We hate Linux. And you should too.
http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/03/11/lessons-learned/tl;dr of the tl;dr: C.L.U.S.T.E.R.F.U.C.K.
Three Reasons to Buy an Open PC1. It's entirely free.2. It just works.3. Support is included.Prices starting at $249 in US. Now, get off your hatertard ass and go buy one!
Clusterfuck is right. I can imagine small insignificant cannibal ants biting each others head off.At least Dave Neary concedes that GNOME needs a dictator, and that IRC conversations while sitting in your mom's basement just doesn't cut it if you ever plan on building something useful.Oh, and I am sure the guy above me is a bot.
Just for the sake of replying to that bot though, openPC is broken by design, in the sense that they expect a KDE desktop to run smoothly on an intel atom processor with 1GB of RAM.
If you need a dictator, then you're doing it wrong..
the sense that they expect a KDE desktop to run smoothly on an intel atom processor with 1GB of RAM.Works smoothly on a P4 with 1Gb ram, insofar as KDE can ever be 'smooth'..
1. It's entirely free.2. It just works.3. Support is included.Prices starting at $249 in US. Now, get off your hatertard ass and go buy one!The price tag contradicts point #1. You clearly stated that it's entirely free. So just give it to me if that's the case.
If you need a dictator, then you're doing it wrongSeems to work for several other projects. Python refers to it's creator as the Benevolent Dictator for Life. He reviews PEPs (python enhancement proposals) that people write, then accepts or rejects them giving very clear reasoning.It may not be perfect, but at least a single brain is acting as a filter, and not some design-by-community hive mind bullshit.
leave jerkface aloneJerkface is not above criticism, and I think the points made are valid.
What a rash and coarse language the Linux hater used!
Seems to work for several other projects.When it has worked, the dictator is always the main author and active contributor.Regretting that a project doesn't have a 'dictator' is really regret that the project has been reactionary ever since it was founded.When a project is founded for all the wrong reasons, organizational problems like this flow like a river of fail
Hmm.. comments are a little slow today..
Live Live Linux Desktop (LLLL)Fuck All Winbreds (FAW)LLLL & FAW!!!
I don't get what the hissy fit is for.Gnome didn't want Canonical's help for Gnome Shell. Gnome expects everyone to work on Gnome.Canonical wasn't happy with the direction Gnome was moving in, and Shuttlecock views it as a Red Hat project, so he figures, hey, It's free software, let's fork it!Now Gnome has their panties in a bunch because Canonical forked their project and they crying bloody murder about how it's a ploy to differentiate Ubuntu from the rest of the pack and not give back to the upstream, because the upstream didn't want their changes.And this whole "relationship with Gnome and KDE" bit is just as mind boggling. What relationship? Why should there be one? Gnome exists to oppose KDE. Gnome won't provide Canonical with that they want, nor let Canonical push development in that direction.Regardless of how horrid Unity is this is just absurd. You're competing projects for fuck's sake, start acting like it. Cooperate on shit that calls for it, and do your own thing elsewhere instead of throwing a fit every time shit doesn't go your way.Don't want people forking your project? Don't GPL it. It's as much about working together as it is about allowing people to clone your ball when you take it and go home.At worst, Gnome and Cononical can continue to mutually work on the Gnome libraries that sit under both Gnome Shell and Unity.So what if Shuttlecock is doing his own thing or if he's trying to set Ubuntu apart from the rest. It's about fucking time someone does that beyong offering different package management. respect to ±Shuttlecock for having a pair, and for doing away with X finally, and for trying at least, to have Canonical act like what it is, a company looking for profit.It's hard to offer a unique product and make money off it if you have to offer exactly the same as everyone else, you're going to have to fork and take on development at some point or another.Aside from Ubuntu and Unity being a steaming pile of turd, +1 to Canonical from straying from the pack. Better to be your own turd, than one of many in a turn pile.Fragmentation can actually work in their favour if they build a sufficiently appealing walled garden around it.
Shuttlecock for having a pair, and for doing away with X finallyWhere can I download this X-less Ubuntu?
Better to be your own turd, than one of many in a turn pile.Except Canonical will not be able to build a good DE like GNOME or KDE. They just don't have the resources, and the Linux community is ostracized against them.They have not forked GNOME yet, they are just building a shell on an older version of GNOME.
The price tag contradicts point #1. You clearly stated that it's entirely free. So just give it to me if that's the case.The fact that it's proprietary hardware doesn't help either.
They just don't have the resources, and the Linux community is ostracized against them.Exactly. Don't they remember Coral?
Where can I download this X-less Ubuntu?Didn't Shuttlecock say something about nixing X for Weyland at some point?You still gotta make sure stuff works if you're going to make a switch like that. Note that by "work" by mean "work" by Ubuntu standards.Except Canonical will not be able to build a good DE like GNOME or KDE.I wouldn't go so far as to call either Gnome or KDE* particularly good. Better than Unity, sure.*** = great framework, not so great DE.** = they don't really need to build a new DE themselves, they can keep building Unity on top of Gnome, which will probably piss off Gnome more, but there's a time when you have to stop giving a shit.They just don't have the resources,They have as many resources as Shuttlecock feels the need to feed into Canonical.and the Linux community is ostracized against them."has ostracized them" would be more proper, but that's exactly why they have to take on their development themselves.If you're going to back down from what you want to do with your project because Gnome and KDE don;t want to move in that direction, you might as well step down. Let the community be pissed off, they're never happy about anything to begin with, and nothing Canonical has done really deserves the shit storm they're in the middle of.+1 to Shuttlecock, again, for having the balls to do his own thing instead of consigning Canonical to mediocrity by being to scared to offend "the community". If he fails utterly, fine at least he did it his own way and failed.For fuck's sake we're talking about a community that ostracized Novell for daring to try protecting their customers. You're not going to go far by catering to them.
Exactly. Don't they remember Coral?That's not really an issue of resources, but an issue of trying to bet the farm on a market that doesn't pay for software, no matter how valuable it may be.Corel had the mind to pull out at least, when they realized that there is no money to be make by giving your corwn jewels away or by targeting the Linux desktop.It's the same reason Red Hat pulled out of the desktop market (Fedora is just a testbed for RHEL and not supported).There' only one feasible way to make cash in the Linux world: Ignore the desktop, target enterprises, and charge for support contracts, hoping to any god that might be listening that someone like Oracle isn't going to come along and undercut you on your only income stream.Shuttleworth will soon realise that trying to build a company on desktop Linux is an act of futility. Nevertheless +1 to him for trying.
