Thursday, January 13, 2011

Moar flames

Jeez, linux can only handle 5000 comments? What's up with that? MySQL FTW! Carry on.

5000 flames:

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Anonymous said...

First !!!

Anonymous said...

SECOND!!!!

Anonymous said...

Third? Anyways: Great to see that he's still alive!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Linux Hater. Yeah, Linux is still shit.

Anonymous said...

Fifth!!

Anonymous said...

Hate on!

Anonymous said...

IT'S ALIVE

Anonymous said...

Linux Hater should have done this FOSS style and posted something like

"6 months and no updates?! No it's not dead. I'm working really hard (even though there have been no CVS commits since 2008). But that's because I'm switching to SVN I mean git. I'm also taking this opportunity to rewrite everything from scratch! So stay tuned! It'll be better than evar!"

Badger said...

Nice!

Anonymous said...

Now wait for the freetards that have LHB in their RSS to reappear..

Anonymous said...

Fuck Google and their shitty "products" and their AdSense scam.

Anonymous said...

http://www.srblair.com/2009/04/google-adsense-scam/

Well, Google didn't get rich by writing a lot of cheques.

But he's right about one thing. Google has made a lot of money off of other peoples content and data.

In the next couple years as content moves to iPad, Silverlight etc, Google results will be just more wikipedia mirrors and spam sites.

Anonymous said...

4987 more posts until Blogger chokes..

Anonymous said...

4986 more posts until Blogger chokes..

Anonymous said...

In reference to John Barremore in Houston, there is not only the fun of striking "a blow against corporate monsters" but the always present annoyance of corporate apologists. In your misleading comment you talk about "two sides to every controversy", "a few tidbits to form an opinion", "Google does not allow Adsense to be placed on undeveloped domains without substance and content", "the judge ruled without a full understanding of the TOS", "Aaron Greenspan becomes the hero who slew the dragon and you the reader are held in awe by a story filled with more drama than facts" - all of these are things you present with no basis in fact but simply pull out of your corporation loving rear end. There is no two sides to every controversy, we all know you wouldn't be interested in a mugger's side of robbing you, so shut up - it's easy to use this often used misdirection when you are dead wrong but want a way to not admit it. Unless Google is paying you to promote propaganda for them, you're a fool - Google doesn't love you no matter how much you tow their line or brown nose them without their knowledge, so why don't you stop? Really watching working class people throw other working class people under a bus and then grovel at the feet of wealth class entities tells anyone watching what the problem is in this society - people who admire entities that make money above doing the right thing. This man earned Google money under a contract that stated that money would be split between him and Google, Google did not see fit to honor that contract nor explain why it did not honor it. This person sought after such an explanation and feeling it is above such a thing to lessor people Google did not provide one until brought to a court where they stood as an equal to people they normally screw over to loud applause from people like you. If you have an inferiority complex where you have to grovel at Google's feet and accept your place as a lessor non-billionaire then that's fine for you, you really show your lack of integrity when you have to scowl at people who don't take your sell out stance, with nothing outside of assumptive reasoning to boot. You corporate butt wipers are disgusting, one great innovation would be segmenting you useless butt wipes off in your own society so the rest of us can be assertive while you just wander in circles not knowing whose butt to kiss.

Anonymous said...

Good people can get caught on the wrong side of a ban. The David vs. Goliath angle makes for a good story, but I'm not buying the Google is evil aspect.

Google says don't be evil and I'm with them to the bitter end!!!

Anonymous said...

@January 13, 2011 5:29 PM

tl;dr

Anonymous said...

It's creepy how far the comments go to stand up for Google. "They can't be wrong. It must be your fault. It just must! Google is my friend! He wouldn't do such a thing!"

I guess these are the paid M$ $hill$ I've heard so much about, except it's Goog£e.

Even if some of these guys did violate some obscure clause, if the payment is $100 or something, "do no evil" says give them the benefit of the doubt and hand them the money even if you're terminating the contract. Otherwise it looks like you're trying to fleece some naive college students who lack the wherewithal to defend themselves.

Anonymous said...

If you want to make money from Google, buy their stock or go work for them. They are not the fucking internet santa clause.

Anonymous said...

I thought Adwords was a waste even before these charges, but withholding payment to somebody who grinded out $100 over a 6 month span is pretty low.

BTW, this behavior is pretty common in the advertising business. It's a lot like software piracy. "You didn't give me a real product so I don't have to pay you. Take me to court." They'll hold this opinion even if they took out full page ads in expensive glossy magazines.

Anonymous said...

Goog£e -- I like it.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who wants to know a little more about the Google Swindle Machine needs to look at http://www.musictechpolicy.com/ .
The Register has published some stuff too but I can not go to find it right now.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes it feels like Linux was written by the cast of "Jersey Shore."

Anonymous said...

@ January 13, 2011 5:29 PM

A link to the blog that is from would have been nice.

Anonymous said...

Blooger noms links.

Eat this one, google said...

Google profits from piracy

Anonymous said...

Thom Holwerda on osnews rants:

Geeks railed against this mentality. Web standards were important, and IE ignored those to a great degree, while Firefox adhered to them - this way, IE hindered the development of a standards-based web. The people who rallied against coding for Firefox sound suspiciously like the people currently promoting H.264: why code for anything else than H.264 when it is the de-facto standard? Why think of the open source world (which is the very motor of much of the web as you see it today) from which we profited so much?

As anyone reading OSNews regularly can attest, I'm no die-hard open source fanatic. However, die-hard or no, it is undeniable that without the vigour of the open source community, the development of the web would have been a lot slower. Firefox is the single-biggest thing to have happened to the web, and now that the Apples and Microsofts of this world have reaped the benefits of Mozilla's hard work, we should just kick them to the curb?



Man! Is this guy a loon or what?

All the real innovations in browsers were made in the 90s by MS and Netscape.

Firefox just was more standards compliant and had less exploits.

NS and IE were A LOT more innovative and bold: Tables, Javascript, AJAX. What has Firefox brought to the table? I can only think of its own plugin framework, but it has nothing to do with the web as a whole.

Anonymous said...

OK, not sure about tables. Replace them with frames.

Anonymous said...

I love this post on osnews:

link

This loon makes it sound as if the internet was created by Stallman's basement army.

TCP/IP was developed by academics and students


Eh, yeah. These academics were paid by the government.

the NCSA HTTPD, from which Apache derives, was Open Source

NCSA HTTP was paid for by the government!

So, if the government pays for something, I must thank the FOSS guys for it then?

Anonymous said...

You moronic, you just plain stupid! See on your very own fucking blog, see how much comment before saying max! stupid shit! damn idiot!

Anonymous said...

January 14, 2011 4:36 AM

A wild Freetard has appeared!

Anonymous said...

Firefox is the single-biggest thing to have happened to the web

LOL.

All the real innovations in browsers were made in the 90s by MS and Netscape.

Thank goodness for you, sir! I'd even throw in AOL as playing a role in introducing Joe Sixpack to the web. Their all-in-one McSoftware included a proprietary browser, which was later replaced with the default IE. In between, many people used that software to download their first copy of Netscape, which if I recall took several hours over dialup to do. Remember, nearly everybody had AOL.

