Linux Hater's Blog: Sounds like fun

Friday, March 11, 2011

Sounds like fun

http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/03/11/lessons-learned/

tl;dr of the tl;dr: C.L.U.S.T.E.R.F.U.C.K.

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Anonymous said...: binplay is a waste of time, from some guy ranting about irrelevant shit.

Not only LHB can't be bothered posting anything now, but a lot of the best commenters are now gone, like kharkalash... We're just stuck with Ohio Ham for the LULZ and that's about it.; May 28, 2011 at 8:12 PM
Anonymous said...: piestar was a million times better than binplay. Too bad it hasn't had any updates in far too long... And LHB is on its way to become that too.

Piestar died when he stopped updating. LHB still gets comments.

BTW I don't think Piestar would have been good much longer anyway, especially after he started his Linux desktop 'project.'; May 28, 2011 at 8:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Talking about embedded & Arduino. I really wonder how NXP manages to get away with this.

In their own lpcxpresso suite, they have their own version of Eclipse that you don't get the source for, along with their GCC fork, which you also don't get the source for, and finally their custom, enhanced-for-ARM version of GDB which also has a hardcoded limit: it can't debug code >8KB unless you enter a serial number.

Yep, they've made open source apps into a suite that needs to be activated online, with serial numbers, and not releasing source for it all, despite being GPL.; May 28, 2011 at 8:18 PM
Anonymous said...: I really wonder how NXP manages to get away with this.

LGPL; May 28, 2011 at 8:19 PM
Anonymous said...: LGPL still requires release of source.; May 28, 2011 at 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...: LGPL still requires release of source.

Only the bits that are already LGPL.

They can point to gnu.org to meet that obligation.; May 28, 2011 at 8:28 PM
Anonymous said...: This is getting ridiculous.

fucking ridiculous.; May 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Jerkface was a regular poster in 2008-9. He was .NET Jerkface back then and I think something else before that (like .NET Asshole or something). Jerkface had a nice tagteam going with "the codewich" in the early LHB days.; May 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Either ways, the stack they provide mostly blows. And the most LOL-worthy thing? Only CVS integration. Welcome to 10 years ago!

Hell, they can't even do a desktop icon right... They haven't heard of transparency yet.; May 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Jerkface was a regular poster in 2008-9.

Why'd he abandon LHB?

Does he really think binplay's gonna make him rich?; May 28, 2011 at 9:08 PM
Anonymous said...: People who annoy you:; May 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM
Anonymous said...: People who annoy you

Well it looks like the troll is back.

Well at least the last 50 comments have been good..; May 28, 2011 at 9:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Jerkface forked from LHB along with Piestar. Somewhere midstream he changed his target audience from Linux hater leftovers to anti-piracy quasi-hipster programmer dudes who also like baseball (but not enough to actually go to games).

I think he got some traffic spikes from places like Slashdot and SVJN and let it get into his head or something. He also milked "I was right about SkyOS" for all it was worth. Speaking of SkyOS, his OSNews posts have become radically weaker over time. He's basically become little more than the resident troll when posting over there.

For a wannabe entrepreneurial dude he sure lacks grasp of audience engagement and cultivation. e says he doesn't give a shit about LHB or its commenters but they clearly make up the overwhelming majority of his audience. We may trash guys like SJVN and Pogson but what they do right is engage their audience consistently. Jerkface is all over the place. It wouldn't surprise me to see his next post covering the best sushi joints in Seattle or why skateboard parks should be banned. Binary Playhouse is really a Facebook profile on a Blogger page.; May 28, 2011 at 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Wait, there are good Sushi joints in Seattle?; May 28, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Only the bits that are already LGPL.

They can point to gnu.org to meet that obligation.

I thought they had to host their own sources if changed?; May 28, 2011 at 10:12 PM
Anonymous said...: He's basically become little more than the resident troll when posting over there.

Even his OSNews posts have been getting lame.

For some reason he thinks by dialling down the anti-linux stuff his blog will get more popular.; May 28, 2011 at 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Binary Playhouse, formerly known as Jerkface Playhouse, started as "If I make a site, will you guys come?" That's probably the real reason he gets trashed so much. He claims to have never cared about LHB but his site is a direct outgrowing of it. Then he decides to alienate his core audience in favor of one that doesn't exist (fair weather baseball fans software business owners who like tablets and coffee shops), at least not on his site.; May 28, 2011 at 10:23 PM
Anonymous said...: For some reason he thinks by dialling down the anti-linux stuff his blog will get more popular.