How can you build a walled garden on FOSS principles?RMS even opposes having a 'wheel' group for su.Sometimes a few of the users try to hold total power over all the rest. Like the owner of the machine having power over the users of the machine. It's called System Administration.
Who said anything about "principals". Screw the "spirit" of the GPL.Build on the code. Just like Apple built on BSD and XNU. Granted the BSD license does not force derivative works to be under the same license, who says your framework on top of Linux has to be a derivative work?Or, as mentioned in the Gimp discussion under the previous entry, they can foot the bill for the Pantone and Hexachrome systems and build around that. No other Linux distributor will do that, nor chance invoking the ire of the "commnunity" or FSF for doing so. Canonical already has.I'm not a fan of Linux, and even less of Ubuntu, but I'd be refreshing at least to see a "F/OSS" company start actually behaving like a company and try giving itself a competitive advantage to leverage.I'm not saying that they'll think of doing something like the above, or go that far, or succeed even if they did, but it's nice to see someone diverging even somewhat from the group-think and collectively steaming turd-pile of mediocrity.
Who said anything about "principals".Canonical. To build a desktop OS that can compete with Windows/Mac that is open source. There's the problem.If Shuttleworth wanted to be in the operating system business, he should have bought Be Inc or licensed OS/2.
The price tag contradicts point #1. You clearly stated that it's entirely free. So just give it to me if that's the case.Point #1 could also mean the hypocritical free software definition set out by Bitchard Stallmaam.It may not be perfect, but at least a single brain is acting as a filter, and not some design-by-community hive mind bullshit.*We are a cluster of Linux zealots giving you free crap software. Now accept it or we will all turn your kitchen tables into Linux devices!*^Bull piece. At least Perl, which I'm still learning, isn't bull*, and has that awesome CGI.pm that eases CGI creation.*According to my father
Canonical. To build a desktop OS that can compete with Windows/Mac that is open source. There's the problem.Which doesn't stop either of the above options, or variants thereof. Again, Apple's kernel and base system are both open source (but not free software - free software is a problem (but there are ways around it) open source is not) - anyone can take XNU or Darwin and do as they please with it, while a solid foundation, that's not the useful part of the system.Build something on top of that that differentiates you from the SteamingTurdPileOfMediocrity(tm), and build yourself a walled garden on top of it. Hell, you can even open source everything that runs on top of that core (if it is, for example, a framework) and it won't mean jack shit because it's useless without the core, but you're still "playing nice".Let's say they go with the licensing Pantone route, and build up around that, say by building up on Gimp. Even if the competition can fork the shit out of your work, they can't do anything with it without licensing Pantone themselves, which they wont. (more ideal would be to buy out Pixel editor, and sell it but meh)And now you have a foundation to build at least a windowed garden around.Or they could license h.264 and do the same, and not just stop at playback, but cover the editing aspect too, fork the work on top of it as much as you want, it's useless without the license.Granted both are niche markets, but they're niche markets willing to pay for shit. And that's the fundamental problem with catering the the Linux "community" They don't pay for software, the solution is to look outside the community.The limitations of the GPL can be worked around if you have the balls to tell the FSF to go fuck themselves, a little lock-in goes a long way.The community will hate you for it, but they're not the ones putting a roof over your head or feeding your family, fuck 'em.
There is much wisdom in the post above me. Apple understood open source on desktop well, I hope shuttleworth does too. The problem is if he goes that route, he will need to fill a niche that isn't already done by either of the other OSes, or it needs to be free.
The limitations of the GPL can be worked around if you have the balls to tell the FSF to go fuck themselves, a little lock-in goes a long way.It would make for a better OS. But then it's no longer open source.And it basically becomes another proprietary OS. Not what shuttleworth wants anyway. He wants it to be OSS.BeOS was in a much stronger position in the 90's to do what shuttleworth is trying to do now. And they still failed, even without having to deal with FOSS crap.
Apple understood open source on desktop well,Apple is a hardware company. And very little all of their software is open source anyways.Don't you think Ubuntu is enough of a knockoff of OSX already.
Lessons learned: 7. For people to work together, they need to be in the same place Probably the next lesson they learn is that software has to have a price tag and developers have to be paid well, not just the lawyers. FOSS is just so ridiculous its not funny anymore.
7. For people to work together, they need to be in the same place I disagree about being in the same physical location; My business partner and I do good work and live over 5 hours apart by car. We telecommute using skype, Campfire, email, Fogbugz, Google Docs, a shared calendar and such. What all this adds up to is that we're always on the same page, aware of what the other is doing.The problem with many FOSS projects is how poorly they're organized. They may use some of the same tools, but don't take the time to plan or communicate. This is because most contributors just want to get in there and hack some code. Planning is boring, they see this as an opportunity to show how leet they are by bypassing the boring stages...and it fails spectacularly when any complexity is introduced.
Let's be honest here: FOSS people are not the most social of beings.Read Zed Shaw's rant on the IRC Ruby community. I'm willing to bet this stuff happens in all majorish projects.
It may not be perfect, but at least a single brain is acting as a filter, and not some design-by-community hive mind bullshit.In the future, all software will be designed and written on Ubuntu Forums, 'Angry Tux' style.I didn't say it was a nice future.
Read Zed Shaw's rant on the IRC Ruby community. I'm willing to bet this stuff happens in all majorish projects.I really respect that guy for being the voice of reason in a community full of idiots. He's got the balls to admit when there's a problem and actually do something about it.
It would make for a better OS. But then it's no longer open source.Sure it is! Everything is open except in the case of the example above, the Pantone and H.264 libraries, and/or the framework. Everything above and below the foundation of the "windowed garden" is complately open and can be forked to your heart's content.Shuttlecock has tried to do it before, Launchpad (and perhaps a few other things, that I cannot recall OToH) started life as a proprietary platform. He just didn't have the balls then to stick up to the community when they cried for it to be opened up.The community has already ostracized Canonical, so there's nothing to lose at this point by pissing a few people who, quite frankly, don't mean jack shit.What are they going to do? Boycott Canonical? Unlikely, you'll find that outside the FSF, GNU/Freedom is just a talking point, it's more about Linux than it is about anything else. That's why Sun was chastised for going open, there was no way to poach CDDL tech and bring it to Linux, without making it useless (see ZFS over FUSE).And even if they do boycott Canonical, does it matter? Cannonical is a business. The freetards not only are not putting a roof over anyone's head or feeding anyone, they out to make it as difficult as possible to do so. They aren't important, and shouldn't be the core market anyway, simply because a market, by definition involves the changing hands of currency. Again, fuck 'em. They're not who you, as a business, want to keep happy.And even if they do walk away, what are they going to do, walk away from everything Canonical builds on top of? (Kernel, Gnome, everything they package?) Have RMS draw up a GPLv4 with n anti-Canonical clause that nobody in their right mind would adopt and/or kill off FOSS altogether? It's win-win.BeOS was in a much stronger position in the 90's to do what shuttleworth is trying to do now. And they still failed, even without having to deal with FOSS crapBeOS initially required Apple hardware to run, it was DoA. And it was doomed to failure from the beginning. the business plan was to sell out to Apple eventually. I'm not saying any of this would work successfully, I'm just saying that if you want to go the Linux route, as a business, that's the way to do it. Apple is a hardware company. And very little all of their software is open source anyways.Very little of their hardware was ever really Apple made. They're in the business of selling integrated solutions.But that's the the point, Apple was an example of how to use open source to your advantage. The whole foundation of their OS is open source, but the core components, around which they build their walled garden isn't. And that's how you differentiate yourself from the pack. The point is that Darwin and XNU aren't exactly useful without Cocoa on top, not to mention the open source Cocoa implementation is at least a decade behind.Let's be honest here: FOSS people are not the most social of beings.That's part of my point, ignore the crackpots, rhetoric and stupid inter project politics and you're theoretically good to go.
