

Looks like nothing has changed.

Good post LH.

Anonymous said...

1)http_proxy and update manager not respecting is not new. There is a very valid reason. Its attempting to aquire current list of packages. Most current. If you just respect the http_proxy and the proxy is a little suspect it can return like a 3 week old version. Now of proxies were 100 percent dependable to provide upto date there would not be any valid reason to avoid proxy.

Common business management of Linux systems is to run a local file mirror as well. So again not having to go threw proxy and going to proxy would create unrequired load. Sorry Linux hater you are incompetent here. Basically you are being punished for not running a file mirror or one of the other apt aware caches. Those caches locally appear to be normal ftp or http but are smart about what packages need to be kept and what needs to be deleted.

Why complian about the http_proxy anyhow that depends on program to be coded to know about it. http://darkk.net.ru/redsocks/ Get this integrated by by problem. enmpathy works perfectly with items like redsocks.

Windows requires http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinGate so some programs work with socks as well. Even mac has its equal. No one hear really has a leg to stand on over the socks issue all of you have defects with it.

2)Xconfig screw up Ok not too bad. Windows 7 upgrade sometimes leaves you with a 1cm/1cm on screen display in the top section of screen if you happen to have the wrong version ATI drivers installed in Vista when you upgrade it.

Yes its a perfect copy of display scaled down to 1cm/1cm in the conner of screen.

So a little bit of flashing lights not that bad at all. Caused by the same kind of issue by the way. Also can be caused by a video card on the way out before it dies. Different driver pushes card different ways. At least the display was skill kind of usable.

Mac has also had flashing lights issues on some upgrades as well. Driver related.

3) That one is a bug. Glib releated. If you track over versions you will notice its got worse version to version it caused by stack changes. Part of the long term clean up of Linux vidio stack. End result will be 100 percent tear free graphics.

4) problem funny enough does not effect all sounds cards. Its still a nasty floating around glitch. Its had 7 attempted fixs since March 2008. The bug gets fixed for some people yet still more people still hit it. It will get there. Debugging is sometimes a long and painful process. Once solved it normally stays that way.

Anonymous said...

yaay! my world came crumbling down, when blogger failed!

But now we're back again; To start completely all over. :D

See ya' in 5000 comments. :p

Anonymous said...

I think we have a new TM...
SuperFuckingTripleSonicBoomYouWin(TM)

I particularly enjoyed Ohio Ham's assertion that a bug at a level in the stack that has 0 relation to actually drawing. Glib has nothing to do with Cairo or Gtk which are the 2 drawing technologies in use on firefox. Next time, pick a level of the stack actually involved in the bugs behavior.

Anonymous said...

"November 20, 2009 5:54 PM"

Glib does the basic data controls for GTK you idiot. Like syncing buffers with X11.

Performance crunch is buffer related. GTK-Cario form of firefox is also having issues with glib vs Cario for vsync information.


GTK system is two halfs. Ie GTK what are your widgets. Glib that does the rendering lifting.

Anonymous said...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzcxMA

This is the change required to get on top of the problem with firefox rendering. The glib loops for rendering are not happing at the right times. So leading to speed hits on a scale of insanity.

Anonymous said...

OhioHamIsFullOfShit(tm)

Anonymous said...

No, it doesn't. Glib is specifically a utility library. It sits below everything graphics related. If you're trying to say GDK, I might believe you. The only place Glib comes into play is during event dispatching and providing data types.

See above TM...

Anonymous said...

You know... I was once like you. I have roughly 10 years of experience with linux (a tad more, but... well, that wasn't really usage back then) and had it on my primary desktop for a few years. For five years. One day, I realized I wanted to work without effort and no longer spend hours in configuring my notebook, but actually using it... which was when I installed windows again. My servers stay on linux of course, but I'm not looking back to those days I used linux on my desktop... I'm happy now. Wanna try... ?

All the best to you that's slightly making a laugh of himself whilst trying to wake up idealistic programmers and other linux hippies by
- Benjamin S.

Anonymous said...

Common business management of Linux systems is to run a local file mirror as well.

He doesn't mention having to upgrade more than his own system, so what you're suggesting is essentially like saying people should run a WSUS server on their lan to upgrade their single windows box.

That's a bit over the top.

UseEsotericWorkarounds(tm) fits here.

LH: post more often, man. That BloggerCommentFailOfDeath(tm) had us as concerned as it had us rolling in the aisles laughing.

Anonymous said...

I run slackware and haven't had any of these problems. Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness for a new post, I was going crazy having to read some of the silliness on our temporary hangout at SJVN's blog LOL.

Anyways I was reading our favorite apLOLrence new article:

Freeing disk space with ">"

http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/freeing-disk-space.html

he used a typical UseEsotericWorkarounds(TM) perl script to reclaim wasted space.

Then one of the more informed readers said it could have just been done with one line using:

'cat /dev/null 2>&1 > file

Of course apLOLrence got mad. Then did the typical ShiftTheBlame(TM) routine and said it wasn't really hardcore code, he was just "saying".

Hey mrApLOLrence, dude, stop tinkering with UNIX PERlscripts and please take your wife on a nice dinner CRUISE ok? There is more to life then reclaiming wasted space with esoteric PERL commands.

Anonymous said...

Too bad there is no such thing as crapcleaner on Ubuntu. I just right click my recyclebin and it does it's thing. Then I can do more exciting things like watching porn with my wife and having sex at the same time.
It's a lot more fun than learning arcane 70's CLI commands.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering where everyone was; imagine my surprise when I stopped by here and saw a new post!

It's pretty quiet at $JVN and the other LinuxHaters site tonight.

-NamenlosGoldRockGuy(TM)

Anonymous said...

A new freetard for us to raid:

IT News Today

I learned about him at Piestar, apparently he's another Linux-biased, $JVN-type.

Pj said...

Linux is just fucking terrible, but unfortunately using a Mac isn't any better.

A year and a half ago I once again grew tired of Linux's bullshit and so I spent $1200 on a MacBook. At first it was wonderful, but after two weeks I had a very long list of things which just sucked. I was willing to live with those faults, since overall the OS was still clearly a winner in that I had already written a GUI application whereas with 10 years of Linux I had never done so, but then I finally aquired a USB mouse. It had taken a while since I wanted to make sure I bought one I liked, and so for the first two weeks I had suffered with the trackpad knowing that it would all be much better once I had a real mouse.

...but that wasn't the case at all. It turns out that using an actual mouse is even more torture. The replies to this blog describe the problem well. My own comments are from "Pj." You'll note that there are numerous add-on applications to fix the problem, but just like in the open source world, none of it works like it is supposed to.

Since the problem has existed forever and Apple is oblivious to it, I realized I had no choice but to return the thing and buy a Windows laptop, but I was one day beyond the two week return policy and so I was stuck with the piece of shit.

So I installed Windows on it. Windows was nice in that stuff generally worked like it was supposed to, but a lack of multiple desktops (the microsoft add-on doesn't implement them correctly) and a terrible command line experience caused me to have a laptop which I simply wasn't using for anything other than occasional web browsing.