He's trying to sell out but I don't think he knows to whom.; May 28, 2011 at 10:26 PM
TM Repository said...: For some reason he thinks by dialling down the anti-linux stuff his blog will get more popular.

The amount of FUD is pretty low these days so I don't blame him. The freetards have mostly hobbled back to their holes. They're more of a rash compared to the comments/forum infection they once were.

Chalk it up to a generational shift; The kids are graduating and getting real jobs. In another 2-3 years we'll probably see another significant spike in evangelism.

Likewise, many FOSS projects have become mainstream (Firefox, Chrome, JQuery, etc.) in that people other than FOSS followers actually know about them. Like any good radical youth, they stop liking something once everyone else starts liking it. "I liked Firefox before they got big, those sellouts".

Also, it might have something to do with the FOSStards slowly starting to realize that Google is just a big corporation after all; Just out to make money and no better than Microsoft or Apple. The knife the FOSStards willfully let Google put in their backs is now being twisted just a bit too much for them to apologize for.; May 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Maybe it's that "silent partner" that's pulling his strings. Even though he hasn't said two words about the guy, I already know who he's dealing with. I've worked with quite a few of crypto-sociopath web 2.0 marketer types. Probably some sweet talker from one of his contractor jobs. For some reason programmers/web-builders are super-susceptible to trendy marketers, even though they always claim immunity to manipulation.; May 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Anonymous said...: The amount of FUD is pretty low these days so I don't blame him.

Even if that's the case he's done a lousy job at audience management and demographic focus. His piracy fetish is borderline OCD. He obviously can't articulate what he wants to say otherwise every other post wouldn't be a rehash of what he just said. Furthermore, he keeps threatening to post some full iron-clad academic level GPL rebuttal but perpetually comes up empty. His audience has a huge, repeatedly iterated interest in such a thing but the response over the past 2 years has been "maybe later".; May 28, 2011 at 10:35 PM
TM Repository said...: I love this attempt at reverse trolling Jerkface by claiming he sold out. Can't refute him? Don't feel like participating in the discussion? Then try to undermine his credibility instead. Genius.

I'd say he's right on topic considering he's always stated that he all about the tech industry in general. He never claimed to be some dedicated anti-Linux crusader.; May 28, 2011 at 10:36 PM
TM Repository said...: Even if that's the case he's done a lousy job at audience management and demographic focus. His piracy fetish is borderline OCD.

Piracy and freetards go hand in hand in most cases.; May 28, 2011 at 10:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey look it's BM Suppository, #1 Jerkface asskisser. You'd agree with him if he said the sky was green.; May 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM
Anonymous said...: The freetards have mostly hobbled back to their holes. They're more of a rash compared to the comments/forum infection they once were.

Really? So we can declare victory, shut down TM Repo and move on to Macintosh hate and fighting game piracy!

There's a reason LHB still gets comments, you know..; May 28, 2011 at 10:43 PM
Anonymous said...: full iron-clad academic level GPL rebuttal

LOL I remember that!

Maybe after companies stop making PC games, he'll get around to it..; May 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Anonymous said...: What's funny, TM, is that the only ones concerned about "credibility" are you nametards. You're all about reputation management and think everyone else is, too. It's kinda funny because all the anonymouses are about the arguments while you're constantly doing the reputation thing.; May 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey look it's BM Suppository, #1 Jerkface asskisser.

You sure about that? He has heavy competition from JoeMongo and Dr Idiot. The latter tries especially hard with his thesaurus hunting to impress his would-be master.; May 28, 2011 at 10:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Can't refute him? Don't feel like participating in the discussion?

What's his latest rant? XBOX360 is enough for anybody! Refuted in the first 3 comments anyways.

He never claimed to be some dedicated anti-Linux crusader.

He was. Then he changed to Binplay and went 'mainstream'. Classic bait-and-switch.; May 28, 2011 at 10:47 PM
Anonymous said...: What the hell does "reverse-trolling" mean, anyway? Because I think he's jumped the shark and/or think he's 25% as articulate as he thinks he is it means I'm secretly on his side? What a shit argument, even from you.; May 28, 2011 at 10:51 PM
Anonymous said...: He was. Then he changed to Binplay and went 'mainstream'. Classic bait-and-switch.