What exactly is the advantage of yet another desktop OS? The desktop is a solved problem.Still emerging platforms like tables, phones etc. have room for competition and improvement. Why not spend your douche dollars on something genuinely new instead of cloning Windows 98?Shuttleman wants to be Bill G. circa 1994. Shuttleman is twenty years too late.
@March 12, 2011 1:48 AMWhat would Shuttleman put in his 'walled garden' anyways that isn't everywhere else?A less-sucky GIMP? Angry tux in ruby?
Usually a startup finds a niche that is profitable to fill and then looks for ways to fill it.Canonical is the opposite: They've got their shitty debian distro and are now looking for a niche they can shove it into.Shuttleworth isn't a businessman. He's just a cashed-up RMS.
What would Shuttleman put in his 'walled garden' anyways that isn't everywhere else?I'm just playing devil's advocate here. Personally, I think Linux is a lost cause. The contents of the Walled/Windowed garden doesn;t have to be unique, Apple's desktop walled garden isn't either (The titles are exclusive, but they're analogues for stuff that's available elsewhere, some better (FCP, Logic) some wnot so much (Aperture) some roughly equivalent (Shake)).There isn't much need for yet another general purpose desktop system, Windows and OSX has that market covered. But there are niche markets to consider. I'd be lying if I said I don't long for another IRIX. A special purpose media-centric OS would definitely be intriguing, as well as commercially viable.Pantone and Hexachrome would be something worth considering, as I said, Pixel would be more ideal that Gimp, from a business perspective it is far, far ahead of Gimp, and as a one man show, could easily stand to cost substantially less than bringing Gimp up to speed.They could license H.264 and take it to the editing end and test those waters. People will pay for a good video editor.But there are a lot of possibilities besides that. Working with NVIDIA for example, instead of against them to provide high performance video is another thing that would set a given distro apart, and build around that, taking advantage of say, a Maya/XSI port already existing and that XFS already exists and already has 2 decades of optimizing it for that precise workflow. They could court AVID, who has been hurting on the market lately, as well.Licensing the VST SDK from Steinberg (which is freely available, but cannot be distributed) is another option, build a framework around that which allows people to bring their VST/i plugins with them and you've got another windowed garden opportunity, jackd is already quite competent at what it does, it just needs some work, and dump ALSA for the vastly better OSS4. Work with AVID (who owns DigiDesgn and M-AUDIO) to provide high performance audio.What media professional wouldn't be intrigued by the idea of a dedicated multimedia workstation? It's one of the few niches that hasn't been addressed, and while not a huge market by any means, it's a market that doesn't mind paying a premium for a good product.None of this will happen, of course. But I wouldn't object to being proved wrong.
Canonical is the opposite: They've got their shitty debian distro and are now looking for a niche they can shove it into.Which is why it's doomed to fail, unless they take to acting like a business, but even then, Linux is largely a lost cause.
but... but... Linux is inherently secure. Poogie-san told me so himself.
What the heck:googlestore.com/googlesearch.aspx?category=appsaspx?Google runs on Windows! And yes, that site is an official Google site (runs on Server 2008 according to netcraft).
So is jerkface the rockstar hater from a while back?
I like what Shuttleworth is doing with Unity. Fuck Gnome Shell. Unity is going to kick ass.
Gnome Shell and Unity both suck ass but at least Shuttlecock is TRYING to do something different but at the same time interoperate with others. Gnome is NIH headquarters.
I'm really liking Unity so far.
1. FreeDesktop.org is broken as a standards bodyNo way!!!! Shocking!!!
wait 'til you actually use it.
Why would anyone voluntarily use Loonix? Masochistic much?
Agree that Shuttleworth is fighting the last war. Whether or not desktops and servers are losing relevance, the fact is they are saturated. The only way to break in is to execute a flawless strategy, but, as has been said, the barriers are much lower in emerging, but related, segments, e.g. mobile & cloud. Maybe these ventures would be total failure, but they still have more upside than going head-to-head against Windows and Mac OS.
According to wikipedia, Shuttleworth is "just" a millionaire.Wasn't he a billionaire?Anyway, if I would be billionaire, I sure as hell wouldn't waste my money on something so boring like Desktop Linux.I think I would invest in something a lot more interesting - how about space travel (like Branson's Virgin Galactic)?The chance to be profitable with this any time soon is extremely small, but so is it with Desktop Linux too. But if you're going to waste money, building rocket prototypes must be a lot more fun than building Linux distris.
Shuttleworth must be a somewhat of a masochist.Having all this money and wasting your time with this FOSS politics crap.Holy crap man. It would only be bearable if you're getting paid to do it. But Shuttleworth PAYS to be involved in all this.Why not paying for a dominatrix? You get the same experience, but cheaper.
The only way to break in is to execute a flawless strategy, but, as has been said, the barriers are much lower in emerging, but related, segments, e.g. mobile & cloudYou do realize that mobile is by no means an "emerging" market, and that "cloud" is just a buzzword for server, right?
jerkface was the resident osnews hater and had the jerkface playhouse blog.as his popularity grew he became more and more freetarded, and is now 'mainstreaming' his blog, deleting comments and even defending the gpl over bsd licence at osnews.
The advertising from Microsoft seems to be related more to connecting to your own desktop remotely than anything "server" related.