One day I realized that and so I installed Linux on it. While shit breaks all of the time and I'm afraid to do any sort of upgrade without a complete backup of the OS, at least I'm getting some use out of it now.

Honestly, for a Linux user to try Windows may not be a complete waste of time, but to suggest that they try a Mac is just plain cruel. It's a ridiculous waste of money and the OS isn't going to go over well with anyone who is used to being able to reconfigure things they don't like (Mac OS doesn't allow a solid black background color on the desktop) and fix things that don't work correctly (you'll never fix that mouse acceleration problem). In that sense, the only improvement a Mac offers is that if something doesn't work, you know there isn't shit you can do about it, and so you can forget it and get on with your life, but since Linux users are used to being able to eventually fix things, it'll be a lot of pain before they figure that out and they probably won't be so happy about it.

Anonymous said...

Good news all.

Fedora is no better. Actually, it keeps going from a scandal to a scandal.

Particular kudos goes to this Richard Hughes chap who "doesn't particularly care how UNIX has always worked", but yet writes software that has throughout implications to the old and new paradigms. I kind of feel sorry for the guy though; that phrase is going to hunt him as long as he works with open source. But well, once a freetard, always a retard.

This is what you get when GUI guys are writing system software.

This is also shows that there is practically no quality assurance whatsoever in Fedora.

Complex layers upon complex layers.

Watch out for the Linux of the future: the new Microsoft Windows 95.

Linux progress is regress.

Anonymous said...

Look, this Ubuntu guy interviews some guy and there is the following question:


7. What luck have you had introducing new computer users to Ubuntu?


This could as well be: what luck have you had converting people to Islam?. And the answer is:


When I was taking my computer science college classes I was very successful with getting people to switch. Most of the crowd I associate with in Chicago already use one flavor of Linux or the other. I got my brother to switch, but that wasn’t to hard to do, he had no other choice. Since switching him he does not call or bother me with fixing his computer. Now if only the others would take note, as I am tired of fixing Windows screw ups by them all.


This mentality of Jehovah's Witnesses is the single most annoying element in the Linux community.

Anonymous said...

I was surprised at parts of his answer to this one:

8. What would you like to see happen with Linux in the future? with Ubuntu?

"I would definitely love to see the whole “year of the Linux desktop” thing stop. I would love to see less fanboys and more active contributors. I would love to see Linux succeed, don’t get me wrong, but there is still a while to go before then.

Those “I’m a PC and I’m a Mac” commercials work here in the US. I think that once Linux gets at least 2% of the desktop market we can start to hope to become number 2 by going after Mac. In Ubuntu, I would love to see the hooplah of bug number one go away. Bug number one is Microsoft, and we haven’t even handled Mac yet. But most of all, I would love to see more contributors. The Linux community is so easy to get involved in, whereas it isn’t as easy to be a part of something as large. I don’t know anyone who is fixing Microsoft or Mac bugs just because they can."


While he's still a freetard, it's good to see that he wants to see some of the zealotry stop. It's good he's also realistic enough to realize that they have no hope of even beginning to compete with Microsoft.

He's still batsh1t delusional though, to even think they can ever compete with Apple.

: ^ D

Anonymous said...

PulseAudio continues to FAIL:

PulseAudio can no longer be killed off in favor of Alsa. Karmic Koala has so tied up and dumbed down the situation that killing off PulseAudio will kill off ALL sound. Not only that, but there is no way to cause the system sounds (window open/close, button press, etc) to work right. An additional factor is that you are apt to have a heart attack when changing from one user to another due to the HIGH volume level of the alert sound for the new login screen. The only way I’ve found to fix this is to kill off ALL system sounds.


Amazing.


Yet the developers and MOTUs (Masters of the Universe) have determined that I MUST have this additional layer, whether I want or need it, or not. And that it will be dumbed down to the point of being unable to be configured to MY needs and wants. Worse still is the fact that it’s applied without my choice, and removes my ability to choose whether or not to use it. This is unacceptable.


Linux is nowadays a bad clone of Windows, not anymore a bad clone of Unix.


Therefore, telling me that I’m wrong and PulseAudio is the best thing since sliced bread, or any other such drivel, will be removed from the comments to this blog. If you have a valid work-around to the problem, then create a patch and pass it up to the repositories. I’ve tried too many work-arounds that didn’t work to be bothered with trying any more. Nor will I listen to any more “oh, it’ll get better”. You’ve had at least 3 releases to make it better, with no significant improvement, and (in fact) some regression.


Linux community is a happy-happy land. Reality: when you say a bad thing about Linux, you get flamed to hell. Nice JustAroundTheCorner(tm) in there too.

Anonymous said...


we haven’t even handled Mac yet


Good old Freetard delusion. Like handling Apple or handling Microsoft would be like handling a can opener, the easiest thing in the world. But perhaps it is easy if you just believe enough and convert enough people.

Anonymous said...

Freetarded or not, the IT News Today guy did have some decent tips for family support - Inflicting OpenDNS on a troublemaker certainly makes sense. I used to use it at work before we got on to 8e6.

And even he understands drive imaging. Maybe our resident freetard here could go have a read, that is if he ever notices the new thread instead of spamming the old broken one ;)

Fedora always has and always will be chock full of fail. I refuse to even waste my time downloading it any longer. Fedora is a sandbox inhabited by kiddies with soiled trousers. It's just not worth playing in.

Nuff said about that.

Does anyone else get a bit sick in the gut when the phrase "Linux Flavor" or some permutation thereof is used? It's just such an awful sounding analogy to make (especially considering that most distros would taste like shit).

It's as bad as the PC ricer crowd and their "rigs".

Buggers should be called mutations, along the same lines as selective breeding, considering how many were "evolved" from so few.

Here's to Mutabuntu Type 364 on a Render Station!

/end ramble

Anonymous said...

Freetards are perhaps best known for their efforts to spread their beliefs. They do this as they believe Richard Stallman instructed and set the example to preach. GNU ideology is offered to people who show interest in their beliefs, which they present with the aid of their publications. Literature is published in many languages through a wide variety of books, magazines and other publications, with a small selection available in over 440 languages. Witnesses are instructed to devote as much time as possible to preaching activities, and are required to provide a monthly report to their congregation on their 'witnessing' activity.

Anonymous said...


But well, once a freetard, always a retard.


I'll pick this one as a catch phrase.


But you know, as they say, once a freetard, always a retard.


LOL.

Anonymous said...

@November 20, 2009 10:27 PM

That's creepy. Even more so because it rings true.

And just like you're not necessarily an atheist if you slam the door on a JW, you aren't necessarily a Wintard if you refuse F$F dogma.

You just detest JW/Freetards bothering you.

Anonymous said...

Aaaahh! Speaking of creepy, go to fsf.org and look at the character staring at you on the video on their page!

I went their looking for the "Essay from Sarah", which some of you remember, which is very cult-like, but got distracted by the video, which I'm scared to watch!

: ^ D

Anonymous said...