Nuh uh! You fell for it. Classic reverse-reverse-reverse-trolling. Can't believe you're this dumb. Don't you see the reverse-reverse-reverse-landmine he's setting up? Wake up man. We need to go derper.; May 28, 2011 at 10:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Where have the "Jerkface is just setting up a trap" true believers gone? They were quite prevalent a few months ago. I guess they've degenerated into staight up ass kissers like BM.; May 28, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Piracy and freetards go hand in hand in most cases.

And.. what is your point?; May 28, 2011 at 10:58 PM
TM Repository said...: Hey look it's BM Suppository, #1 Jerkface asskisser. You'd agree with him if he said the sky was green.

Nah, I'm just not reverse trolling him by claiming he sold out.; May 28, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Game piracy, macs and the most boring sport ever: baseball....

I'd sooner go read a blog about wet noodles or some random 12yo's facebook page.

He really has nothing worthwhile to say about anything.; May 28, 2011 at 11:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Piracy and freetards go hand in hand in most cases.

And.. what is your point?

Whatever his point, I doubt you will find Jerkface making that connection, in case he is no longer mainstream.; May 28, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Nah, I'm just not reverse trolling him by claiming he sold out.

Except he clearly has.

But for some reason you keep on defending him, even claiming that he wasn't anti-Linux to begin with.; May 28, 2011 at 11:07 PM
TM Repository said...: And.. what is your point?

That he's still on topic with his posts. I thought I made that pretty clear but I guess ambiguity runs deep.

I like the assumption that Jerkface is expected to "stay on topic" or "consider his audience" like he's doing it all for his "fans" or something. I especially like the notion that he's sold out and trying to make money off his blog. I'd be interested in knowing how that's possible with only a handful of visits a day.

By all means, try to reverse troll me and claim I'm an ass kisser. But I'm just speaking realistically about his situation while everyone else whines about his content.; May 28, 2011 at 11:08 PM
TM Repository said...: But for some reason you keep on defending him, even claiming that he wasn't anti-Linux to begin with.

Right, selling out for those lucrative AdWords dollars, right? He's a niche blog in a niche section of a niche market. He's not running any ads so how even if his audience were big enough, how would he make any money?

And the anti-Linux stuff from early on was just low hanging fruit, but not the only thing he ever wrote about. That's been drying up recently though, for reasons I've already explained (generational shift, Google not being so FOSS friendly after all, etc.); May 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Anonymous said...: while everyone else whines about his content

binplay doesn't have content. That's the problem. Unless you're into baseball and "hurr durr game piracy bad!"

It's complete shit, through and through; May 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Anonymous said...: was just low hanging fruit

Revisionist history much? Or was it a bait-n-switch?

He did a couple just barely ok Linux hating things back then, but since then it's been like a stream of diarrhea; May 28, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Good god, you're a bigger groupie than I thought. WTF is the point of a blog if you're not going to consider the audience? Might as well piss in the wind.

And you completely miss the idea of "sold out". The guy obviously has an ego and wants to parlay one audience (Linux haters) into a more "lucrative" one (ex-pat Mac using hipsters). Whether he makes money off it or not is immaterial. He wants to be the counter-culture SJVN. He's even admitted that the site's name change was to appeal to a new audience! How is that not "selling out"?

Oh, and if you want to be viewed as less of an ass-kisser, lay off the LEAVE JERKFACE ALONE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S BEEN THROUGH style of posts. I have no idea what your investment is beyond that you agree with some of his ideas. The lengths you go to defend the guy is baffling.; May 28, 2011 at 11:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Right, selling out for those lucrative AdWords dollars, right?

He's been trying to go more mainstream. I assume to get more visits. Why else?

He's a niche blog in a niche section of a niche market.

What niche exactly? His topics are all over the place.

(generational shift, Google not being so FOSS friendly after all, etc.)

Linux hate is drying up? Really?; May 28, 2011 at 11:16 PM
TM Repository said...: Game piracy, macs and the most boring sport ever: baseball....

...

He really has nothing worthwhile to say about anything.

Sounds like he's lost a fan. I guess you'll find other tech blogs to read. Oh wait, you'll keep reading his anyways. The loudest protesters always do.; May 28, 2011 at 11:16 PM
Anonymous said...: What the hell? You really are the "leave jerkface alone" guy. I thought it was a joke but you're actually serious.; May 28, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Anonymous said...: BM is PMing Jerkface right now alerting him to the recent LHB activity. Even though Jerkface has said two dozen times he doesn't give two shits about what's said here, Suppository keeps on alerting him, hoping that he wins the bid for best asskisser, hopefully winning over JoeMonaco and Dr Boozer.; May 28, 2011 at 11:22 PM
Anonymous said...: I thought it was a joke but you're actually serious.