I guess future mass-murderers like Holwerda have no sense of what things were really like in the mid to late 90's. (And I can't believe I'm coming off as some sort of nostalgic old-timer here).

Anonymous said...

I guess future mass-murderers like Holwerda

I am not a fan of that guy, but..


What do you mean with that?

Anonymous said...

Works for me!

kurkosdr said...

The main reason this blog looks dead is because linux is still plagued by the same problems it had in 2003 (1999?). The sound is still a mess, x windows still spoils everything, and support for new devices still comes with the next kernel update, if it does (think the debacle with the sandy bridge's gpu).

So, the more hates you write about linux, the less there is to hate on, much like when writing why communism doesn't work.

BTW, imagine if Windows would have been as vulnerable to viruses as it was back in 2003... The loontards would have made it their new motto. But it's not. It caught up and even surpassed linux, while linux stayed pretty much the same. It's called progress, loontards!

Tux Sux said...

All the real innovations in browsers were made in the 90s by MS and Netscape.

Indeed. People also tend to forget that Netscape was the one that originally subverted the standardization process with their proprietary HTML extensions and JavaScript. Then IE was "non standards compliant" because they didn't adopt the thing wholesale, including the blink tag.

Not helping was a weak fledgling W3C that basically anointed whatever Netscape was doing as a standard (though to be obsoleted "later"). It's also largely Netscape's fault that it took so long for CSS to take off as the browser failed spectacularly when trying to render it.

But, somehow, most of the blame gets put on IE, which probably had the most objectively standards compliant browser between versions 4 and 5.5, especially the Mac version. Opera came up a lot in discussion, but it wasn't nearly as good as proponents said it was. Otherwise people were comparing IE to buggy, crashy Mozilla alphas, which was just ridiculous.

Not that I'm saying that Netscape or IE should have been standards compliant. Just the opposite, really, as the W3C were just as slow moving as they are today. The W3C only seems to act when they're on the cusp of irrelevance. The only noteworthy thing they've done I can think of is creating CSS, but they still gave us a decade of pain by not providing a reference implementation. And they took too long to release the first revision.

Anonymous said...

continued:

Really? And people wonder why no one takes the F$F and RM$ seriously?

Oh and just in case you miss this link read their article on The Javascript Trap!! zOMG the interbuttz is making me run unfree javascript codez!! FREE DUH CODEZ GOOGLE!!

Anonymous said...

WTF so blogger leaves the second half but chops off the first half so here's the first part of the two part post to get around blogger's nomnoming:

LOL check out this old but hilariously article from the FSF.

Anonymous said...

So apparently you can't say "noscript" in a post or blogger will nomnom it every single time.

Anonymous said...

Or at least apparently saying "noscipt" with a link triggers the nomnoming. test.

Anonymous said...

Okay, so I really don't know why my original post with those two links was nomnomed like 50 times. Must be the side-effect of being PoweredByLoonix(TM).

Anonymous said...

Okay, so I really don't know why my original post with those two links was nomnomed like 50 times.

Because this a Google product. The lotto winners.. errr.. Google employees.. are out on their scooters and too busy to fix comment.g

Anonymous said...

Stallman is right about the "javascript-trap" though.

If you're a true FOSS cultist and CS software is worse than murder for you, then accepting highly obfuscated Javascript code is hypocritical.

Anonymous said...

No, Stallman is only "right" if you a lunatic. Besides, most of that obfuscating is not to make "teh codez closed" but to increase the speed of serving pages.

Anonymous said...

It's great that we have the FSF to remind us what's really important in life. If the middle ages were to return, the FSF would take the role of the holy inquisition, without a doubt.

Anonymous said...

I never thought that Stallman had any arguments to begin with. But this "think piece" of his ...

The advantages of free software

"People outside the free software movement frequently ask about the practical advantages of free software. It is a curious question.

Nonfree software is bad because it denies your freedom. Thus, asking about the practical advantages of free software is like asking about the practical advantages of not being handcuffed."

Anonymous said...

Thus, asking about the practical advantages of free software is like asking about the practical advantages of not being handcuffed.

But what if you like to be handcuffed?

Anonymous said...

Once you realize that that's what's at stake with nonfree software, you won't need to ask what practical advantages free software has.

What's at stake? The ability to actually get work done as opposed to having to diddled around in someone else's hobby project just to get it working?

Anonymous said...

Every time you use Photoshop, RM$ kills a Haitian Child.

That is what is at stake here.

Anonymous said...

And nothing of value was lost?

Anonymous said...

I guess future mass-murderers like Holwerda

Holwerda is a bit of a loon, but future mass murderer? I don't know. He's not displaying the warning signs that Loughner, MikeeUSA, Penguin Pete, Race Guy, and Adam King have.

At best he is just a run-of-the-mill mildly autistic jackass with a blog, like the douche from Phoronix, not a mass murdering schizoid.

Anonymous said...

Here's an idea for the FSF: Create an app store modelled on Apple's - but software only gets approved if it's Free. Then sell computers that will not run any software unless it's from the FSF App Store, thus ensuring that users are protected from the pernicious evil of non-free software.

I think this takes the GPL to its logical conclusion, where you can't use any application that RMS hasn't blessed, and he can revoke his blessing any time. Remember when Debian had his blessing? Not any more - there's a "nonfree" repository, you see. Now you have to use GNewsense, and no, you don't get an MP3 decoder or a H.264 video player.

The next logical step is a mechanism to prevent non-free software running at all. The FSF could call it Digital Rights Management, because it manages your rights to software freedom, digitally.

Anonymous said...

The next logical step is a mechanism to prevent non-free software running at all.

They already have that, it is called the HURD.

For troll points you could fork the HURD and write a shim for nvidia and fglrx.

Anonymous said...

I think this takes the GPL to its logical conclusion

no, taking the GPL to it's logical conclusion would mean that all software would automatically because property of the Free Software Foundation the moment it is written.

Anonymous said...

I am glad I am not alone in loathing Thom Holwerda and OSNews.

But he's not a threat to anybody. Just the truth.

Anonymous said...

2.34pm, maybe you're right, but perhaps FSF DRM is a necessary intermediate step towards that utopian future? Like, Communism is the goal, but you have to put up with Leninism/Stalinism in order to get there.

Also I have found a security hole in Hurd. It can run one non-free program: http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/Debian/hurd-i386/non-free/utils.0.0.htm

Needs moar DRM.

Anonymous said...

Ultimately, what Stallman dreams of is moral and political power.

"Department of Codes Secretary Stallman announced a selection of nine projects totaling more than $187 million to improve sound support in the Hurd."

Anonymous said...

"By investing taxpayer dollars in next generation audio software here at home, we're not only creating new job opportunities now, but helping lay a new foundation to keep American FOSS programmers competitive in the 21st century global marketplace," said Secretary Stallman, after leaving a toejam breakfast summit with President Kucinich.

John Titor said...

Washington D.C. - U.S. Secretary of Codez Richard Stallman announced today that the Department of Codez has closed the Microsoft campus in Richmond.

Ura J. Ackass said...