^
*there

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of the GNOME 2.26 -> 2.28 upgrade in Arch Linux a while back. The only practical benefit was PDF annotation in Evince.

The rest? Intermittent crashes back to the login screen, inability to customise the login screen, keyboards and mice not working, external drives no longer mounting... the list goes on and on. With a feature set like this, it's hard to consider 2.28 an upgrade at all.

How are such glaring faults even allowed to be released? This sort of thing is exactly why regression testing was invented. Terrible.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, I just found an online compiler for C++, C#, Java, Python, PHP, C (for LongPHPCodes(TM)), and for the freetards among us, Bash.

Ideone.com

I normally use codepad.org, but ideone accepts input!

(> < )__\m/

Anonymous said...

Common business management of Linux systems is to run a local file mirror as well

Why? Have you ever seen people mirroring the whole damned Windows Update repository of packages when they try and update their 100+ Windows machines? Besides, a contemporary proxy server is supposed to have the capability to update its cache content upon a simple request from the client. There is simply no reason to run third-party software like WinGate in order to just get a feature that has already been mandated in HTTP 1.1 to work. If you somehow find yourself using esoteric workarounds just to keep your enterprise network running, you have already screwed up. Whoever paying your bills must be either crazy or just plain stupid.

UseEsotericWorkarounds(TM)

Anonymous said...

A blast from the (not-so-distant) past: (Video)

Ubuntu causes girl to drop out of college

Look at the freetard YouTube comments.

Anonymous said...

Here's one comment on the video. I was hoping this one was posted sarcastically, but I actually think it's from a deluded freetard:

"LOL
the retarded chick obviously didnt use NDISwrapper for her wifi and Wine to run MS-Word and the verison cd setup. besides, why would u use ms word when u can use open office????"

Pikaman said...

Only two words came out of my mouth as I read this.

"HOLY... SHIT!"

Thank god for people like LH who bring this bullshit up front and center.

Anonymous said...

Guys, I know it's long-winded, but I think we have a new TM(TM) to use to show how out-of-touch the freetards are with normal society:

LOLTheRetardedChickObviouslyDidntUseNDISwrapperForHerWifi AndWineToRunMSWord(TM)

Anonymous said...

Damn failtastic Blogger, I'll have to hyphenate it for it to show up:

LOLTheRetardedChickObviouslyDidnt-
UseNDISwrapperForHerWifi-
AndWineToRunMSWord(TM)

Anonymous said...

> Like handling Apple or handling Microsoft would be like handling a can opener, the easiest thing in the world.

Linux is available free of cost. Apple and Microsoft have to fall to it sooner or later.

You enjoy your slaveware while it lasts. Tomorrow belongs to us.

Pikaman said...

November 21, 2009 12:53 AM

What? you're gonna give those users free support, too?

Or is that how you plan to make a living?

Anonymous said...


Linux is available free of cost. Apple and Microsoft have to fall to it sooner or later.


AtLeastItIsFree(tm).

How is that btw working out for you? Still stuck at 1 %?

Anonymous said...

Sucks-Rules-O-Meter confirms it: Ubuntu and Suse suck.

Anonymous said...

I still think LH and most haters here are girls.

Thanks for the codepad and ideone links!

And remember, in case of bX-t14bci use this.

Anonymous said...

Here's a page where you can download a ChromeOS VMWare image.

Anonymous said...

It won't run in VMWare Player (this is a vmdk file), but it will open in VirtualBox.

It runs slow as hell, and you have to sign in with your Gmail account.

So far, it's even more boring than I expected.

: ^ /

Anonymous said...

So you have to create a Google account to use it?

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 2:18 AM

Yep.

As soon as it boots, you're at a screen wanting your Gmail address and password.

You are essentially just logging into a Chrome browser, it's pretty lame.

: ^ /

Anonymous said...

I really don't understand all these freetards who think this is the future of computing; I guess they're going to latch on to Google / ChromeOS because "LinuxIsTehKernel(TM)".

This is shit.

: ^ /

Anonymous said...

I wonder how much more can Google spy on people forcing them to open accounts just to surf the web.

So much for the Incognito mode.

Anonymous said...

The freetards will no doubt, paradoxically, bleat on about how this is part of "freedom".

: ^ /

Anonymous said...

Ahahahaa, look at this:

Angry iPhone Owners Demand to See iPhone Source Code

Good luck with that!

: ^ D

(> < )__\m/

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu dist-upgrade = bX-t14bci(TM)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for letting us know about 4 bugs that most of us haven't encountered on Karmic. I'll be back listing 4 bugs with other operating systems.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for letting us know about 4 bugs that most of us haven't encountered on Karmic.

WorksForMe(TM)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for letting us know about 4 bugs that most of us haven't encountered on Karmic.

YoudDon´tNeedThatFeature(TM)

Anonymous said...

Microsoft should get involved in Linux distribution as they'd clean up with it, just as long as they rip the gnu shit out and give us a compiler that doesn't suck ass.

I imagine that would be the event that would drive RMS from eating toe jam to children.

Anonymous said...

It is really funny reading all the Freetard bullshit about the Chrome.

It is almost like these guys do not want their own operating system to success as long as Microsoft's business is harmed.

But you can read this in a positive light too. Maybe many of the people are actually not F$F-Freetards, but instead just idiots who are willing to jump into whatever bandwagon is hip at the time. This would generally mean hard times for Linux or at least the ridiculous aim of Linux world domination.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Chrome hardly resembles what the Lintards know as "Linux" at all. First, the whole idea of cloud computing is completely opposed to the freedoms of Open Sores. Do you have the source code to Google Docs or Gmail? The only thing less free than running closed source software on your own PC is running closed source software AND entrusting all your data to some big corporations' computers, amiright? Even RMS says so. Google isn't bringing Freedom to the desktop (or netbook), they want all of your data to belong to them. But the Lintards accuse Windows and Mac users of being slaves...

Anonymous said...

One good thing about the Chrome preview is how it crushed the freetards unrealistic expectations of what Google was doing. They wanted Google to bring broad hardware support, to make WINE perfect, to promote the Linux desktop.

Instead, Google is only supporting the limited hardware of whatever netbook they are bundling it with. WINE? Hahaha, as if Google would want people running MS Office on this thing, or for programmers to keep coding for the Windows API. And does it look like a Linux distro? It doesn't even have a window manager if all it does is run the Chrome browser. So much for the GNU/Linux/Chrome of their dreams.

Dr Loser said...

@November 21, 2009 3:44 AM

"Thanks for letting us know about 4 bugs that most of us haven't encountered on Karmic. I'll be back listing 4 bugs with other operating systems."

I predict you won't.

I'll bet that you're too dumb, or too cheap, to come up with a single Win7 or Snow Leopard bug. Or, for that matter, a VMS bug or a Solaris 7 bug (i'm making this easy for you) or a Stratus VOS bug.

Random news on Karmic bugs: Two hundred and forty six, and counting. Just to take the top one -- 453579 -- "in-place corruption of large files *without fsck or reboot* reported with linux 2.6.31-14.46 on ext4."