Seems like that.

Only a matter of time before Dr Loser and JoeMonoco join in defending him too.

I'm guessing it's their 'reputation' in the eyes of other bloggers they're defending.; May 28, 2011 at 11:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Sounds like he's lost a fan. I guess you'll find other tech blogs to read. Oh wait, you'll keep reading his anyways. The loudest protesters always do.

Well I'm sure someone will remember this reply for when you criticize Pogson or Noyes.; May 28, 2011 at 11:23 PM
Anonymous said...: It's funny to see him defend his shitty site so much, doubly so when TMR has far better content in the first place; May 28, 2011 at 11:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Sounds like he's lost a fan. I guess you'll find other tech blogs to read. Oh wait, you'll keep reading his anyways. The loudest protesters always do.

Yeah, not surprised you don't get it, having already downplayed audience engagement and all. Here's a hint, only assburgers like yourself who work at 3:00 AM so that you don't need to interact with other humans make sudden, black and white decisions about things. The rest of us gradually lose interest. We like it at first, then less so, then question why it's not the same, then gradually wander away. We might keep tabs on old hobbies solely due to prior investment. But it's not much of a continuing investment, certainly not to the extent where we're willing to be full time unpaid night shift PR for a blogging nobody.; May 28, 2011 at 11:28 PM
TM Repository said...: He's been trying to go more mainstream. I assume to get more visits. Why else?

To stroke his ego? Again, where's the money with which to sell out? He's got no ads or sponsors. And the number of visits would still be too low to actually make him anything worthwhile.

What niche exactly? His topics are all over the place.

He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

Not to get too pedantic but the baseball post drew a lot of parallels between the fickle nature of fandom in sports and tech.

Linux hate is drying up? Really?

No, Linux evangelism is at an all time low. Sure, it still exists, but like I said before, it's a rash now, compared to the full blown forum infection it was a few years ago.; May 28, 2011 at 11:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Linux hate is drying up? Really?

Nah, there are still enough ungrateful bastards that can't be happy taking the licensing requirements of the free software I make.; May 28, 2011 at 11:29 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm guessing it's their 'reputation' in the eyes of other bloggers they're defending.

What's the point? So time consuming, and it's not like the creds you build can be used to run for county freeholder. Jerkface in particular has said numerous times that he doesn't actually care about his commenters. Seems like a pointless and unrewarding endeavor sucking up to him.; May 28, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Well it looks like the troll is back.

Yeah, sorry, I was busy raping your mother.; May 28, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Anonymous said...: He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

LOLOLOL tech journalism critic???

I see xbox360 forever, mac v pc part 25, baseball stuff, etc etc..

Point me, please, to this critic that you read?

I mean, are we even talking about the same jerkface blog? The Binplay I see is just a buch of random opinions.

'tech journalism critic' indeed.; May 28, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Anonymous said...: He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower.

LOL. You REALLY think highly of him. I've seen better rants by drunks in bars at 3am. He's no Julian Assange, hero or savior, sorry. It takes more than a shitty blog with no content to deserve that kind of title.

In fact, you're so protective of him that I'm starting to believe both you and him might be the same person (using 2 accounts/sites); May 28, 2011 at 11:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Seems like a pointless and unrewarding endeavor sucking up to him.

Nametards on this blog know all about pointless and unrewarding endeavors.; May 28, 2011 at 11:36 PM
Anonymous said...: It's funny to see him defend his shitty site so much, doubly so when TMR has far better content in the first place

+5 Insightful; May 28, 2011 at 11:37 PM
TM Repository said...: Yeah, not surprised you don't get it, having already downplayed audience engagement and all. Here's a hint, only assburgers like yourself who work at 3:00 AM so that you don't need to interact with other humans make sudden, black and white decisions about things. The rest of us gradually lose interest.

Yeah, night owl = Asperger syndrome. Thanks doc.

I haven't drawn any black and white conclusions, I'm just saying Jerkface hasn't wandered as far off the path as you claim he has. There's still relevant, but if you're looking for an anti-Linux cheerleader, the guy was never much of one to begin with.