In other news: Richard M. Stallman admitted to watching cat videos with Adobe's Flash Plugin and was immediately escorted to the pillory at the center of town where he will remain for the next ten days.

TheWHAMBurglar said...

In order to use an operating system visually impaired persons rely on the annunciation of on screen text. Basically, what windows is in focus and where there cursor is has to be audible and stated by the operating system.

http://vinux.org.uk/
Here is a Linux distro specifically for the blind, that does not out put audio. I tried the version for VMWare, it can no handle VMWare's audio mixer. Hence, audio output is unreliable at best. They even mention this in the user guide!

TheWHAMBurglar said...

All hail the glorious return of Linux Hater! lol

Digital Atheist said...

all hail the gutter splint holding together my boxer's fracture after my rather rude downsizing. all hail the bottle of vicodin, all hail my bourbon. FUCK LINUX AND FREETARDS!

Anonymous said...

FUCK LINUX AND FREETARDS!

I'll drink to that!

But remember: don't drink and drive.
Drink and fly, cause that's fucking awesome!!

Anonymous said...

IT IS NOW 2011.

WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?

Anonymous said...

IT IS NOW 2011.
WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?
WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?
WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?
WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?
IT IS NOW 2011.

Anonymous said...

all hail the gutter splint holding together my boxer's fracture after my rather rude downsizing.

Okay, what happened?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like he found out his boss was sleeping with his wife. Sorry, dude.

Hugh Jazz said...

Linux set to lose big on Jeopardy in publicity stunt.

Anonymous said...

Ken Jennings, freetard buster.

No One Cares said...

KDE IS PEOPLE!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thanks LH for opening a new post.

In other news, LG: Windows Phone 7 "visibility is less than we expected"

Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Meh, it is just a phone. It's not like it is the most secure Operating System ever like Chrome OS.

Tux Sux said...

A post on CNet points to a study that suggests that Windows 98, an OS that's long dead, manages to outpace Windows Phone 7 when it comes to traffic

Ouch!

Anonymous said...

LOLoogle

Anonymous said...

Windows Phone 7 has been out 4 months. Windows 98 has been out 14 years.

But I cannot find how Chitika determines a Windows 98 client. My guess would be that 'Windows 98' is a catch all for IE < 6.

Anonymous said...

Linux has double the market share of iPad!! and that's not even counting Android!!

That that, Haters!!

Captcha: nompater, Father Food

Anonymous said...

MR. BOEHNER, WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?

Anonymous said...

My guess would be that 'Windows 98' is a catch all for IE < 6.

All the more likely considering they don't appear to have a 'Windows Unspecified Version' like they have for Mac OSX

Digital Atheist said...

after 10 years ofn busting my ass for my last company, they just up and decided i was no longer needed (made too much $). in a fit of pique, rage, or piss-offedness i punched one of my bosses walls pretty hard. the luck on their faces was friceless when i reset most of the dislocated bones myself. however, the fracture needs a splint.

as for bosses sleeping with any of my female companionship, no. just was pissed that slactards who stood around all day doing nothing but hide under the bosses desk sucking his cock got to work while i got the boot. all hail vicodin, all hail bourbon. fuck freetards, slacktards and corporate stupidity.

the fun in all of this is that if the machine i ran and maintained breaks down they will now have to pay upward of $120 an hour (plus travel time) to get fixed. oops. hahahaha

Anonymous said...

I don't get all the "zOMG TEH WINDOWS PHONE 7 sux0rs" just because it isn't an immediate hit. Hell it took Android almost a year or more and several revisions and phone versions before it took off yet if this new Windows phone isn't an immediate success the freetards constantly bash it.

Anonymous said...

@ January 14, 2011 9:16 PM

Sorry dude, being downsized sucks. Did you at least steal a streamline stapler?

Anonymous said...

Or a swingline... damn booze.

Digital Atheist said...

@9:28
i'll probably do that next week when i go to get my info for unemployment. not to mention a whole mention a bunch of my personal tools and such

Digital Atheist said...

vicodin and booze here. hahahaha

Anonymous said...

Windows phone isn't an immediate success the freetards constantly bash it.

Even if it has a steady adoption it will OMGSUXZ compared to something else.

But these stats only relate to sites in the Chitika ad network. Maybe Windows 7 phone is awesome at blocking ads??

Anonymous said...

not to mention a whole mention a bunch of my personal tools and such

Be sure to take some offical letterhead too if you can. Useful when you going for your next job.

Anonymous said...

The article publicized the outcome of a process within KDE to make sense of the relationship between the community and its products, and to reach a durable solution regarding the terms that should be used to refer to both.

Open source needs more programmers and less social workers.

Anonymous said...

hav a problems..

..how do i test only the ones crossed by the ray?

pls help

Anonymous said...

@January 14, 2011 8:20 PM,

am January 14, 2011 7:54 PM

I Lulz at your comment until I saw how fuckin stupid it is allowing CSS to fuck anything up.

Can you imagine how much flack Microsoft would take if they squirted one like that out?

dotNet Zombie said...

I don't get all the "zOMG TEH WINDOWS PHONE 7 sux0rs" just because it isn't an immediate hit. Hell it took Android almost a year or more and several revisions and phone versions before it took off yet if this new Windows phone isn't an immediate success the freetards constantly bash it.


That's because WP7 is made by the evil M$ who can't do anything right. Of course anything made by Microsoft will be a failure to the freetards.

Digital Atheist said...

open souarce has a problem: it needs a fuckin' clue AND a fuckin' direction

Anonymous said...

Even half-assed clones of Microsoft products are considered evil. Just look at Mono and now OpenOffice.org.

awk and sed are still not evil.

Anonymous said...

How do you give clue and direction to the freetard, without them ceasing to be a freetard?

For if they had clue they wouldn't be giving their labor away for free.

I call this the freetard paradox.

Anonymous said...

@ January 14, 2011 9:58 PM

See CVE-2011-0472, DoS via PDF printing for further lulz.

Anonymous said...

@ January 14, 2011 9:58 PM

See CVE-2011-0472, DoS via PDF printing for further lulz.


Okay, I do know that they're only DoS shit things but fuck man, seriously.

Yep. Fuckin' lulz around.

Anonymous said...

I don't see how Stallman can go on and on about software freedom then have software license agreements which are freedom limiting. If he believed in software freedom he'd be an advocate for public domain.

Anonymous said...

I don't see how Stallman can go on and on about software freedom then have software license agreements which are freedom limiting. If he believed in software freedom he'd be an advocate for public domain.

I made this exact same argument on OSnews and got flamed by Thom.
Some shit about 'positive' vs 'negative' freedom I think.

Anonymous said...

@January 14, 2011 1:56 PM

Actually, the next logical step would be modifying the GPL, thus that ALL content one creates with free software is automatically free, too. The requirement to open source the "code" would, of course, also be required. That way it would be effectively forbidden or made near to impossible to gain any profit from a product or work once one uses open source software somewhere in his workflow.

THIS would be the very natural conclusion if you're a loon like Stallman. But even he has a bit of capacity for rational thinking left that tells him that such action would bring open source to its knees.

Anonymous said...

But even he has a bit of capacity for rational thinking left that tells him that such action would bring open source to its knees.