That is Fail upon Fail upon Fail.

Y'all lose. Go back to Finland in 1993 and write a proper operating system. (Hint: build a decent GUI on the top. Not X.)

Anonymous said...

@Ubuntu causes girl to drop out of college

Lots of

ShiftTheBlame(TM), in this case just blame the girl who had simple expectations

EveryoneShouldBeDevelopers(TM)

YouDumbStupidUser(TM)

LearnArcaneCLICommands(TM)

UseDistroX(TM)

LowerYourExpectations(TM)

RENDARR THE STATION MASTER said...

MY NETBOOK WORKSTATION RUNS CHROMEOS! FLASH CHESS IS MINE! HA HA HA HA HA!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of fail, the LH Forum is now back online. Something went wrong on their servers and it was giving 404 for no reason (the page is still there).

Richard Cranium said...

Good to know. I saw the forum down this morning and thought that your LAMP had burnt out! (nyuck nyuck).

Anonymous said...

To the freetard who wants to play the Tit-for-tat game re bugs.

Don't you get it? This is LH taking a big poke at the ManyEyes(tm) theory.

If we were all to take the F$F kool aid then we could be a denier, like you evidently are, and refuse to believe that this is a problem.

If there are a semi-infinite number of code monkeys in the world working on this stuff (or Reading Der Source), then WHY is Linux-the-userland still an amateurish hack job?

Coupled with this is the Release Early, Fail Often paradigm that FOSS loves to follow. Perhaps if Canonical worked more like the commercial enterprise that they supposedly are they would take a look at Apple and MS and see that you don't grunt out a new OS every 6 months and expect it to be more than a polished turd. QA takes TIME.

Of course if they took that time, then they'd be releasing an obsolete OS, like Debian does - and THAT only speaks to the absolute and perpetual immaturity of linux in general. The distromeisters should not have to BREAK their OS every time they bring it up to date. There has to be something wrong in happyland if regression marches in step with progression.

Anonymous said...

This is what you get when GUI guys are writing system software.


This sounds like petrus4 from linsux. He's got a real hate-on for GUIs and thinks that they're all coded by high school VB6 programmers in the main Form or something.

Anonymous said...

yeah, the old linux hater... nice post dude

Anonymous said...

hey people vote my demotivator

Anonymous said...

One good thing about the Chrome preview is how it crushed the freetards unrealistic expectations of what Google was doing. They wanted Google to bring broad hardware support, to make WINE perfect, to promote the Linux desktop.


Yeah, hehe. I'll be keeping my eye on ChromeOS for development reasons. However, its more of a curiosity than a possible business opportunity at this point.

What the freetards don't understand is that Google is just like Microsoft. They sell products, but in Google's case they're web services.

Chrome browser wasn't built because the world needed yet another browser, it was built to speed up their increasingly heavy javascript loads on said services. Likewise, ChromeOS follows in the same direction by removing ALL local apps and making it completely dependent on Google services.

Sound familiar FOSStards? Microsoft pulled this kind of ecosystem stuff in the past and it got them an anti-trust suite.

Anonymous said...

It is almost like these guys do not want their own operating system to success as long as Microsoft's business is harmed.


Exactly. Its not about producing a good OS anymore, its about:

AnythingButMicrosoft(TM)

Anonymous said...

Microsoft should get involved in Linux distribution as they'd clean up with it, just as long as they rip the gnu shit out and give us a compiler that doesn't suck ass.

I imagine that would be the event that would drive RMS from eating toe jam to children.


GOLD! (I'm not the Gold guy)

Anonymous said...

Progress Update
Just to prove that all the Django version of the TM Repository is making good progress, I present a few screenshots:

Trademarks List page

Trademark Details page

Inspector Gadget said...

Go go gadget TM repository.

Anonymous said...

You make a good point about the devolution of Evolution. Even other devs have alluded to new issues with each release ( http://keithp.com/blogs/notmuch/ ). I am starting to wonder if things took a downward plunge when notzed left...

Anonymous said...

That was some some smackdown on the APLOLRUS thread linked above. What made him so pwnd wasn't that he was merely wrong, it's that he is utterly incapable of processing criticism. He was so demonstratively wrong yet plugged along, sticking his fingers in his ears. Can you imagine working with this douche?

"Actually Mr. LOLRUS while your idea kinda works, we were looking more along the idea of this."

"No! My idea is the best because I had it! If you want it better do it yourself!"

The best was when AP was like, "Do it yourself if you think you can." and the other dude was like, "Yeah I did that already. Twice."

The exchange reminds me of another commonly used freetard tactic:

It'sSunnyOutside(TM)

Whenever someone tells you that, "It's a nice day outside," what he's really saying is, "I totally lost this argument but I'll attempt to save face by pretending I don't care and that I'm above you because my mentioning the weather indicates that I have a life beyond replying Internet comments all day (even though we all know I reply to Internet comments all day)."

We don't see this one much here due to the unapologetic hostility of the resident freetard trolls, but you'll see this one a lot on blogs run by more "sensitive" FOSS folk.

Anonymous said...

Good to know. I saw the forum down this morning and thought that your LAMP had burnt out! (nyuck nyuck).

I'm always expecting some freetard to remind me how that website RunsOnLinux(TM), just like Failogger.

At least it doesn't throw some weird error codes, it's just a 404.

The strange thing is this morning it worked for me. So I believe those errors do not happen to anyone at the same time. THis is getting weird. Oh, and this morning I changed the favicon a little bit, only now I can see the new version. I mean, what the fuck is wrong with that server?

Oh well, at least we got lulz.

Anonymous said...

Wow and I thought it was bad when the Linux cult would support Apple out of hatred towards M$.

Supporting GoogleOS means supporting Google's proprietary web apps over OpenOffice. It also means keeping your data on Google servers which locks out competitors.

But even among the cult the support is limited. A lot of them realize this is just Google promoting its online services instead of investing into the Linux ecosystem.

I really hope chrome bombs since I don't want their web apps to be promoted. I don't want to have to go through Ma Google when I need to get a document from someone.

Anonymous said...

Just to prove that all the Django version of the TM Repository is making good progress, I present a few screenshots:

Nice job friend!

Anonymous said...

I really hope chrome bombs since I don't want their web apps to be promoted. I don't want to have to go through Ma Google when I need to get a document from someone.


Meh, I say just pick your poison.

Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. all make good stuff but they're also large businesses who want to make money. The fact that Google has some of my documents on their servers scares me no more than Microsoft having my MSN contact list or Facebook knowing who me "friends" are.

Freetards originally promoted linux as an escape from the corporations. The problem was, nobody has anything to associate linux with when there's no corporate backing. So now the freetards try to paint Google, and even more ironically, IBM, as these "Daddy Warbucks" altruistic companies with deep pockets.

Anonymous said...

Nice job Ian

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu Karmic Koala


WORKS FOR ME

WorksForMe(tm)

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 11:34 AM

That TM Repository looks amazing!

(> < )__\m/

Anonymous said...

Linux is available free of cost.