He's pointed out issues with Windows and OSX many times earlier and even recommended certain distros like Mint. Your revisionist history has him pegged as the next Linux Hater though.; May 28, 2011 at 11:37 PM
Anonymous said...: The Binplay I see is just a buch of random opinions.

Indeed. It double-jumped the shark with his MISSION ACCOMPLISHED post, which, in characteristic style, he didn't followup on. How's that characteristic? Read his first fucking post. Blogger was supposed to be temporary and he's said more than once he's going to move. More crypto "coming soon" gimmicks that he pretends he never said.; May 28, 2011 at 11:39 PM
TM Repository said...: It's funny to see him defend his shitty site so much, doubly so when TMR has far better content in the first place

A large portion of my content is member-driven. TM Repository is a barometer of the FOSS community, not my own opinions and rants in most cases.

Besides, it's obvious I'm the silent partner, raking in those AdSense dollaz! In just 15 more months Jerkface and I will be able to afford a cigar to celebrate!; May 28, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Anonymous said...: The knife the FOSStards willfully let Google put in their backs is now being twisted just a bit too much for them to apologize for.

Tell that to Robert Pogson who's savior is ARM running Android. He's still defending Google 'til the bitter end.; May 28, 2011 at 11:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, night owl = Asperger syndrome. Thanks doc.

Nice try but you said yourself the real reason for working late is to avoid interacting with other people. No doctorate required, just memory.; May 28, 2011 at 11:42 PM
TM Repository said...: LOL. You REALLY think highly of him. I've seen better rants by drunks in bars at 3am. He's no Julian Assange, hero or savior, sorry. It takes more than a shitty blog with no content to deserve that kind of title.

You're reading way too deep into my explanation. I was explaining where he stood in a niche market, not giving him a title.

He's something interesting to read that hasn't shut down or devolved into "piss in my butt" spam-fests in the comments. I haven't exalted the guy, I just don't care as much about the faults you find with him.

This is like the people who claim Angry Video Game Nerd sold out when he started reviewing other consoles. Who cares, it's still entertaining enough.; May 28, 2011 at 11:45 PM
TM Repository said...: Nice try but you said yourself the real reason for working late is to avoid interacting with other people. No doctorate required, just memory.

Just like the jerkface revisionist history, you're being selective with your memory here too.

I said I'm more productive working in the evenings because fewer people are awake. I get fewer emails at 3AM, fewer IMs, nothing good is on TV, etc. It force me to focus which is important when you're self-employed and working in a house full of distractions.

Besides, how does waking up at noon affect my social life exactly? Is 9AM-12PM when all the important social gathering happens?; May 28, 2011 at 11:50 PM
TM Repository said...: Tell that to Robert Pogson who's savior is ARM running Android. He's still defending Google 'til the bitter end.

That's my point, Pogson is one of the few stranglers; probably because he's too old to be a college kid. The rest all graduated and the real world hit them. Suddenly that job becomes so demanding you can't find the time to rant about how Microsoft is robbing you of your freedoms.

Like I said, expect to see this surge again in 3 or so years as the next batch of wide-eyed Linux youth start churning through the system.; May 28, 2011 at 11:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Like I said, expect to see this surge again in 3 or so years as the next batch of wide-eyed Linux youth start churning through the system.

That doesn't make any sense. Each year college and university students graduate. What's your logic in justifying it's 3 years?; May 28, 2011 at 11:56 PM
Anonymous said...: expect to see this surge again in 3 or so years as the next batch of wide-eyed Linux youth start churning through the system.

You keep saying this, and it is very bizarre.

You do realize that children aren't hatched every 3 years?; May 28, 2011 at 11:57 PM
Anonymous said...: LOL weird.

Two different posts saying exactly the same thing at the same time..; May 28, 2011 at 11:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Just like the jerkface revisionist history

Drop the "revisionist" crap talking like some 60s radical.

Jerface started from this blog, as an offshoot, anti-Linux (more anti-GPL IIRC). Look at the early posts.

Over time he's turned 'mainstream'. Now he stands for nothing.

Your 'tech journalism critic' claim is pulled from your ass. Look at the blog. Where is the ech journalism critic you speak of? Does he ever even make that claim?; May 29, 2011 at 12:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Over time he's turned 'mainstream'. Now he stands for nothing.