How about some real, advanced home automation system?The ones I see installed are usually in very expensive houses and limited in functionality/scope. Yeah, just checking the temperature, turning off lights, changing music tracks. Boring stuff.How about automatic shutdown of unnecessary electronics when not in use (like TVs); sensing where people are and turning off lights where it's not needed (optional, but could be nice to save energy); cooking recipes directly in the kitchen without using a netbook; checking what's missing in the fridge and providing simple ways to print a shopping list or order food directly; better temperature control, to cool down or heat up the most used rooms during certain periods, and adjusting automatically when there are more or less people in the house (more people = more heat).There's so much more that can be automated, and it doesn't need to cost tens of thousands of euros to do it.Whenever I turn my PC on most of the stuff is automated, and I can just think about getting stuff done. Still, when I get home I have to micromanage everything by myself. I would have to do it anyway even with ultra expensive, modern automation systems because those do jack shit in that sense. I want to be able to get home and relax, and not spend millions to do just that.
Well, you become what you hate.Captcha: spredism
@March 12, 2011 12:03 PMWell, maybe it's just a streak.Let's not forget, Jerkface wrote some very good articles on his blog.Jerkface changed his nickname back from Casper again. I think he is on the way to his former self.
maybe he's on a drug called nt jerkface.
@March 12, 2011 12:38 PMWell maybe if he restores the posts he deleted and writes some honest-to-goodness Linux hate, then maybe.What is needed on the internet is more people speaking truth to Linux. Sadly still in short supply.
jesus, stop talking about that fucking nobody and his shitty blog
why have you forsaken us jerkface :(
@March 12, 2011 1:31 PM, et aljesus, stop talking about that fucking nobody and his shitty blogThree posts ago, one little edit of your moronic comments, and you're still all obsessing about this?Get a life. Alternatively, go back to slashdot. It's a nice, comfortable sort of place, where nobody is allowed to challenge your shallow little assumptions.
Time for an Angry Tux update!My friend is getting closer to having some drawings of the penguins done. I will post them whenever she gets the files to me.Awesome. It's great to have all this talent when people come togetherDrawings of the penguins almost done! OMG TALENT!
Meanwhile over at Python Angry Tux:For us developers it's time to get started proper - reading the manualAnd the newest feature:adding level creator will help grow the community around the game... just look at xmoto and all the levels users have createdAnd they still haven't decided on Git or SVN...
checking what's missing in the fridge and providing simple ways to print a shopping list or order food directly1. "print"? Like, on paper??2. Why the hell won't this "smart refrigerator" nonsense ever die?"Tell me, Refrigerator of Tomorrow, grandma's chili recipe calls for a red bell pepper: do I have one?""Refrigerator: is there enough of grandma's chili left over to feed everyone tonight? If not, is the leftover takeout Chinese still edible?"Smart refrigerators only make sense if you're a processed food junkie. Why do I never hear about the need for a smart cupboard to track my dry goods, or a smart cellar for tracking preserves? Oh, right: because then the inherent ridiculousness would be too obvious to wave away.
My DurdenFridge can order over 100 gallons of milk per second while rendering Sintel IV in 1000x1000 PCX files.
In other news, I managed to get Ubuntu 11.10 super pre alpha -24 to run on a semi-dried dog turd.
and you got NO idea how hard it was to shove 16Gb of RAM into a semi-dried dog turd just so it could run stable.
don't pick on the angry tux developersit's like picking on the disabled
Drawings of the penguins almost done! OMG TALENT!Wonder how that will translate into pixel art. Wonder if these guys even realize that you can't just scan in a notebook drawing, scale it to 16x16 pixels, and call it a day.
and dont pick on jerkface plz
scan in a notebook drawingProlly the next 20 pages in the thread will be them trying to get the scanner to work
How can you have a level creator for a game you haven't even written a line of code for? God, these people have no sense of how to develop software AT ALL.<tard modeoh and don't pick on jerkface. rockstar haters should be worshipped!!!</tard mode
but mentioning jerkface is the only way to get dr. loser to appear!maybe dr.loser is jerkface's partner in the new site.. hmmm..
The dude Caboose885 has a disturbing avatar, yet I can't work out why..
BUT BUT adding level creator will help grow the community around the game...WANT PROOF?or look at the PS3 hit game LittleBigPlanet... over 3 million levels created
The advertising from Microsoft seems to be related more to connecting to your own desktop remotely than anything "server" related.OMG that's new technology!!!11!!!111
rockstar haters have the right to delete your moronic comments and challenge your shallow little assumptions.they have a BLOG on the INTERNETS. that makes them serious business.so write agreeing comments, click on the adsense, shut the fuck up and be grateful.
yay just saw Tron Legacy:Very trippy movie with Ziggy Stardust, some Kraftwerk ripoff an with that fat guy from Youtube with the funny costume. But wasn't the movie supposed to be in 3D? I feel cheated....
God, these people have no sense of how to develop software AT ALL.And it's not like they really have to design anything. There just cloning an existing game. They have a reference implementation right in front of them.
lol just found out that there is a ISP here in Portugal that now sells a 360MB download bandwidth connection.http://www.zon-iris.com/#/pt/pacotes-fibra-360 I wonder if it's possible to download every Linux distro available in a single day?
i mean 360 Mbbtw you pay 140 Euros per month
The dude Caboose885 has a disturbing avatar, yet I can't work out why..His avatar:http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=900617reminds you of Aaron Seigo (KDE mastermind):http://www.blogger.com/profile/06688610708513558784That's why.
Or they could license h.264 and do the same, and not just stop at playback, but cover the editing aspect too, fork the work on top of it as much as you want, it's useless without the license.Spittlecock has already licensed h.264(more ideal would be to buy out Pixel editor, and sell it but meh)Or get them to sell Pixel in the Software Centre and take a cut of the sales.the barriers are much lower in emerging, but related, segments, e.g. mobile & cloud. Maybe these ventures would be total failure, but they still have more upside than going head-to-head against Windows and Mac OS.Which is what Spittlecock is already doing.
@MARCH 12, 2011 3:27 PMYes, but they haven't even written a line of code yet are still debating their source control and are ALREADY talking about designing a level editor. Level editors are something you design AFTER you have a working engine and game. A level designer is worthless without a game to design levels for...
@MARCH 12, 2011 3:22 PMI know!Seriously though, isn't the whole point of the hater culture that we DON'T hold people up as being above criticism? This whole "defend jerkface" crap is reminiscent of freetards with RMS. We rightfully laughed out the last person who tried to claim rockstar status amongst us haters and we should be doing the same with jerkface instead of people like dr loser trying to deify him. Dr Loser did the same thing when I pointed out here the stupid 7 = Vista SP2 thing that Jerkface was posting and he twisted that around as if I was a Linux defender or something. It was bizarre.