Your time may be worthless (like your existence) but not the rest of ours.

Anonymous said...

But now we're back again; To start completely all over. :D

See ya' in 5000 comments. :p


See ya' 'til blogger fail

Anonymous said...

Linux is available free of cost.


Linux is only free if your time is worthless.

Anonymous said...

LinuxIsFreeBecauseMyTimeIsWorthless(tm)

Anonymous said...

http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/11/karmic-issues-that-ive-faced.html

I particularly enjoy the fact that he lost graphics on only 1 of his computers even though they all have i945 chipset.

Anonymous said...

The lintard is right, why should I waste my time playing the guitar if I can wast it writing bash scripts and LearningComputerScience(tm)???

Anonymous said...

Linux is available free of cost. Apple and Microsoft have to fall to it sooner or later.

And you can pick up free old newspapers off the street, but surprisingly, people keep paying for toilet paper.

Freetards keep having trouble assimilating these simple concepts for some reason.

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 3:25 PM

Linux will help you with your guitar playing too! It will magically teach you your scales/modes, chords/inversions, theory, etc.

: ^ D

Anonymous said...

Here's what I just posted over at $JVN:

"Delusional, Hypocritical, Goofs
Submitted by Carlton Banks on November 21, 2009 - 7:28 P.M.
You zealots go on and on about "freedom" and call Windows users "slavetards", yet you are falling all over yourselves to have G$$gle own all your data and store it on their servers.

You want a machine that requires you to sign in with your Gmail account to do anything. So, not only are you dependent on a connection to the Web to use it, but you are dependent on GOOGLE'S connection to the Web. If Gmail goes down (as it is known to do) you can't even use your G$$gle netbook.

Have fun."

Anonymous said...

^
Brought to you by:

(> < )__\m/

Anonymous said...

What is the URL for the new Django version of the TM Repository?

This is looking totally epic!

Anonymous said...


The fact that Google has some of my documents on their servers scares me no more than Microsoft having my MSN contact list or Facebook knowing who me "friends" are.


It's not a privacy concern, it's one of access.

I shouldn't have to get on the internet to access one of my files. Remember those gmail outages? I don't want to sit around holding my dick while I wait for access. Thanks but no thanks.

Anonymous said...

It'sSunnyOutside(TM)

That's commonly seen every time someone is on the losing side of an online argument, along with RollingWithThePunches(TM) and DanceMyPuppets!(TM). Other variants include LaterLosers,I'mGoingClubbing(TM) and SomethingSomethingMyGIRLFRIEND(TM). It's not lintard-specific, but it is common among them.

Anonymous said...

WTF? No touchpad scrolling whatsoever in VMWare Player.

YouDontNeedThat(TM)


: ^ /

marco75 said...

I'm wondering if anyone brought up this point in regards to cloud computing, but to my mind it has a big drawback: Applications running over the Internet are orders of magnitude slower than those running locally.
I suppose you don't think this way if you always have access to broadband, but a lot of the world (like regional Australia) has very limited access.

That's why I use Thunderbird to access my Yahoo! account, with "leave messages on server until deleted locally" checked.
It's nice to be able to access my inbox when I'm away from my computer, so that's what webmail is good for.

But even the most cut-down netbook (iView at Coles $200) can run local apps faster than web apps.

One advantage of cloud computing I can think of is that if you got used to the interface of a web app, you would be able to use it the same way from any computer anywhere in the world, irrespective of the local OS. Consistent interface is a big bonus.

Netbooks are already very cheap, and quite powerful, I don't know what kind of minimal devices Chrome OS is intended for? Those only for web and email? I wouldn't skimp on the $100 - $150 difference for the Window license, because I would always want the option of running non-web apps on it.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Microsoft just distribute Linux? They could just rip out everything and replace it with their own stuff. They could even use Windows 7 as the base for their distro.

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 6:31 PM

Because they're not freetards.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Microsoft just distribute Linux? They could just rip out everything and replace it with their own stuff. They could even use Windows 7 as the base for their distro.

Because they did Unix already. (See Xenix)

They sold off the business and moved forward.

What good would one more Linux out there accomplish. There's too much of the shit already.

Anonymous said...

Chrome OS and Android are gonna kick Windows' ass. Those two OS use Linux as their kernel.

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 7:03 PM

That's nice, now run along. You hear the grown folks talking.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahaha, the latest from HereBePenguins:


GMail works with Konqueror now sort of

Anonymous said...

And be sure not to miss this post, full of intuitive instructions:

How to rip DVDs to Theora

Anonymous said...

One thing that does annoy the piss out of me in Windows is that the built-in zip utility can't unzip more than one file at a time.

Yeah, I know I can get a third-party zip utility but that's besides the point.

Anonymous said...

WTF? No touchpad scrolling whatsoever in VMWare Player.

YouDontNeedThat(TM)


: ^ /


UseDistroVirtualBoxInstead(tm)

Not, really, mine is working with virtual box :P

Anonymous said...

yet you are falling all over yourselves to have G$$gle own all your data and store it on their servers.

G$$GLE! HAHAHAHAHA!

NICE ONE!

:P

Anonymous said...

Cloud computing.

I don't like it. I don't want my documents to be hosted in China or India or Alaska or God knows where.

I like my documents in my hard drive.

Fuck the cloud!

(new tm! :P)

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha, look at this delightfully l00ntastic nonsense I found, from March, 2009 BoycotNovell.com:

Novell Releases Poisonware Factory 2.0 (MonoDevelop)

Anonymous said...

I urge the hatertards to keep the number of comments to a minimum. Concentrate on quality rather than quantity. Less is more. When in doubt, don't post. Remember, blogger has trouble if you post too many comments.

And, no more of that squishing words together, please. It was never really funny, and it got old long ago. How many of those are you tard boys going to make up, anyway?

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 8:06 PM

F$F shill

Anonymous said...

You know what I use to hate about Oombooboo Felchy Ferret? How that useless fucking piece of shit Nautilus would screw up even the most simplest of things like not being able to keep the tree view synchronized with the list pane. Talk about amateur hour. Idiots.

Anonymous said...


Linux community seems to be attacking its own people


When you hear about Puppy Linux, you may get the image of something cute and cuddly, but the proponents of Puppy Linux are anything but cute and cuddly. They seem to be giving this Caitlyn broad a lot of trouble. Why this woman still sticks with Linux is beyond all comprehension.

Anonymous said...

I could probably come up with about a half-dozen reasons why Windows or Mac OS or *BSD is unusable trash. The only real reason this blog gets any traffic is because Linux bashing is so rare and Linux fanboys are so easy to troll.

Nice effort. Here's a nickel. Go write yourself a real blog...consider the nickel a commission.

Anonymous said...

The only real reason this blog gets any traffic is because Linux bashing is so rare

When you live in your mother's basement suite and only see the light of day when you need more Cheetos, burritos, and a clean set of clothes "Mom laid out for you", you have a tendency to only see a shallow, narrow perspective of the world around you.