Even doing this officially by changing the blog name and announcing the new mainstream etc, and the "parody" site, and the partners etc.; May 29, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Anonymous said...: I was wondering about that too. There's a constant, steady stream of kids going through school. Why would it have stopped all of a sudden (not that it has) and start again in 3 years? It makes no sense.; May 29, 2011 at 12:03 AM
TM Repository said...: That doesn't make any sense. Each year college and university students graduate. What's your logic in justifying it's 3 years?

Its a general observation of trends, not a hard fact. I'm using the college example because it tends to be where it begins and ends.

Put it this way, the eldest sibling goes to college, jumps on the bandwagon and slowly builds up from ubuntu forum lurker to full blown zealot. After he graduates, his brother, 3 or 4 years younger, does the same thing. Waves happen as interest grows.

Feel free to punch holes in this theory all you want, but pro-Linux FUD is at an all time low due to lack of interest. It's fairly safe to say that if FOSS remains, you'll see it periodically surge as new people join the "cause".; May 29, 2011 at 12:04 AM
Anonymous said...: "2014 is the year of the Lintards"

-TMR; May 29, 2011 at 12:05 AM
TM Repository said...: Look at the blog. Where is the ech journalism critic you speak of? Does he ever even make that claim?

The second paragraph is a quote from development blog. He uses his post to refute the claim. He's doing what he's always done, take articles that irked him and called bullshit.; May 29, 2011 at 12:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey BM, I'll refute jerkface's points. The "XBox 360 Foreva" post is monumentally stupid, and here's why: if Company X doesn't release a new system, Company Y will. Like everything else, gaming consoles are an arms race. While the lifecycles have grown longer, that doesn't mean competitive pressure has disappeared.

People will buy the new system because they implicitly realize that the OEM has already done the work securing titles for the new system. They know the graphics will be better along with the overall experience. They know that the new system has a lot more headroom for growth compared to the aging, tapped-out system it's replacing.

What's especially stupid is this has happened before. TurboGraphX and Genesis came out in 1987 and 1988, respectively. Nintendo's initial reaction was to do basically nothing, even though they knew deep down they should have gone with the more expensive Motorola 68000 rather than settle on the knockoff 8-bit 6502 for the NES. They already had a lock on the market so why bother with a new system. Only after 2+ years of erosion (at least in the Japan market) did Nintendo finally get off its ass and release a 16-bit system, albeit significantly underpowered and quite late in the era. 32-bit systems would start to be available a mere 2 years after the SNES' introduction in the U.S. Nintendo realized this and attempted to do damage control with the SNES CD, which, ironically, caused even more damage by spawning the PlayStation. Then they went into pseudo-panic mode and cut deals with Phillips, Rare, and SGI leading to a ~10 year lull.

While Nintendo remains a strong company, they lost quite a bit of ground since the 8-bit era and some would say that their dominance in portables is what bailed them out during the 32/64 bit era (circa 1994-2006), along with cultural xenophobia when it comes to embracing foreign products (XBox). Nintendo had a hit with the Wii but if it weren't for the Game Boy line they could have ended up like Sega.

But, no, everything will always be like it is now. Nothing will ever change.; May 29, 2011 at 12:07 AM
Anonymous said...: "2014 is the year of the Lintards"

-TMR

Yeah, that's about it. I see an opinion, nothing more. TMR has been hanging out with Pogson too long.; May 29, 2011 at 12:08 AM
TM Repository said...: "2014 is the year of the Lintards"
-TMR

Heh. More or less. I'm not a freetard so my prediction may actually turn out to be correct.; May 29, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Anonymous said...: The second paragraph is a quote from development blog.

OMG he's a "tech journalism critic" because in one of his posts he quotes a Slashdot story?

Face it TM Repo. You pulled that tech journalism critic crap out of your ass now you're trying to justify it.; May 29, 2011 at 12:11 AM
Anonymous said...: This is like the people who claim Angry Video Game Nerd sold out when he started reviewing other consoles

Again, you're wrong. The main complaint is that he tried to parlay his video game audience into viewing his amateur student-grade horror film schlock, which is analogous to Jerkface trying to pass coffee shop rants and baseball attendance onto Linux haters. He was also over-promotional when he migrated from his own Cinemassacre to GameTrailers.; May 29, 2011 at 12:11 AM
TM Repository said...: Hey BM, I'll refute jerkface's points. The "XBox 360 Foreva" post is monumentally stupid, and here's why: if Company X doesn't release a new system, Company Y will. Like everything else, gaming consoles are an arms race. While the lifecycles have grown longer, that doesn't mean competitive pressure has disappeared.