Or get them to sell Pixel in the Software Centre and take a cut of the sales.Oh hang on, I forgot...What sales?
Seriously though, isn't the whole point of the hater culture that we DON'T hold people up as being above criticism? This whole "defend jerkface" crap is reminiscent of freetards with RMS. We rightfully laughed out the last person who tried to claim rockstar status amongst us haters and we should be doing the same with jerkface instead of people like dr loser trying to deify him. Dr Loser did the same thing when I pointed out here the stupid 7 = Vista SP2 thing that Jerkface was posting and he twisted that around as if I was a Linux defender or something. It was bizarre.It's okay. We know you are a freetard pretending to be a hata.
I don't think you guys realize this but Dr Loser is more than a Linux hater. He hates everything and anything including himself.
The advertising from Microsoft seems to be related more to connecting to your own desktop remotely than anything "server" related.Wow. That's new to me. Everyone else has been using it as a term for putting stuff on the intarweb, or outsourcing the data centre to someobody else datacentre, or really doing anything remotely.Now it's a buzzword for running network services on your home computer? And I thought the "cloud" couldn't get any more retarded.There's so much more that can be automated, and it doesn't need to cost tens of thousands of euros to do it.Many of the things you describe would require real time. General purpose OSes don't do that, that' part of why it tends to cost a pretty penny. You'd be amazed at what it takes from a system perspective to make a thermostat or traffic light work reliably.Spittlecock has already licensed h.264It's a start, but is he doing anything else with it?Or get them to sell Pixel in the Software Centre and take a cut of the sales.That doesn't really address the problem of the core market not being the paying for software type, and it's why it's doomed to fail. They don;t go all the way, just settle for some shitty nonsensical half way point.How does this differentiate Ubuntu from the SteamingTurdPileOfMediocrity(tm)? There's quite a big difference between licensing some tech requisite by a market, and building around it, and taking something that's already available for Linux and putting it in an app store.You're still targeting 'Ubuntu users' who generally don;t pay for software, and you're not really offering anything different that anything else, you're not even ensuring that it doesn't break between updates!They'll talk about "tough decisions" reffering to changing the look of scroll bars or which side of the window the buttons go on, but when it comes to the hard business decisions, it apparently always comes down to doing the least required effort with no long term plan whatsoever.Or get them to sell Pixel in the Software Centre and take a cut of the sales.Oh hang on, I forgot...What sales?Exactly. Having a store doesn't necessarily translate into sales and adding a product to it doesn't mean people who didn't buy it before are going to magically start buying it because it's featured in a store integrated into a desktop system that is installed by a group that doesn't pay for software.The whole rationale seems to be "but it works for Apple" without even thinking about the complete different markets they cater to and the implementations. The appStore works because it's the only way to get apps without jailbreaking, it also works because the target market isn't adverse to buying software.There's a complete inability to think outside the box on Linux circles, only to copy poorly. They keep talking about adding things that would appeal to "normal" users (meaning not them) without ever bothering make the underlying system appealing to normal users, understanding what a normal user is, and operating under the false notion that the desktop is a solved system.All the while, they'll contune to cater to people who are the opposite of "normal users" while trying to appeal to "normal users".Of course you can't alienate the freetards (or can you) because that's the userbase and there's no effort to court the "normal users" they obsess over.It's a clusterfuck within a clusterfuck within a clusterfuck. That's what Linux is, a fucking InceptionOfClusterfucks(tm).
It was bizarre.@March 12, 2011 1:56 PM doesn't even make sense.Why would a haters, fed up with jerkface deleting, go back to slashdot?
There's a complete inability to think outside the box on Linux circles, only to copy poorly.The whole free software movement is built in copying, poorly.The started copying UNIX, then moved to ripping off windows and now are plagiarizing OS X.The result being a unix userland from the 80s, OOP frameworks from the 90s that resemble MFC, and a desktop that vaguely resembles last years Mac.
and operating under the false notion that the desktop is a solved system.should be "is not a solved problem"Also, to CloudGuy. to borrow a line from my favourite CEO, Mr. Larry, "Could computing is not only to future of computing, it's also the present, and the entire past of computing [...] it's a computer... on a network!"it's funnybecause it's trueBefore it was called "cloud", it was called "SaaS", before that it was called "On Demand" before that it was called "the intarweb". New name ~= new tech.PS. OMGOMG Blogger is cloud WE IS IN DA FUTURE
Jerkface is a hater honeypot who has stolen away the most boring commenters from LHB.Now wecan read LHB without running in to a 10 page wall of text from Dr. Loser. Hurray!!
This whole "defend jerkface" crap is reminiscent of freetards with RMS.Is jerkface even aware that some haters are pissed? Would he even care?
Who cares if he cares, why do we care?
Ellison is just speaking the language of his clients: middle managers. Tech press invent these terms to sell copy, then the marketdroids have to match up the technology de jure with shit that actually exists.And in 5 years after the middle managers replaced their crusty old wireless routers with new shiny 'Cloud Points' or some such, the cycle begins again with a new term.I predict in 2015 they will call it 'wave computing' and it will have something to do with networks.
@ March 12, 2011 5:49 PMNo he has said he doesn't visit LHB anymore.
The freetard youtube comments are of course, priceless.No no no,He is not getting the overall idea.The term "cloud" is just the sparkle of new beginning of computing.That started 20 years ago. AOL is cloud, btw.Eventhou website like sales force is just 1 of the app on the net, but it isnt just that.Of course it is.Look @ html5, upcoming Chrome OS.What do you imagine html5 runs on? What do you think ChromeOS connects to?Chrome Browser was beginning of "cloud computing" running "RIGHT" on client side.So, cloud computing is browsers now. Didn't Mosaic start that, oh, 20 years ago?Example gmail!, isnt it "cloud computing" email done right?It's generic webmail. Webmail is cloud. How the fuck do you think it works? The magic mail pixies receive your letters up in the heavens? You connect to a fucking server, you dipshit.How about Google spreadsheet, does sharing spreadsheet "LIVE" online ring the "CLOUD COMPUTING" bell????How about time sharing. Grid Computing? Networking? Does that ring a bell? Same principal.The whole reason we adopted TCP/IP was to do "cloud" computing. It's the fucking network. People are such dipshits it's mind boggling.Really, Oracle scared of the cloud? Where do you think p"cloud" providers run, who do you think provides them with their databases (#1 on the RDBMS market), the hardware (#4 server vendor) or the middleware (top 3)?There are people actually calling the death of Cisco at the hands of the cloud. CISCO! These people are batshit insane.