When you do grow up, move out, and get a job that pays better than your stock boy's position at the local warehouse, then, and only then will you see that Loonix bashing is quite common and that your best not to admit that you use it lest someone bigger than you (so, a 13 yr old girl) kick you in the groin and make fun of your pimply weasel face.

Anonymous said...

Go ahead and list those reasons why those other highly successful operating systems are unusable and trash.

I could use some laughs.

Anonymous said...

Go ahead and list those reasons why those other highly successful operating systems are unusable and trash.

Well, according to him (I'm sure), it's because:

LinuxMakesYouAllSmartAndStuff(tm)

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 8:27 PM

GTFO. You don't make any rules here, freetard.

Who are you, $JVN?

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 8:06 PM

F$F shill


BULLSHIT!

Anonymous said...

I could probably come up with about a half-dozen reasons why Windows or Mac OS or *BSD is unusable trash.


And yet, somehow they dominate the market and are used by everyone to operate successful businesses, schools and desktops at home.

Are you saying that YOU struggle to use Windows or OSX while the rest of the world seems to have figured it out?

Anonymous said...

@ November 21, 2009 11:26 PM

Hahaha, we need to start hitting the freetards with:

NotSmartEnoughForWindows(TM)
NotSmartEnoughForOSX(TM)
WorksForMe(TM)

Anonymous said...

Where is that new (TM) Repositor page anyways?

Anonymous said...

I could probably come up with about a half-dozen reasons why Windows or Mac OS or *BSD is unusable trash.

I have yet to see Linux on the desktop in use by working professionals. I've seen it used by college students but no one using it professionally.

ThisWillBeYearOfTheLinuxDesktop(TM)

Anonymous said...

I have to admit: one my secret vices is to read planet Ubuntu.

It is always really hilarious.

They constantly post blog entries from big parties and these so-called LUGs. It is almost like they believe that if they just party enough, there will be a stable and mature release just around the corner.

They also give the impression that no one of them is actually a programmer but merely a hang-around, evangelist or a zealot.

It is like instead of being good at those difficult things, such as fixing bugs and programming, we are good at blogging!

Anonymous said...

A female freetard's blog, which I found through your PlanetUbuntu link.

I saw this blog fairly recently also, but can't recall how.

Anonymous said...

Where is that new (TM) Repositor page anyways?


I'm still working on it. It'll be up sometime next week once I've got all the templates finalized and the project properly deployed.

Who knows. Maybe I'll even release it on Google Code...under the BSD license, of course. Eat it GPL!

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, we need to start hitting the freetards with:

NotSmartEnoughForWindows(TM)
NotSmartEnoughForOSX(TM)
WorksForMe(TM)



Agreed. Its incredibly hypocritical to say "Windows is for idiot users" and then turn around and say "I couldn't get ___ to work".

I'd really love to know what sorts of things set these guys off? Too many "wifi connected" messages popping up all the time?

Anonymous said...

@November 22, 2009 12:37 AM

You are the man sir!

Anonymous said...

From looking at her site, separate from her blog, she actually seems to know her stuff.

She's a CS student and has some PDFs of some of her papers online.

She's in Germany, it seems in European countries you find these female freetards, who actually know what they're talking about otherwise, but they somehow get roped into the F$F cult.

Here in the States, the few freetarded women you see don't know a damn thing about computers whatsoever, but like to be down with a (any) cause.

Anonymous said...

@November 22, 2009 12:37 AM

You are the man sir!

November 22, 2009 12:40 AM


I second that!

Anonymous said...

@ November 22, 2009 12:40 AM

"I'd really love to know what sorts of things set these guys off? Too many "wifi connected" messages popping up all the time?"

Gold!

Anonymous said...

God I was really disappointed to see that Chrome uses X. I really would like X defenders to have some competition.

Fucking Linux, it will disappoint you even if you hate it.

Anonymous said...

Since switching him he does not call or bother me with fixing his computer. Now if only the others would take note, as I am tired of fixing Windows screw ups by them all.


The reason you hear about Windows "screw ups" is because the OS is so prolific. When a billion people use your software, they're going to find problems; hell, look at facebook bugs on a daily basis.

I'd imagine the dude never calls because his computer has become a paperweight. It literally does nothing so there's nothing left to screw up.

Anonymous said...

I managed to get the RSS working on LH Forum. As of now it only grabbed the latest post from Piestar. LHB and Jerkface Playhouse are still waiting.

Considering the 404s of yesterday I'm impressed the RSS grabber worked out of the box.

I'm making some minor changes to the website design, polishing it up a bit, adding small neat details (you have a different post icon for the RSS feeds and normal posts). I've removed some code that was useless to the new design, this should lower the load on the server. Also you would notice some sections are gone, I've merged two sections and removed others (even the TM section, since there's the Django app in the making).

And now let's get back to cooking.

Anonymous said...

Here's Chris' (Lunduke's sidekick) blog:

bin-false.org

Can someone please stop by and tell him how annoying he is?

Anonymous said...

I fucked my usual cougar earlier this morning.

Anonymous said...

http://blog.lydiapintscher.de

Wow, she's deleted my comment. Those clowns flee the truth like a plague.

Yossarian UK said...

I know 100% that Ubuntu is ready for prime time everyday users as I have rescued various friends Malware infected / unbootable / blue screen crashing Windows xp/vista installs.

The type of people I have replaced Windows with Ubuntu are people who don't really know how windows works (probably how they screwed machines in the 1st place)

I have done this for 3 couples and a few other friends - they used to call me constantly because Windows freaked out again, not one of them have had any issues running ubuntu, none have reported a single crash and (amazingly) none have any virus /malware issues any more.

In fact the gf of one of my friends upgraded ubuntu versions - she had no idea what she was doing (she though it was a normal update) - Update was 100% success ....

Anonymous said...

A female freetard's blog, which I found through your PlanetUbuntu link.

I saw this blog fairly recently also, but can't recall how.


I'm really, really sorry. It's sad but true that Germany's universities have become a cozy breeding ground for freetards.

I once briefly enjoyed the "bliss" of studying computer science at the Technical University Kaiserslautern (home of Knoppix). On my first day, I went to the CS faculty to drop off some things. There I "eavesdropped" on a conversation between a freetard and a printing shop. He wanted to have flyers for a local freetard event printed and tried to persuade the person at the other end of the line that they better support Inkscape soon, or else they'll go out of business.

Yossarian UK said...
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Yossarian UK said...

Was wondering mr 'Linux hater' have you ever tried a distro that ins't ubuntu ?

Opensuse/mandriva might be more suitable for you...

Anonymous said...

Was wondering mr 'Linux hater' have you ever tried a distro that ins't ubuntu ?

Opensuse/mandriva might be more suitable for you...


Man, that's like asking someone to choose a venereal disease.

Anonymous said...

He already commented on the suckiness of OpenSuse UI. And Mandriva? Better try Faildora, at least you get more lulz out of it.

Anonymous said...

Opensuse/mandriva might be more suitable for you...

UseDistroX(TM)

Anonymous said...

Sigh... just updated my test system to Krunkic Koala bugbuntu. where the fuck is my task bar? Kicker, task, notifications.. poof. hahaha

Dr Loser said...