Yes.. in the short term.

For the moment Stallman is being very successful in making the moral case for Free Software. It is not common among programmers to think of FOSS as somehow morally superior to regular software.

Don't forget what he wants is essentially all software to be funded by the government. If there is a critical mass of voters behind such a scheme, it will happen.

Anonymous said...

hey.. anybody remember Google Go?

how'd that work out for them? taken over java yet??

Anonymous said...

Can we add the individual that thinks having to hunt through an about:config menu to open urls in thunderbird in an external browser is "easy" to Sarah Palin's hit list?

Anonymous said...

MR. BOEHNER, WHERE ARE THE HOVERBOARDS?!?

Anonymous said...

Ask Bob Zemeckis, but IIRC Tom Hanks is blocking the distribution rights.

Anonymous said...

@ January 14, 2011 6:49 AM

So, the more hates you write about linux, the less there is to hate on, much like when writing why communism doesn't work.

True. But there is a difference: Communists don't flood every political forum and site on the internet with comments how communism will take over the world.


But Freetards do that. So, although there isn't much to say about Linux that hasn't been said here and on other "hater" blogs, due the freetards' behavior you just cannot stop with the linux hate.

Anonymous said...

Ohioham on osnews:

link

Anonymous said...

from osnews: (not ohioham's posting)


HATE Flash... It makes me feel dirty all over just to have to use it for video delivery

Flash is raping me!

Is it me or is osnews far more loontastic than slashdot now?

Anonymous said...

Crazy that "Open Source" is equivalent in many minds with "Open Standard" today.


So if I release some buggy FOSS painting program that uses its own file format, can I advertize the format as a "Open Standard" just because I uploaded poorly documented source code on my site?


Interesting times..

Anonymous said...

Re: 4:10 AM

Well, okay, I admit it. I hate Flash too. But I couldn't care less about it being proprietary. I hate Flash more because I use a Mac and Flash for Mac has been a steaming pile of crap for at least the last seven years. (Even before Adobe couldn't figure out how to accelerate video on Mac OS X, they couldn't figure out how to render their ordinary content at a reasonable framerate. And either way the damn thing sucks up CPU cycles like nothing else.) I'd love to dispense a few beatings to the team that writes Flash.

Digital Atheist said...

Google explains freetarded move and the source must be open crowd lines up to perform fellatio. I've looked at demos of the WebM and Theora streams... quality sucked. sigh

Anonymous said...

True. But there is a difference: Communists don't flood every political forum and site on the internet with comments how communism will take over the world.

Actually, they pretty much do. They are every bit as fanatical as freetards - they despise anyone who disagrees with them in the slightest. They're not usually out-and-proud communists, but they still believe in government control of everything and are convinced that corporations and private property are the root of all evil. They're convinced that humanity cannot make any "progress" until civilisation changes to represent their beliefs, the technological revolutions of the past few centuries notwithstanding.

They are also easily trolled. For lulz, tell them that you don't believe in climate change, or that you don't think net neutrality is a good idea because the FCC will have too much power. They will hate on you like you're Glenn Beck.

Anonymous said...

I am talking about real communists (the Lenin/Stalin/Mao kind), not liberals.

Anonymous said...

Is it me or is osnews far more loontastic than slashdot now?

Been that way for some time now..

Anonymous said...

I am talking about real communists (the Lenin/Stalin/Mao kind), not liberals.

I've seen 'communists' on pretty much every forum, political or no.

Always some smartass kid with a soviet avatar who will get all pissy when you point out that the USSR was fucked.

Then always say it was stalinism not communism or some shit, and real communism hasn't been tried.

Like freetards in that respect. FOSS won't be as good as commercial software until the revolution is complete, and we're all using FOSS.

Anonymous said...

Been that way for some time now..

Loon migration from slash to osnews?

What was the reason?

Anonymous said...

there are two very different types of liberals in my experience.

the tax-paying pot-smoking kind who watch fox for the lulz (FTW).

the entitlement-seeking male feminist who watch msnbc for the 'news' (FTL).

Anonymous said...

Loon migration from slash to osnews?

What was the reason?


Attrition.

The average Loon is about college age. When they start working, they grow up. Not many take the LOLwrence path.

The Slashdot loons from about 2001-2007 would be in the real world now.

Loons just starting college after 2007 would have gone OSnews as it is younger hipper Web2.0 and mac-friendly. Thom's fiery sermons keep them in the pews.. for now.

Anonymous said...

I've noticed that the more recent loons are just dabblers anyway. The days of the really hard core loon are behind us, fortunately.

Back in the glory days of slashdot, a self-respecting Loon would boast about not running any OS except Linux and only using iRiver and OGG.

But now days on OSnews they boast about Windows VMs and iPod syncing on their Ubuntu machine, and beg for ports of Photoshop and Steam.

Anonymous said...

msnbc


According to some groklaw commenters, it's the "official Microsoft propaganda channel".

I've read even there once that this guy "pukes" when he comes across msnbc.

msnbc on groklaw:
http://tinyurl.com/5rgz9e7


I love this comment:

many mainstream Dems are married to Microsoft, for example, Huffington Post
gang, who constantly skew news in MS favor. not to mention Oberman on MSNBC
where MS is _never_ one of the worst persons in the world.


http://tinyurl.com/6et6j5h

Ya, haven't you got the memo, how the evil Mr. Microsoft guy poisoned kittens?

The guys on osnews may be loons, but the people on groklaw are *nuts*. I think some of these nutties who are featured on Penguin Day could be very well posting on groklaw today.

PJ's censorship didn't help. She filtered most rational people out and only the craziest of the crazys are left. She seems to be fine with that.

Anonymous said...

The days of the really hard core loon are behind us, fortunately

Their last refuge is groklaw.

Anonymous said...

Oberman on MSNBC
where MS is _never_ one of the worst persons in the world.


Wait until they here about CNN's new show: Spizter/Parker/Stallman

Anonymous said...

Spitzer Parker Stallman

Worst. DP. Ever.

Anonymous said...

The guys on osnews may be loons, but the people on groklaw are *nuts*

Yeah, they seem like Loons circa 2000 that have abandoned the tech but kept the faith.

Freetard - Software = Groktard

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makz said...

There are no more posts from linux hater because the hate won, linux desktop is finally dead :-)

Anonymous said...

linux desktop is dead?

Not according to esr!

If you had bothered to do five seconds of background checking, you
might have discovered that I am the guy who responded to Craig
Mundie's "Who are you?" with "I'm your worst nightmare", and that I've
in fact been something pretty close to your company's worst nightmare
since about 1997. You've maybe heard about this "open source" thing?
You get one guess who wrote most of the theory and propaganda for it
and talked IBM and Wall Street and the Fortune 500 into buying in.
But don't think I'm trying to destroy your company. Oh, no; I'd be
just as determined to do in any other proprietary-software monopoly,
and the community I helped found is well on its way to accomplishing
that goal.


On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be
heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but
develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone
will go superconductive.
But I must thank you for dropping a good joke on my afternoon. On
that hopefully not too far distant day that I piss on Microsoft's
grave, I sincerely hope none of it will splash on you.
Cordially yours,
Eric S. Raymond


http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=208

Tux Sux said...