Cloud Computing, see: dumb terminal, VT100, Client/Server, WorldWideWeb, Internet PC, XML, SOAP, AJAX
more ideal would be to buy out Pixel editor, and sell it but mehYou mean purchase the image editor that has yet to reach 1.0 five years after "final" beta testing was announced?Why?
Wait, why is anon-tard so mad that some people are referring to it as cloud and not servers? It's like saying "OMG that guy is not a hacker, he is just a systems coder!!! NOOBSS!!" or "OMG that guy is not doing Data Mining, he is just performing a statistical analysis on a large amount of data!!!!111!! NOOBS!!"I could go on...
Not sure, but he could make his posts a little shorter I think..
You mean purchase the image editor that has yet to reach 1.0 five years after "final" beta testing was announced?Yes. And as sad as it is, baring Corel PhotoPaint 9, Pixel is the best, most feature-complete raster editor available for Linux. That being said, it would cost less to buy out and develop than it would to bring Gimp or Krita up to speed. That's how sad the state of graphics is in Linux.I'm not saying it's omg insta commercial viability lol, just that even as single step it's more sensible than the OSX/iOS-wannbe-abortion going on.Wait, why is anon-tard so mad that some people are referring to it as cloud and not servers? It's about the hype around cloud computing and the talk about how networked computers are going to somehow kill off... Networked computers. Think of how retarded that is, for a moment.Or how "cloud" is somehow and "emerging market". I don't care what people call it, though I am bothered by hyping it as some form of new tech, or anything but a marketing gimmick. It's the sae as the Ahax web 2.0 revolution except on a much larger scale of retardation.
It is not just getting Linux up to speed with modern apps, but keeping it there also.Even if Shuttledouche spends $$$ to port awesome to Linux, in 5 years time when all that is now obsolete is he going to spend more $$$ to update it yet again?The Daddy Warbucks model of software development will do nothing but essentially give welfare to FOSS devs.
Pixel is the best, most feature-complete raster editor available for Linux.Sorry, but no. Even if Pavel would get off his dead ass and re-issue licenses for previous purchases from existing customers, Pixel wouldn't even be close to Idruna's PhotogenicsHDR.
Why do you want to do high-end image ending in Linux anyways?That's like saying you really want to win a car race by only using a horse and buggy.
Jesus H some you really don't pay attention. Jerkface was trolling with that nick. He talked before about temporarily going incognito to sneak by Slashdot admins.Looks like he trolled a few of his fans as well. Or it is just Adam finding a new way to be an asshead.
I was never a fan. "Rockstar" haters like Dr Loser and Jerkface are lame as shit.
I was never a fan. "Rockstar" haters like Dr Loser and Jerkface are lame as shit.Agree.
He talked before about temporarily going incognito to sneak by Slashdot admins.Running a blog that (very) occasionally says not-so-nice things about Linux, DOES NOT turn you into Julian Assange.What an ego.
Jesus H some you really don't pay attention. That's because the community (hate that term) is here, not at binplay.Last I checked jerkface had posted this exact same gnome story, in more detail and a day before LHB, and still only had < 20 comments, counting jerkface's own posts. LHB is pushing 120.
I was never a fan. "Rockstar" haters like Dr Loser and Jerkface are lame as shit.TMR and Joe for president!
Why do you want to do high-end image ending in Linux anyways?Simple, if you really want to do high end anything, you would be well off getting a few hackers and developers to tailor a Linux OS + Applications for you. Or get VxWorks on embedded systems if you have a lot of money.
Simple, if you really want to do high end anything, you would be well off getting a few hackers and developers to tailor a Linux OS + Applications for you.That's absurd. Silicon Graphics itself couldn't make Linux into a high end multimedia platform. There's no reason to believe Canonical or "a few hackers" can.I too, would welcome another IRIX, but Linux just isn't it. Not in ay reasonable time frame anyway, you don't build a special purpose system on a general purpose foundation."A few hackers" won't cut it, you need a whole team of paid, professional developers who know what they're doing for that kind of endeavor. You need system designers and engineers for that sort of thing.And Applications? "A few hackers" have had nearly 20 years to put together something even remotely comparable to AVID, FCP, Nuendo, Live, Logic, Shake, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Maya, ect, etc, etc. It hasn't happened. Not even close.Or get VxWorks on embedded systems if you have a lot of money.Cisco via Linksys has proved that given sufficient volume, VxWorks is more cost effective than Linux (owning to allowing you to cut down on hardware and that it's a special purpose system).CAPTCHA debull, how fitting.
That's because the community (hate that term) is here, not at binplay.By "community" you mean the 5 people who are in denial that the glory days of LHB are over.
Last I checked jerkface had posted this exact same gnome story, in more detail and a day before LHB, and still only had < 20 comments,So? Ars gets millions of hits per month and many of their articles only get a dozen comments. I go where the content is so instead of whining like a little bitch how about making your own haterz community website? The whole fucking internet is filled with loonz and you want to bitch about one of the few places that isn't.
That's like saying you really want to win a car race by only using a horse and buggy.Silly English, never discount the Amish!
By "community" you mean the 5 people who are in denial that the glory days of LHB are over.And the glory days of Binary Playhouse are just beginning?
binplay isn't about linux hate anyway. it's mainly a tablet/iPad comparison site.
And the glory days of Binary Playhouse are just beginning?plox that place jumped the shark when he changed the name from Jerkface Playhouse.
plox that place jumped the shark when he changed the name from Jerkface Playhouse.binplay isn't about linux hate anyway. it's mainly a tablet/iPad comparison site.Case in point.
wwhhhaaaaaaaa jerkface won't rub my tummy...whaaaaaaaseriously though jerkface was never a full on linux hater like LHB, you act like this is news or something. if you want a linux hatin' club for you and your pube-free friends then try linsux.
wwhhhaaaaaaaa jerkface won't rub my tummy...whaaaaaaaTell me, would you suck jerkie's cock if he washed it?
Wouldn't your time be better spent by obsessing over nuclear meltdowns?
Wouldn't your time be better spent by obsessing over nuclear meltdowns?Panicking/obsessing won't accomplish anything, we'll find out soon if the efforts to cool the cores has worked.If not, being in the northern hemisphere, best I can do is hope for rain or anything that limits the range of the fallout.
Maybe, but he'd shutup about jerkwad.
Complaining about jerface has a much more pleasant tone to it than the doom and gloom of nuclear disaster.I'd rather the former over the latter. The thought that some of those reactors have archaic shielding and are older than the one that went up in Chernobyl is rather distressing.