@November 22, 2009 5:33 AM

Was wondering mr 'Linux hater' have you ever tried a distro that ins't ubuntu ?

Opensuse/mandriva might be more suitable for you...


"Man, that's like asking someone to choose a venereal disease."

------------

(Resisting the temptation to add, "I'll take the brown one...") No fair to venereal diseases. These days you can take medicine for most of them, and they won't come back automatically in six months' time.

There aren't enough Happy Pills in the world to cure a Linux Desktop Leper.

Very sweet patronizing tone, though, isn't it? "We've got lots of other crap -- just rummage around until you find something that might be more suitable for you..."

Clearly the loon has never tried Windows 98. It might be more suitable for him. It's certainly chock-full of useful applications (many free!), more stable, and blessedly free of X.

Anonymous said...

Here in the States, the few freetarded women you see don't know a damn thing about computers whatsoever, but like to be down with a (any) cause.

And in US, they like sex, at least. ;-D

Anonymous said...

And just like you're not necessarily an atheist if you slam the door on a JW, you aren't necessarily a Wintard if you refuse F$F dogma.


Awesome analogy!

Mike said...

Anoybody knows which platform blogger is running on?

Anonymous said...

Blogger runs on Android Chrome.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous making the LH Forum:

I've got a honest to god paid for vBulletin 4.0 license and nothing to do with it. I'll even host everything, I just don't have time sysop it.

Interested?

wintard@freetardpedia.net

Anonymous said...

Blogger runs on 100% FAIL.

You'll see when we get to the bX-t14bci.

Anonymous said...

BloggerRunsOnBX-t14bci(TM)

Anonymous said...


I know 100% that Ubuntu is ready for prime time everyday users as I have rescued various friends Malware infected / unbootable / blue screen crashing Windows xp/vista installs.


100% ready when it breaks this much hardware with an update?
http://www.jfplayhouse.com/2009/11/zdnet-ignores-ubuntu-910-upgrade-fiasco.html

A better way to prevent your friends from getting malware is to lock them into a limited user account. Or teach them to only download software from safe sites and not to clicky-clicky on everything that comes through email.

Anonymous said...


I know 100% that Ubuntu is ready for prime time everyday users as I have rescued various friends Malware infected / unbootable / blue screen crashing Windows xp/vista installs.


My mission in life is to convert as many people as possible.

Technology and Linux are not means to an end for me. Linux is religion to me and technology is means to a nirvana obtainable from my religion.

Anonymous said...

Something I realized; People who claim to have converted their friends to linux ALWAYS say "I set it up for them and they've had no problems since".

Why are YOU setting it up for them? Why not just tell them to "install linux"? If its so easy and "100% ready for primetime" then why are you even TOUCHING their computer?

Anonymous said...

How to fix Windows Update.

Is this a joke? Has this ever happened to anyone?

What about the breakage of updates in Ubuntu? Is there a way to fix the "bulletproof X" when a new kernel update comes out and screws your configuration and you have to reinstall the nvidia driver? No, I'm not gonna stick with their "open" version of the driver, because that sucks, I want the driver from nVidia. I can have it in Windows and OSX, and fuck it works on those platforms, why would I have to get a third party driver from a bunch of morons that can't even get the updates right?

Back on topic, how the fuck do you screw Windows Update? How is it possible? I've never seen it happen in my entire life.

Anonymous said...

I have done this for 3 couples and a few other friends - they used to call me constantly because Windows freaked out again, not one of them have had any issues running ubuntu, none have reported a single crash and (amazingly) none have any virus /malware issues any more.

Your are not a true friend.

Anonymous said...

@ November 22, 2009 8:43 AM

Freetardinnen aren't free and open with their boxes?

Anonymous said...

Today's rantings from $JVN:

Chrome's Mission: Making Windows Obsolete

He has the predictable nonsense about how LinuxRunsTheStockMarket(TM), LinuxRunsTivo(TM), etc.

This is getting boring again.


: ^ /

Anonymous said...

Is this a joke? Has this ever happened to anyone?

There were a few times in the late SP1/early SP2 era where I needed to purge the Windows Update cache. I think it was usually due to a power failure or other interruption during the update process, and I recall there being a documented case of an update forcing the issue under certain circumstances.

But that was years ago and purging the download cache is a simple process. I never needed to resort to regsvr or catroot, and I've never witnessed Vista Update destroying itself.

Anonymous said...

Whoops meant to include "XP" somewhere in that sentence where I was talking about SP1/SP2.

Anonymous said...

I had major problems with the Vista SP1 and SP2 updates:

SP1 would get to 99% done and then encounter an error and rollback. That one was annoying but not as bad as:

SP2. SP2 did the same thing, but got stuck in an endless cycle of needing to be restarted, eventually I had to reformat.

Anonymous said...

A nice change of pace, a Computer World blogger who isn't a freetard:

Preston Gralla: Google Chrome release: Microsoft comes out a winner

Of course, there are freetards infesting his comments, telling him how "wrong" he is.

: ^ D

Anonymous said...

Its pretty clear from the comments on $JVN and Preston Gralla blogs that the freetards have no issue with proprietary software. They'll happily put all their trust in the closed-source Google services such as GMail, Google Apps, Google Maps, etc.

For all the bleating about freedom, open source, how evil proprietary software is, it really just boils down to:

AnythingButMicrosoft(TM)

Anonymous said...

Instead, what Google is saying that, for most users, most of the time, Windows is obsolete. And, it's not just Windows, Google is telling us that we don't need Office, Outlook, and all the other day-in, day-out Windows applications either.

Not sure, but I know some guys who are real lintards and even those are wondering whether SJVN is on crack or something.
Dunno but you won't even have a music play in chrome os so hf playing youtube songs. ( if flash works, dunno ). But yeah, certainly a freaking browser on a netbook for some hundred bucks is going to kill Windows. Really, SJVN, where to get that stuff you're smoking?

Anonymous said...

Guys, meet me in the Computer Action Show forums, they're live right now. I'm bad-mouthing ChromeOS.

I'm in there as Carlton_Banks

here

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha, Lunduke is actually ridiculing ChromeOS.

Of course, his bumbling sidekick thinks it's cool.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe we've missed this one so far:

ChromeO$

Anonymous said...

Some freetard Mike_Hawk said .NET is "completely unsuitable for scientific computing" and called it something designed for CRUD development (what ever the fuck that means).

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I was the one attempting to tell that dumbass that Python is not the only programming language in the world.

(I was posting as Dudley)

Anonymous said...

lol he called MIT students "computer scientists" and everyone else "code monkeys"

Anonymous said...

CRUD is a ridiculous acronym for "Create Read Update Delete".

He's basically trying to malign .Net for having the ability to connect to databases.

He's probably some 14 year old freetard, the way he kept babbling about C# being good "if you want to be a code monkey" and Python is good for "Computer Science".

PythonMakesYouAComputerScientist(TM)

: ^ /

Anonymous said...