Flash for Mac has been a steaming pile of crap for at least the last seven years.

At least they're not using PPC anymore, lest you remember the pain of Flash on a G3 or G4.

real communism hasn't been tried.

Yeah, there's a reason for that. If it was actually workable it'd be done by now. Any philosophy that has as its crux the eradication of another, deeply ingrained philosophy as a workability requirement is fucked. Even if the new method is somehow "correct", you'll never get uptake with intentional polarization. That's why FOSS is fail. The "open source" people figured this out and made decent progress in the 90s but they were weakened with the stock market troubles before being totally drowned out by the true believers.

Loon migration from slash to osnews? What was the reason?

Probably because Slashdot's core (Taco et al) got older and gradually mellowed. They got married, had kids, and were less about putting the Microsoft jihad as #1 in their lives. Yeah, Slashdot still hates on M$ but back in the day you'd see the "Borg" icon three articles in a row. They were also bought out, which is around when the mellowing began.

The commenters are also (way) older now, too. Slashdot has become a place for graybeards by refusing to reform itself to cater to the tech hip. Sites like Lifehacker/Gawker and Techcrunch stole that crowd.

the entitlement-seeking male feminist who watch msnbc for the 'news' (FTL).

I take exception to that SIR. You SIR are no good SIR.

Anonymous said...

Would you guys encourage young people to take a career in IT, especially programming?

With people like esr and stallman around, I would be careful with such recommendation.

Anonymous said...

On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead

what an ego on that guy.. what makes him think MS would be interested in his mad fetchmail skillz?

Anonymous said...

Would you guys encourage young people to take a career in IT, especially programming?

Never entered IT for this very reason. no other profession encourages its members to give away their work.

Lawyers may work pro-bono, but you don't hear them say "lawyers who work for fee are evil."

Or "Authors that don't release their novels under creative commons are denying their words freedom."

Anonymous said...

Sites like Lifehacker/Gawker and Techcrunch stole that crowd.

Don't forget OSNews, home of the Archbuntu loons born in the 90's.

Anonymous said...

Probably because Slashdot's core (Taco et al) got older and gradually mellowed

Yes, but what exactly attracted loons to osnews?

The mac loving as one poster said?

I first came across osnews in 2005, back then the audience was different. There were Linux fans, but most of them were not completely deluded loontards.

osnews primarily didn't cater to fosstards as well, the "OS"News stands for Operating System News, not Open Source News.

I think the change slowly began when Thom Holwerda entered the show and Eugenia left.


Holwerda is a bit odd. He makes ridiculous claims like "Firefox is the savior of the web" and "h.264 is evil" on the other hand, he has not much problems with proprietary software. He even defended Vista once.


And here he bashes shuttleworth:

http://tinyurl.com/dzll8g

If he's a freetard, he is a different kind of freetard.

So yes, I am still not sure why hardcore loons "migrated" to that site.

makz said...

LOL Firefox 4 won't have hardware acceleration for graphics on linux because it lacks proper video drivers

"Firefox 4 supports full hardware acceleration on Windows 7 and Windows Vista via a combination of D2D, DX9 and DX10. This allows us to accelerate everything from Canvas drawing to video rendering. Windows XP users will also enjoy hardware acceleration for many operations because we’re using our new Layers infrastructure along with DX9. And, of course, OSX users have excellent OpenGL support, so we’ve got that covered as well."

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/01/firefox-4-beta-9-a-huge-pile-of-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-349829

makz said...

Also look how they even don't bother saying anything about linux at all, and this coming from the developers of one of the freetard's favorite browsers is another sign that linux desktop is dead :-)

Anonymous said...

Never entered IT for this very reason. no other profession encourages its members to give away their work.

True. Much of IT is comprised of nerds. And I guess that's the reason why dodgy ideologies like GNU have found so many willing fans.

You don't find many lawyers who know for what the "T" in James T. Kirk stands for... programmers on the other hand...

If your world consists primarily of Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D and anime, you fall for shit like GNU easier and its "ebil proprietary software threatens the WORLD" rhetoric. Just look how much of that rhetoric is based on Sci fi:

Microsoft: "Borg", "Evil Empire", "Death Star".


Hey, I know what the T stands for, so.. No offense to Sci Fi and fantasy fans here. Not everyone is a freetard. But there is a connection.

makz said...


If your world consists primarily of Star Trek, Star Wars, D&D and anime, you fall for shit like GNU easier and its "ebil proprietary software threatens the WORLD" rhetoric. Just look how much of that rhetoric is based on Sci fi:

Microsoft: "Borg", "Evil Empire", "Death Star".


True, but only if you are 15 (either physically or mentally)

Tux Sux said...

Never entered IT for this very reason. no other profession encourages its members to give away their work.

If you're a "yes man" it'll never work. The guys you see at Slashdot complaining about doing 40 hours per week free work reformatting computers for their ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend's sister's best friend need to do something else. Negotiating skills are a requirement to avoid overburdening and eventual burnout.

The programming equivalent are the guys claiming to be working 120 hours per week for under $30,000/yr. I never understood why these guys were so afraid of losing their jobs since they'd make more taking three shifts at places like McDonald's.

If you can complete projects on time and on budget, are self-directed, and don't get too heated when conversing with your boss, IT and programming (and pretty much anything else, really) are fine career choices. Otherwise, generations of socially awkward computer staffers have built expectations that are unrealistic for many and require pushback to dispel.

Just look how much of that rhetoric is based on Sci fi

Don't forget net neutrality Tron guy. I also like the guys who ask if you're going to take the red or blue pill in conversations that have nothing to do with The Matrix.

No offense to Sci Fi and fantasy fans here. Not everyone is a freetard. But there is a connection.

You might be onto something, though. I'm way less into sci-fi than when I was more freetarded, though I never perceived movies as offering prescriptions on how to view and live life.

Anonymous said...

I think the connection is in social skills, or lack thereof. People that can be described as nerds, by definition have problems relating with others (especially the opposite sex). Maybe to compensate the lack of human interactions, passion, love, they concentrate on fantasy and virtual worlds. The computer may act as a refuge from the harsh reality, as much as fantasy and scifi movies take your mind on a trip to distant world where the nerds can become heroes.

Maybe the GNU cause itself is viewed as something worth fighting for, because if the FSF wins then all the nerds would get some sort of revenge on life.

I don't know, I'm no psychology expert, but it sounds good to me.

On the other hand I always found myself interested in stuff I needed to get something. I got involved in IT because I really wanted to make some great games. I started with simple stuff, just to learn the basics. It evolved gradually, and when I started making money with my knowledge I decided to continue. I am now studying to get a degree in Natural Science (it's a mix of chemistry, biology, ecology, geology, etc). It's pretty distant from the world of the system administrator, but I really like it and it helps staying more outside taking samples and data.

Anonymous said...

Nerds do not realise that social skills have to be learned. They assume that they were simply born without that feature, can never have it, and must therefore try to enjoy a lifetime of nerdiness. When in fact they could most likely pick up the required skills with a bit of practice.

Anonymous said...