OK guys. I was the first one (in the "it buuuuuuurns" thread) who complained about Jerkie's deletion of comments.And I wrote this comment on his blog:http://tinyurl.com/6etm2bo("where have all the freetards gone?")So maybe I will come across as a rockstar hater now, but as the guy who basically started the jerkface topic here:Please, can we stop talking about it? Yeah, Jerkie made a failure, well, everyone does. I think he noticed that he doesn't make any friends with deleting comments and is back to his former self.Let's get over it.
Kind of fitting when you consider what this "blog post" is apparently about right? How the stupid "freetards" can't get along, right? Let us laugh at them! We five Winbreds always get along!
The funny thing, queefer, is that we haters have never really even suggested that we hold any sort of a unified front, or that we necessarily agree on everything, or that we even strictly get along.We're not freetards trying to pretend to be part of some sort of wannabe movement, with all that stupid little insignificant internal politickin' where everyone is scared shitless to offend anyone else, and constantly need to reaffirm that all is fine and dandy and we still hold some unified front on some cause that we won't admit that nobody actually agreed on the interpretation.Yeah, we argue amongst ourselves, because nobody is above criticism, nobody is above being told they're wrong, and nobody is above being called out, and since we're human beings, it's generally expected for there to be differences of opinion.Shocking, I know.
i mean 360 Mbbtw you pay 140 Euros per monthNot bad, really. Outside of leased fiber lines, which cost thousands monthly, that kind of bandwidth just isn't available in the States. But, if it was, it'd cost at least that much. In fact, if a plan like this were available at the "consumer" and small business level, I bet it would probably cost at least $500 (€360), and I think I'm lowballing it. Additionally, providers here don't upgrade your cap when you upgrade your service so your 360 Mbit connection could be terminated after consuming 100 GB, which would take 37 minutes at full capacity, lol.
So Queef how is that "fan club" of your 4 sockpuppets doing? You going to bring back snickerdouche eventually?
I used to be a rockstar hater, then I went anonymous again, it's far less lame and far more lulzy to be anon.You can say what the fuck you want and not worry about some lame 'persona' or reputation.
Blogger nom workaround attempt #1...isn't the whole point of the hater culture that we DON'T hold people up as being above criticism?Jerkface is trying to weasel around a set of de facto standards we've implicitly worked out by saying he's not associated with the Linux hating subculture, but that contradicts his being the #1 "named" LH poster at one point and his fleecing feedback and commitments for his own venture. Maybe it's a whole reverse-troll thing and he leveraged then cast off "the community" in GPL style, but I'd ask what the point would be.In any case, I agree with him on some things but not others. Most people who visit his blog seem to be of the same mind. This wasn't an issue until recently. When he started deleting stuff he suddenly gained lackeys (or maybe they were just dormant prior). Jerkface's skin isn't nearly as thick as he wants to represent. I think the lackeys detect that and jump in.
Blogger nom workaround attempt #1...This whole "defend jerkface" crap is reminiscent of freetards with RMS.Most participants in this subculture are decidedly anti-celebrity (thus the never ending barrage of Anonymous comments) but "named" commenters still manage to gain undue credibility. Arguments are much better when everybody is anonymous. You lose the cohesive factor (am I really replying to the same guy?) but gain the ability to rely solely on argument, rather than politics.he twisted that around as if I was a Linux defender or something. It was bizarre.I like it when "If you don't agree with me then you're a freetard" when it's done sarcastically, but some people seem to mean it when they say it.
I don't think you guys realize this but Dr Loser is more than a Linux hater. He hates everything and anything including himself.I stopped conversing with him due to this. I think he's gotten better since "he works for Microsoft". I guess he was unemployed before. Still, he's like the emo kid that never grew out of it. It's a shame because he's quite intelligent.
That's what Linux is, a fucking InceptionOfClusterfucks(tm).We need to go deeper...Spinlocks?O_o
Why would a haters, fed up with jerkface deleting, go back to slashdot?Dr Loser is a reverse-freetard. He thinks if you don't tow the anti-freetard party line (whatever that is) then you must be a freetard and thus think Slashdot, OSNews, and Ubuntu Forums are the shit yo.
I used to be a rockstar hater, then I went anonymous again, it's far less lame and far more lulzy to be anon.You can say what the fuck you want and not worry about some lame 'persona' or reputation.Agree. I became a named poster during the push of TMR, JoeMonco, and Dr Loser but found it limiting. What's the point? To get "fame" for a handle you don't want associated with you anyway? Linux Hater was an innovater, in ways obvious and not obvious.
seriously though jerkface was never a full on linux hater like LHB, you act like this is news or something.Did you miss that comment someone dug up from 2009 where jerkface claimed to be the ultimate rockstar hater?
Wow. No-one even bothered replying to the latest Adam King trolling attempt.Seems he really has jumped the shark.
Did you miss that comment someone dug up from 2009 where jerkface claimed to be the ultimate rockstar hater?You are full of shit. Cite one post where he said that.
Jerkface has been writing posts about how linux is fine for the server for years.He has never claimed to be a rockstar hater. I thought it was pretty obvious that he is a digital agnostic. It really smells like queefs in here.
So Dr Loser was a Adam Queef sockpuppet all along. Interesting.
Blah-blah-blah... Rockstar hater, blah-blah-blah...
@MARCH 13, 2011 10:53 AM.net jerkface said...I've been using the .net jerkface name for quite awhile here on this blog. And I'm one of the biggest Linux haters on the planet, don't insult me like that. I have to ask who the fuck are you? This whole thing is getting fucking ridiculous.June 27, 2009 3:02 PMTranslation: How dare you criticize me!! I'M A ROCKSTAR HATER!!!
Where is the link?
I just looked up the quote through Google. It's a fake blogger account:http://www.blogger.com/profile/09732209541572443688
Link in name since Blogger nom nomed. Err, I guess it wasn't about criticizing him it was someone impersonating him and then him backlashing about how dare anyone do that because HE'S A MOTHER FUCKING ROCKSTAR!!!@MARCH 13, 2011 11:26 AMNope, the link is the real .net jerkface. He was responding to a guy that was a fake.
What's the point? To get "fame" for a handle you don't want associated with you anyway?Making Ohio Ham throw those special little tantrums only the name Kharkhalash can trigger? That's gotta be worth something!
Slashdot, OSNews, and Ubuntu Forums are the shit yo.Yo, but they are shit.
WinbredCivilWar(tm)Cripes Adam, can't you even figure out how to link to your own TM, you tard? I even provide textbox with a pre-built link tag and everything.I guess Queefer can't be bothered to learn how to copy and paste.
Linux doesn't support that.
Linux doesn't support that.Don't worry though, YouDontNeedThat(TM)(Adam, notice how I have a clickable html link? Yeah, guess how hard it was for me to copy and paste this!)