Are you guys in there now? Let's give ourselves (TM) names so we can find each other.

Anonymous said...

yeah he should stick with his freetard language that can't connect to databases. python is for fags

Anonymous said...

Well i couldn't take all that star trek talk on CAS

Anonymous said...

It wasn't CAS, it was their nerd fest show that comes on afterward

Anonymous said...

.NET is a bit on the slow side for doing raw number crunching. Benchmarks show that Java is a great deal faster (while still providing the benefits of a garbage collection). Anyone trying to do scientific computing in pure python is a moron, because there isn't much of anything slower and it doesn't thread properly at all thanks to the GIL. I don't know about how scientific package like numpy stack up though.

Anonymous said...

yeah he should stick with his freetard language that can't connect to databases. python is for fags


Uh, I'm building the TM Repository in Django which is Python.

What I think the guy was saying about .NET being suitable for scientific programming was that C# doesn't have any functional aspects like Python does.

I guess he hasn't heard of F-fuckin-sharp. Its almost a pure functional language while Python only has minor functional aspects.

Some sicentist!

Anonymous said...

Guys, meet me in the Computer Action Show forums, they're live right now. I'm bad-mouthing ChromeOS.


I'm not sure if that's warranted since its not even out yet.

However, denounce the freetards claiming it will dominate the world due to its startup times or whatever.

Anonymous said...

@6:12

in that regards you are mistaken. There is a Microsoft provided ask for c# that will compile your c# application down into a unit that runs natively on your video accelerator, in addition to the high frequency math kit for xna that makes math in c# many orders of magnitude faster than anything you could accomplish in java.

Also, chromeos is to google as javaos was to sun. Aka, the beginning of the end.

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha, good job, whoever posted as Weezie on $JVN!

I'll stop by there later as Bentley.

Anonymous said...

@"many orders of magnitude faster"
I do not think it means what you think it means. Its not possible for an algorithm to be exponentially slower than itself on another implementation.
Also, the Java Hotspot VM is mature and is on the whole no worse than the CLR.

Anonymous said...

I think he means parallel processing, not scientific computing.

Anonymous said...

Where is this C# compiler that will run your code on the GPU??? I'm a .NET fan but I call BS.

Anonymous said...

I had major problems with the Vista SP1 and SP2 updates

This reminds me of a problem posted at a forum regarding IE some years ago. Oddly enough, I was the only one there who recognized the strange behaviors described by the poster and, amidst the chorus of "install Firefox", arrived at the conclusion that he had been overclocking the CPU all along...

... and I was right.

BlameMicrosoftForBrokenHardware(TM)

Anonymous said...

@ November 22, 2009 8:12 PM

I'm afraid I don't follow what you're saying, friend.

There's nothing wrong with my hardware.

I normally don't have any problems whatsoever with Windows, but when I do I'm not going to pretend they don't exist.

That's what separates us from the freetards.

Anonymous said...

And don't try to use TMs on me like I'm some fucking freetard. I invented about 10 of the TMs in the repository.

Anonymous said...

I think you are BSing. I had no problems with Vista and I really doubt anyone did.

Anonymous said...

Transient or difficult to reproduce problems are often due to hardware faults. I see them all the time.

To dismiss the possibility is to waste time looking for a software glitch that may not be there.

KISS applies, and wisdom guides.

Anonymous said...

And don't try to use TMs on me like I'm some fucking freetard. I invented about 10 of the TMs in the repository.

Sorry but I thought you were one of those LinuxSolvesAllTheProblems(TM) loonies, but, honestly, that's pretty much the impression I was getting.

And, yes, I do notice those registry/versions problems surrounding Windows Update but, hey, it's still fun to watch as those inept GNU advocates struggle to come up with a response, given how much the lot of them know about software in general. ;)

Anonymous said...

A organization affiliated with the FSF got accepted into the exclusive club of people who are drafting a top secret copyright treaty. If you ever thought the FSF wasn't a corporate pawn, you should give up now.

Anonymous said...

Bing "Microsoft research accelerator project"

and get your gpu accelerated c# sdk:)

Anonymous said...

To dismiss the possibility is to waste time looking for a software glitch that may not be there.

True, and this is often what those zany GNU advocates overlook when they yammer about "BSOD". Rather than just an annoyance, the so-called "BSOD" (kernel panic) is actually the result of the NT kernel encountering a problem and halting the operating system in order to protect the user from potential problems. Usually a kernel panic has a lot to do with poorly written drivers or bad hardware, and blaming Windows for the blue screen help none of those.

Anonymous said...

I think he means parallel processing, not scientific computing.


If that's what he means, there really isn't ANY language totally suitable for easy parallel computing. in the Java camp there's the experimental Fortress and .NET has the parallel framework.

Anders gave a talk about it and that's basically the next step for most languages. Abstracting the "what from the how" so that you say "process all these records" rather than "do it using a nested for loop that can't be parallel-ized.

Anonymous said...

I would try Debian, as soon as Ian Murcock, having divorced his wife Debra, marries a girl named Leslie, and renames his distro in her honour.

Incidentally, I could not get the page with comment #4400; Blogger threw me an error every time.
*sighs*

Anonymous said...

I think you are BSing. I had no problems with Vista and I really doubt anyone did.

Uh oh ... I Windows user is using freetard logic:

WorksForMe(TM)

Based on market feedback you were in the minority. It was a hiccup and one that I'm sure they'll want us all to forget about soon enough.

Having said that Windows 7 is a complete recovery and works like a charm. The market is also reflecting this.

Anonymous said...


Its pretty clear from the comments on $JVN and Preston Gralla blogs that the freetards have no issue with proprietary software. They'll happily put all their trust in the closed-source Google services such as GMail, Google Apps, Google Maps, etc.

For all the bleating about freedom, open source, how evil proprietary software is, it really just boils down to:

AnythingButMicrosoft(TM)


Exactly.

You would suppose that Freetards would fiercely oppose Google and Chrome. It fights against everything they believe in. But consistency and Freetards do not get along. Just like consistency and Linux do not get along.

Anonymous said...

Incidentally, I could not get the page with comment #4400; Blogger threw me an error every time.
*sighs*


It's the bX-t14bci(TM), and we will see it again in 4400 comments. It's a known Blogger bug, but since at Google everyone is busy jerking off ChromeOS, we'll never see it fixed.

If anything bad happens, we have our forum now.

Anonymous said...

You would suppose that Freetards would fiercely oppose Google and Chrome. It fights against everything they believe in. But consistency and Freetards do not get along. Just like consistency and Linux do not get along.


It just confirms that freetards picked a team, their team is losing, so they'll champion anybody who doesn't play for the "other" team (microsoft).

Anonymous said...

This post is really good!
I mean it. Keep doing this great job!.

Anonymous said...

It just confirms that freetards picked a team, their team is losing, so they'll champion anybody who doesn't play for the "other" team (microsoft).

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Anonymous said...

@November 23, 2009 12:58 AM

That's a fun stance, taking into account RM$ has already declared how cloud computing and web services are evil, unholy and against freedom.

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