They should watch "The 40 Year Old Virgin". Funny movie, but the writers obviously understood nerds, especially the fortress-of-solitude (basement) part.

Anonymous said...

They assume that they were simply born without that feature, can never have it, and must therefore try to enjoy a lifetime of nerdiness.

I think that it can get more complicated than that. Probably the people you have around while young can make you into an average guy, a dominant personality, or a shy nerd.

Anyway, if you realize you have shortcomings in life, then you can probably work them out. Some people I know can't stand the fact of beign imperfect, and that can be a problem even if you aren't really the best in town. Thinking too high of yourself will make you think that you are perfect, while everyone is wrong about you and doesn't really understand you. It's something you will probably experience during puberty, but some people live an entire life like that and that's how you get the 40 years old virgin in the basement.

Alcohol is taking effect, so I should be out of business soon. Anyway I always found interesting to look at these guys and trying to understand why they really can't get out of the prisons in their heads. It's like they build such good defences against the outside world they just can't get out of.

Anonymous said...

I also like the guys who ask if you're going to take the red or blue pill in conversations that have nothing to do with The Matrix.


I may sound like a nerd now, but boy, isn't this the most overrated movie ever? I was *so* annoyed by the hype that it received 1999 - 2003 (when the sequels came out, the hype stopped).

There isn't an iota of originality in The Matrix. The "take a pill to leave the virtual world" thing can be seen in Total Recall for example.

The whole idea about this world not being real is old as hell. Plato already wrote about that.

There were dozens of "holodeck" episodes in the various Star Trek spinoffs that had pretty much the same basic storyline as the matrix (minus the stupid "people are batteries" thing)


Not to forget the movies Dark City and The Truman Show that were released one year before Matrix and dealth pretty much with the same topic, the only difference was that the deception wasn't VR but an Alien City/Television Show.

Ya, big nerd rage here, I know. But boy, Matrix really got on my nerves. It was in the same time frame when the freetards were most agressive too. A double Whopper of annoyance.

Matrix was an ok film, nothing great though, except the effects. It reminded me really of Linux back then. Like with Linux, it got hyped beyond belief by a cult (and yes, Matrix fans were like a cult).

Anonymous said...

And here's what I mean with cult:

Asking why The Matrix is such a great movie is like asking why is Beethoven's Ninth Symphony beautiful. If you don't see why, no one can tell you. If The Matrix isn't great, nothing is. It's just a spiritual experience that must be felt and can't be really explained or rationalized.

link

Man. Like a hardcore loon talking about Linux.

Anonymous said...

The programming equivalent are the guys claiming to be working 120 hours per week for under $30,000/yr. I never understood why these guys were so afraid of losing their jobs since they'd make more taking three shifts at places like McDonald's.

Night Managers at Burger king Make roughly that for 40 hour weeks. Burger King will pay to put you through school for your choice of degrees.

And to think, not too long ago people were willing to die for something as silly as a lunch break and a weekend.

Anonymous said...

Look, as far as classic films go, "The Matrix" isn't even on the list.

It was a lame rip off of a John Woo film and Philip K. Dick story that played well to U.S. Audiences because they'd never seen a John Woo film or read a Philip K. Dick story.

Anonymous said...

True. What I found especially laughauble was Morpheus' bullshit descriptions.

"What is the Matrix?"

"I can't explain you what the Matrix is".

Why not?

It's not that hard: A simulated reality you live in. End.

The other VR films that were released at the same time (Existenz, Thirteenth Floor) were far less pretentious and could tell the story without all that snotty bullshit.

Anonymous said...

@January 15, 2011 9:28 AM

Microsoft: "Borg", "Evil Empire", "Death Star".


True, but only if you are 15 (either physically or mentally)


So, Scott McNealy is mentally a 15 year old?

Anonymous said...

Speaking of SF, some crazy conspiracy here:

still not sure what's about

Anonymous said...

I may sound like a nerd now, but boy, isn't this the most overrated movie ever?

Yeah, that and Matrix 4 whoops I mean Inception. Dark City and Strange Days were released earlier and covered the concepts better. Not that I detest Matrix. It was a good action flick (John Woo + Phil Dick is a spot-on description) with nice effects, but I never got the whole "It opened a whole new world for me". Same deal with Inception. I guess maybe if I were 8 years or or something but if you've watched the Sci-Fi channel for an afternoon or read some Asimov, Lovecraft, or someone it'll seem passe.

The other VR films that were released at the same time (Existenz, Thirteenth Floor) were far less pretentious and could tell the story without all that snotty bullshit.

Actually I think that's the key. The pretentiousness wears off onto the audience and makes them feel superior to the non-believers (whoever they are). Same with Lunix. The Matrix also hits on the nerd preference of sounding smart rather than being smart. "I know what it's like to be GNU/FREE. I can't describe it. It's just like air to me. You poor soul. I pity you."

I'm sure I'm missing something but from what's coming to mind, Gattaca was the best "hard" Sci-Fi film of the 90s, but no one ever talks about that, despite its continued relevance.

Anonymous said...

At least they're not using PPC anymore, lest you remember the pain of Flash on a G3 or G4.

Oh, yes, I remember that. The G4 era was really when Flash started to suck on the Mac. Until then, there may have been performance differences between the Mac and the PC, but they weren't seriously noticeable. Then suddenly you could have a 1.4 GHz G4 Mac and get worse framerates than an 800 MHz PC.

I speak for more Mac users than you might suspect when I say that I would really, really love for Adobe to lose its entire market and die. Even if that would mean someone coming up with a version of The GIMP that didn't suck.

The best way I can describe the experience of using Adobe programs on the Mac is this: have you ever run a program written using those early Java GUI toolkits? The ones where basic OS-provided stuff would be ignored because Java didn't know how to get those things right on all platforms, so every window had a button in it to close the window, rather than just using the close control on the window? You would use those programs and even after spending days with them, you would still occasionally get frustrated because they acted so stupidly unlike the way every other program you used would, and all the standard keyboard shortcuts wouldn't work so every time you used the thing you had to slow way down.

Pretty much every Adobe product for Mac these days feels like that. They pull these really stupid tricks to try and force the Mac to behave as though it had Windows' single-window mode, and it doesn't just make the program act stupid, it also means their programs have weird bugs that no other programs would ever have because they have to spend so much time reinventing the wheel. That's why I am very distrustful of Adobe Air -- it's just more of the same.

Unfortunately, the exact same thing can be said of programs written for X11, like The GIMP.

Digital Atheist said...

@2:59 welcome to Safari, Qiucktime and others n Windows. sigh

Anonymous said...

The Matrix also hits on the nerd preference of sounding smart rather than being smart.

LOL Truth!

Phil Dick

PDK is a very underrated author. And very unique.

How is it William Gibson who gets credited with the whole cyberpunk thing? Philip K Dick was there decades earlier.

Azathoth said...

Yeah, that and Matrix 4 whoops I mean Inception. Dark City and Strange Days were released earlier and covered the concepts better. Not that I detest Matrix.

add another one: Abre los ojos (1997). Which is miles ahead of Matrix.

I actually liked the Matrix but the moment i watched i knew it was never on pair with the 80's sci-fi masterpieces like Bladerunner, Alien and The Thing or even Predator.