LETS GET ONE FUCKING THNIG .CLEAR NO ONE GIVESA FUCK ABOUTJERKFACE OR HIS SHIHTTY STUPID ASSESD BLOG WTF SERIOUSLY NOW STFU ABOUT THAT LIL BITCHass MOTHERFUCKER K.Sent from my iPad
You can say what the fuck you want and not worry about some lame 'persona' or reputation.This was my biggest problem with linsux, dr losers blog and SoC.. having to be a 'named hater'.BTW WTF happened to linsux? Looks like they've become the 4chan fan club they always really were..CAPTCHA: sedness.. sadness caused from sed fucking up
I think he's gotten better since "he works for Microsoft".I grew wary when he doxed himself a couple years back.. seemed like a cry for help.
LAST NIGHT I HAD A VERY GOOD TIME SUCKING COCK.Sent from my iPad
Nope, the link is the real .net jerkface. He was responding to a guy that was a fake.You were caught lying so why are you still trying to play your little game? Does jerkface really bother you that much?Here is the full thread so everyone can see what a dumbass you are:http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2009/06/fail-train-that-is-munich.htmlYou are probably the same person that tried faking him then which is why you brought up that comment. But of course you didn't actually link to the thread in case someone might figure it out. Goddamn you really suck, you probably are Adam.
That fake blogger account even has a fake blog:http://netjerkface.blogspot.com/Way to prove nothing, dumbass.
iPadding this from my iPad
Cinelerra supports OpenGL shaders on NVidia graphics cards. The video crunching power that was once exclusively the domain of SGI minicomputers is now yours. NVidia users can run many effects in realtime instead of rendering them. OpenGL also opens up new video resolutions, up to 4096x4096 on high end cards.http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php
Yeah, Dr. Loser is an emo fag. Glad he's gone.
Dr Loser and Jerkface should no longer be listened to. They are traitors to our movement. Let's stop using computers actually. Let's all stop criticizing Linux.
Well the 'fake' nt jerkface with the blogger account keeps going on about how he's going make his own site.. this is in June 09.The first post at Jerkface Playhouse is August 09.
Linsux was always kind of bizarre.. never really anti linux though.More like a cross between UbuntuForums and 4Chan.
@March 13, 2011 2:05 PMSorry man, but that is the real jerkface. Read his comments about creating a new site.Looks like he created a new blogger account for jfplayhouse and was never heard from again.
OMG. Right on cue, the logo contest begins:What about a project icon for SF? Ideas anyone?..I think a good project icon would be a smaller version of Angry Tux.What does Angry Tux look like:My friend is getting closer to having some drawings of the penguins done.Even the LOGO is vaporware..
@ March 13, 2011 2:08 PMAdam Williamson, you are a putz. But thanks for the lulz.
Why does blogger keep eating my posts?It is clear in that thread as to who the real jerkface is. The guy who made the comment about being the biggest linux hater links to a fake blog while the other sounds genuine. The same person (probably Adam) who made that fake jerkface is trying to use him again. How pathetic.
I'm in the market for a new laptop and what brings me joy are all the disappointed Linux users who are locked out of using Optimus, which is NVIDIA's dynamic GPU switching technology.Optimus support means you'll use the low power Sandy Bridge IGP most of the time but when a game is fired up (or something else that extensively uses DirectX or some HDMI features) it automatically switches to NVIDIA graphics that consume more power but offer better performance as well. So it's like the best of both worlds when it comes to graphics and heat/battery, though Optimus is offered only with low-to-mid discrete options at the moment.Anyway, the only thing about this setup Linux users can take advantage of is Sandy Bridge IGP and (maybe) CUDA. The best part? NVIDIA has no plans whatsoever to improve the situation. That's because X.org/DRI doesn't actually support anything close to GPU switching:http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2183477#post2183477http://email@example.com/msg00007.htmlBut wait! All is not lost! Cue esoteric workaround!http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677780Too bad it probably won't work anyway for most laptop models. FAIL.CAPTCHA: hydons. The FOSS "equivalent" of hadrons.
It is clear in that thread as to who the real jerkface is.I agree that "04003209021321376952" is likely the real Jerkface but it's not like the claim is incontestable. Maybe if someone did some research on earlier postings but seeing how there are two jerkface accounts not in current use the door is open to speculation.However, the "real" Jerface's profile is ironic:http://www.blogger.com/profile/04003209021321376952"don't have a blog. As if I would use the binary garbage that is blogger.com."LOL.
Both the fake and real 2008 Jerkface still beat the 2011 one
Hey guys you usually know good Windows freeware. Where can I find an app that replaces the default Windows "cmd.exe" console with something better? Thanks haters!
windows powershell. it is bundled with win7. yeesh.
This was my biggest problem with linsux, dr losers blog and SoC.. having to be a 'named hater'.Would it help if I added the ability to post anonymously? Or, at least, without displaying your account name?The issue I have with opening it up is that it becomes very difficult to throttle spammers.
windows powershell. it is bundled with win7. yeesh.I need a new terminal emulator for cmd.exe not PowerShell.
Besides the Powershell "shell" looks more like an IDE. I don't need that. I just want something simple that supports tabs and resizing.
what do you want a terminal emulator on windows for?f
I have a bunch of command line programs I need to run to build some scientific software. Is there no terminal emulators for Windows or something? PLEASE HELP thx.
Would it help if I added the ability to post anonymously?Why not drop accounts altogether and do hashtags?
I have a bunch of command line programs I need to run to build some scientific software.what software is this?
I have a bunch of command line programs I need to run to build some scientific software. Is there no terminal emulators for Windows or something? PLEASE HELP thx.This is not a technical support blog. Go away.
Besides the Powershell "shell" looks more like an IDE. I don't need that.Smells like troll.
I smelled it right when he asked a command line question on Windows. Only freetards use the command line.
and only freetards have refined tastes in terminal emulators
@March 13, 2011 2:37 PMAngry Tux (C++) is waiting on 'drawings from a friend'.Angry Tux (Python) are deciding the icon for the sourceforge account, and version control.So much serious. So much business.
wonder if troll is now frantically googling for windows scientific software to continue trolling..
I was not trolling at all. What the fuck is wrong with you people today? You guys are acting worse than freetards.
I was not trolling at all. What the fuck is wrong with you people today? You guys are acting worse than freetards.Stuff it, queefer. I know it's you.
No. We call out BS not defend it.
Stuff it, queefer. I know it's you.So Adam "Queefer" King, Why are you accusing other people of being yourself? It's so obvious. You are trying to make us look mentally handicapped, but it won't work. Give it up queefer boy.
Still waiting for the name of this awesome scientific software...
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