I miss the 80's....


But i did enjoy Inception a lot. Much better than the Dark Knight which is probably the most overrated movie of all time.

Anonymous said...

So, Scott McNealy is mentally a 15 year old?

Scott McNealy knew he was talking to people who were mentally still teenagers.

The Google management have worked it out too. Just look at how they treat their employees. Bussing, free meals, 20% employee nap time..

Anonymous said...

The Google management have worked it out too

The "don't be evil" motto is a giveaway.

Non IT corps would be laughed at for such a motto.

Of course, other corporations have image campaigns too, but this one takes the cake.

Even fair trade companies etc. have more humble mottos.

Google got even violent fanboys now:

Anonymous said...

Google Fanboys Toss Eggs at Blurred-Out Street View Houses

Diehard fanboys are often guilty of unruly, mean-spirited behavior, but most of these scuffles are relegated to online bulletin boards and comment threads. Not so in the case of Google devotees, who have inexplicably gone brutal -- and ridiculous -- in their defense of Google Street View.


Google enthusiasts splattered houses with eggs in the Bergerhausen district of Essen, West Germany, in an apparent protest against those homeowners' decision to have their abodes blurred out from Street View. These egg-tossing vandals also taped notes to the mailboxes of conscientious objectors stating, "Google's cool"


http://tinyurl.com/4lfaf5q

Is Google a corporate-cult? It's sometimes scary to read on forums how that company gets defended no matter what. Google is always right.

Those smug Apple fanboys of the 90s got nothing on today's Google devotees.

Anonymous said...

Essen, West Germany

still 1988 over at pcworld?

Anonymous said...

nothing to do with google, just good old-fashioned class warfare.

Anonymous said...

You know, that's why I don't have much problems with Microsoft. I've never heard of Microsoft fanboys terrorizing a community for switching to Linux for example. Maybe because MS doesn't have true fanboys!

A good thing.

Anonymous said...

And all of Microsofts image campaigns ("Windows 7 was my idea") just don't catch on with fanboys.

Anonymous said...

@2:59 welcome to Safari, Qiucktime and others n Windows. sigh

Actually, on the Mac, Safari, iTunes, and QuickTime Player ("QuickTime" is an API, not a program -- and actually the GUI provided for embedding QuickTime into programs is fairly straightforward and unoffensive) have pretty much always been weird, too. (QuickTime Player started being weird around version 5 or so, about a decade back, while iTunes started being weird as soon as Apple bought it and rebranded it. It started off as a third-party program called SoundJam MP.) Apple's other programs don't have nonstandard GUIs on the Mac, or at least not noticeably so. iCal is something of an exception, but then I've never met a calendar program which wasn't horribly awkward anyway. (Dashboard doesn't count.) ;)

I think that may be precisely because those are the programs Apple writes which it ports to Windows. On the other hand, on the Mac, if the users don't unanimously object, in the next OS version Apple usually provides an API for doing whatever GUI junk the weird programs did. If I were on Windows, I wouldn't use their stuff for precisely this reason.

Now that I think about it, pretty much every piece of cross-platform software large enough to have enough to have developers actively working on the OSes individually pulls this crap. Apple, Adobe, Microsoft (same deal as Apple on Windows, but in reverse -- ), Firefox, vlc...

There must be a reason. They need to have developers for all supported platforms anyway, and there must be as much work in debugging an app which forces the OS to do things it doesn't want to do as there is in just writing the thing so it acts like normal programs do on that OS in the first place. The only place I can think of where there's an obvious savings is writing and printing documentation. Do you suppose that's it? We're all getting crappy GUIs because nobody wants to write a separate manual for each OS? Man, that sucks if it's true.

Anonymous said...

Who the hell uses Safari in Windows anyway?

Give me IE 5 or Opera anyday.

Tux Sux said...

They pull these really stupid tricks to try and force the Mac to behave as though it had Windows' single-window mode

Adobe's flagship product went from being hard-coded to Mac OS Classic, to porting to Windows out of necessity as Apple caved in on itself, then back to OS X, which itself has a weird dual paradigm thing going on partly because of Carbon.

So, yeah, their software seems so schizophrenic. Part of it is they're like the opposite of Netscape. Instead of rewriting everything, Adobe seems to rewire nothing and push things to the extreme. Just look how long it took them to even get native OS X applications out. Creative Suite just barely beat out 10.3's release. It would have been a complete joke if not for Quark sucking even harder.

Anonymous said...

Adobe seems to rewire nothing and push things to the extreme.

Wise.

I wonder how they developed to Linux Flash plugin? Maybe there is some WINEish layer in there.

Digital Atheist said...

i think part of it is the fact that company A(MS Apple, whatever) gets so attached to their (so-called) look that they have to force non-native components on the other platform. Safari doesn't look or ct like any Windows program in any way, shape, or form. I'm sure the same goes for MS stuff on Apple.

the sad fact is that Linux can't even makr Linux programs look like Linux programs on Linux. (blame the previous sentence on vicodin and bourbon).

Anonymous said...

This blog is an oasis in the trash desert that is the Internet (at least the tech forums part of it).

On which IT website can you find comments that trash nerds, google, freetards and the original matrix?

Heaven!

Anonymous said...

Linux programs look like Linux programs on Linux

The Linux look is ASS.

Considering this fact, all Linux programs are consistant.

Anonymous said...

On which IT website can you find comments that trash nerds, google, freetards and the original matrix?

Only on a tech site that doesn't rely on advertising revenue.

Anonymous said...

How is it William Gibson who gets credited with the whole cyberpunk thing? Philip K Dick was there decades earlier.

Tell me about it. While looking at 90s sci-fi films after posting I came across some pretentious article saying that if you didn't know Gibson then you didn't know anything. WTF? He didn't even come up with the idea himself. He just watched Blade Runner and said I need to write books like that.

I miss the 80's....

80s was the decade of sci-fi, both hard and soft. Yeah 70s had Star Wars but you can't beat the 80s. Even throwaway stuff like Flight of the Navigator and Last Starfighter are standouts compared to the latest "Die Hard in Space" effort.

Much better than the Dark Knight which is probably the most overrated movie of all time.

I'm starting to thing there's something wrong with me because I'm starting to dread watching Nolan films while the whole world praises everything he does. TDK was 2.5 stars tops and it's like #10 on IMDB. And Inception is #6. Come on. I can accept that the move is somehow good and that it's just not for me, but the 6th best movie of all time? I know it'll drop but still.

Anonymous said...

^^ and were posters can stay anonymous lest they be tracked down and egged by psycho freetards.

Anonymous said...

Best movie of all time: Orson Wells' The Trial.

Anonymous said...

Worst movie of all time: Revolution OS.

It's not a revolution unless some gets beheaded, FFS..

Anonymous said...

Christopher Nolan - agreed!

His movies are the Linux of the movie world.

I don't get the hype at all.

Man, this blog is something like the anti-internet. And I love it!

Tux Sux said...

The Google management have worked it out too. Just look at how they treat their employees. Bussing, free meals, 20% employee nap time..

Don't forget Lego rooms and Google Real Estate.

The "don't be evil" motto is a giveaway.

I'm a bit shocked at how well this has worked. Partly because this same group of people seem to be so jaded toward politics yet fall victim to the same rhetoric when it's released by a corporation.

Non IT corps would be laughed at for such a motto.

Do you think anyone would take Exxon seriously if they changed their slogan to "Don't be mean to seals?"

Is Google a corporate-cult? It's sometimes scary to read on forums how that company gets defended no matter what.

Just look at the comments on that WebM OSNews article. The only one talking sense got downvoted to oblivion and the rest were talking about how Google was doing it for freedom and what a great guy he is.

I didn't see this one coming. I'm a little lost on the appeal. To me, Google is a somewhat boring megacorp, and no one's talking about them taking over the world like they were circa 2004.

Anonymous said...

if you didn't know Gibson then you didn't know anything. WTF?

Exactly. Very lame stuff, even then. Gibson knew nothing about the tech. Neuromancer reads like any other 1980s "OMG Japanese Taking Over!!" storyline.

Fuck this, pass the Can-D. I'm off to fuck Perky Pat!!!...

Anonymous said...

no one's talking about them taking over the world like they were circa 2004.

No one is talking about them, period.

Anonymous said...

Google Real Estate

there is some evil right there.

have these guys got ADD or something? why is an advertising company bothering to do this?

i read some where years ago they were going to start buying up bill boards and such. that would have kinda made sense.

but mobile phones, browsers, real estate, lego rooms etc. no real strategy that i can see..

Tux Sux said...

QuickTime Player started being weird around version 5

Obligatory plug for QuickTime 4

pretty much every piece of cross-platform software large enough to have enough to have developers actively working on the OSes individually pulls this crap.

Perhaps some counter-examples: Netscape, which looked pretty native in UNIX, Windows, and Mac. IE 5, which was Mac enough.

MS Office for OS X is/was definitely a strange one though. It didn't look like a Mac app but certainly didn't look like a Microsoft app, either. It's almost like someone contracted a third party to emulate the Microsoft "look" but in Mac style but they didn't get it quite right. But, if you know anything about Microsoft's MBU (Mac Business Unit), that statement is pretty much true.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for Linux Hater: The Movie.

Morgan Freeman as LH, with Eric Roberts/Charlie Sheen as Linux.

And a cameo by Larry Flynt as the GIMP.

Anonymous said...

I'm a bit shocked at how well this has worked. Partly because this same group of people seem to be so jaded toward politics yet fall victim to the same rhetoric when it's released by a corporation.

Just read Animal Farm.

Anonymous said...

I wish OSX had retained the NEXTSTEP look and feel.

Anonymous said...

why did they make facebook into a movie? i don't get it.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Animal Farm, this post on Penguin Day is still gold. It's about osnews lunacy, too.

Freetards are easy to manipulate. It's because they immediately make friends with anyone who pretends to love FOSS. And their hate target never changes. The enemy of MS is automatically my friend.

Another gullible group is "Anonymous". I love it how these guys started a crusade against a cult and totally exhibit cult like behavior themselves.

Too bad we don't have an Orwell or Dostoevsky today. There is enough material to cover..

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Anonymous said...

@ January 15, 2011 5:55 PM

“Yes but isnt MS at the very pinnacle of the evil empire ?! No one can deny that ! MS serves MS, not people. Free GNU software serves freedom !”

ROFL. I am still amazed that these guys never notice how their stuff sounds.

This could be a from a propaganda poster.


"The counter-revolutionaries serve the rich, not the people. Your government serves freedom!"

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Adam King said...

I see none of you have managed to acquire something called "a clue". It is unfortunate but not unexpected.

In the short time I last trolled this garbage dump, a humble Linux OS called "Android" managed to ass rape the competition to become the #1 smartphone OS in the world. No wonder why you hatetards are in a crazed rage against the Google Corporation.

GNU/Linux is like a shining star in a world of anti-consumer garbage software. It is the essence of freedom in the world of slavery.

And you hate it. You hate freedom. Because you let the evil in your heart control you.

You won't stop us. You can't stop us. Because we have the power of all that is righteous and good on our side. We have God on our side. You have nothing.

I have given up on saving you. May Satan have mercy on your soul.

Anonymous said...

What part of Android is "GNU"?

Anonymous said...

Weak, Adam.

Weak. Expected more from the Queefer.

Adam King said...

Shut the fuck up Winbred scum. You aren't worthy to speak to me.

Anonymous said...

Come on, man. You're a hater doing it for the lulz.

The joke got old.

Adam King said...

Did you not hear me the first time, Wibred?

Anonymous said...

Hey, just noticed that Queef updated his blog.

Anonymous said...

Oh look! Adam Queefer and his jackassery have returned.

Bend over and spread 'em for Google, ladyboy.

Anonymous said...

Oh look! Adam Queefer and his jackassery have returned.

Indeed. LH posted a new entry (if only for the comments), Adam has returned and this post reached almost 200 comments in just three days.

Just like in the good old days.

I am bit teary eyed.

Anonymous said...

QuickTime Player started being weird around version 5

Obligatory plug for QuickTime 4


I knew it was somewhere around there. And I remember now that I had a copy of version 3 of QuickTime Player around for a long time because it kept working (just a face for the API, remember) and didn't suck.

That's one of the things they did where everyone complained, though. In the next version, they backed off of the really egregious stuff in that article, and the rest kind of flaked off after a while. (Although not the brushed-metal interface, which eventually just became a standard window type, and then eventually became the standard window type.)

Perhaps some counter-examples: Netscape, which looked pretty native in UNIX, Windows, and Mac. IE 5, which was Mac enough.

Netscape was a goofy mess if you started to examine anything beyond the basic parts of the browser window. I'll grant you that it was just as bad elsewhere, though. (Netscape also refused to update the custom MDEF they used to a version which worked properly with the colored-in menus in OS 8+, so that for about a year their browser was the only program still being updated which forced all the menus to be black and white.)

Plus, IE for Mac did a bunch of nonstandard things in its day. (The sidebar thingamabob, for example.) They seem kind of tame now, but at the time the program was an aberration.

I wish OSX had retained the NEXTSTEP look and feel.

Actually, arguably the best version of Mac OS X for GUI consistency was the first developer release, waaaaaay back in something like 2000 or so. You had to have one of a fairly narrow range of machines to run it, but it was pretty good. Imagine a copy of Mac OS 9 for window and application management and general style, but then let programs have access to the full range of Nextstep widgets and support. Aqua was a huge disappointment -- remember, there were a huge number of features which Mac OS 9 had which dropped out in OS X as it eventually shipped, like drawers (in the Finder) and WindowShade. That first developer preview had all that.

Adam King said...

Wow huge ass wall of text filled with sentimental garbage. That sounds like a Tux Sux post. Forgot to sign your name Winbred?

Adam King said...

Hey, just noticed that Queef updated his blog.

You better be a GNU/Linux user than, because Winbreds aren't allowed on my blog.

Anonymous said...

You can turn Javascript off, Queefer.

Anonymous said...

Adam Queef, Pastor? Why isn't the Bible listed in your favourite books, but Stallmans piece of shit is?

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