So why not post this on his blog then? You make a lot of good points.

Nobody ever said Jerkface was the guy with all the answers. He's giving his opinion on a blog.; May 29, 2011 at 12:12 AM
Anonymous said...: I said I'm more productive working in the evenings because fewer people are awake. I get fewer emails at 3AM, fewer IMs, nothing good is on TV, etc. It force me to focus which is important when you're self-employed and working in a house full of distractions.

Translation: I don't want to interact with other humans.; May 29, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey BM, I'll refute jerkface's points.

It was a stupid argument to begin with, basically boiling down to 'XBox and PS3 are good enough.'; May 29, 2011 at 12:13 AM
TM Repository said...: Again, you're wrong. The main complaint is that he tried to parlay his video game audience into viewing his amateur student-grade horror film schlock

Considering the Cinemassacre stuff existed before AVGN did, that's a bit backwards. Most people whined that he wasn't posting enough AVGN, that he wasn't angry enough anymore, or that his production values got too high when he started doing story arcs in his reviews. Hell, most people still don't know the rest of Cinemassacre even exists.

which is analogous to Jerkface trying to pass coffee shop rants and baseball attendance onto Linux haters. He was also over-promotional when he migrated from his own Cinemassacre to GameTrailers.

So if Gizmodo posts a software review or an article about a high performance car they've suddenly sold out? I agree, Jerkface doesn't have the laser-beam focus on Linux hate like you wish he did, my point is he never really had it to begin with. It just so happens most of the juicier commentary was coming from the FOSS world back in 2008-2009.; May 29, 2011 at 12:19 AM
Anonymous said...: So basically Jerkface is a Gen X coffee house dick? meh, been done a million times.; May 29, 2011 at 12:21 AM
TM Repository said...: It was a stupid argument to begin with, basically boiling down to 'XBox and PS3 are good enough.'

Right. Observations and opinions about tech; Remarking about industry sentiment and refuting it. That's what he's always been commenting about.; May 29, 2011 at 12:23 AM
TM Repository said...: So basically Jerkface is a Gen X coffee house dick? meh, been done a million times.

You act like he cheated you by "tricking" you into reading his blog or something. The nostalgia seems to have made you extra bitter as well.; May 29, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Anonymous said...: I think that 3 year thing is pure hogwash. There's still plenty of freetards around.

The only things I've seen really make a difference is when something new comes out.

Either a new desktop environment (I can remember the people talking about GNOME back then) or this "cool new distro" named Ubuntu, which everybody now knows is a complete turd (Gentoo also made some noise a while ago, and more recently Arch and a couple others). Compiz also had people talking, until they realized spinning their cubes and wobbling their windows didn't make the OS useful.; May 29, 2011 at 12:24 AM
TM Repository said...: Translation: I don't want to interact with other humans.

You got me. Because all anybody does at their 9-5 job is party in their cubes is socialize. Nobody actually tries to get any work done.; May 29, 2011 at 12:28 AM
Anonymous said...: I'd say if Gizmodo starts posting car reviews then, yes, they've sold out. It's the same bait 'n switch crap everybody's been trying to explain to you. They're trying to turn a gadget audience into a higher end car buying one. I guess you think TechTV -- ahem G4 -- is really still for nerds. That they've gone from fat nerds building custom PCs to large tittied chicks playing Street Fighter 4 really, really badly is totally immaterial.; May 29, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Right. Observations and opinions about tech; Remarking about industry sentiment and refuting it. That's what he's always been commenting about.

Having opinions on tech? What an original concept!

You defend him as a "tech journalism critic" so where's the links to his posts claiming to be this, or articles critiquing tech journalism?

Face it, it's just some guy and his poorly written opinions.; May 29, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Anonymous said...: So basically Jerkface is a Gen X coffee house dick?

Basically. The clincher of the Gen X part is that he's using Blogger rather than Facebook to get his word out.; May 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Remarking about industry sentiment and refuting it

He "refutes industry sentiment"??

Do you even read your own posts before clicking publish?; May 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM
Anonymous said...: all anybody does at their 9-5 job is party in their cubes is socialize. Nobody actually tries to get any work done.

Spoken like a true elitist nerd assburger. Let me guess, your boss has pointy hair and "just doesn't understand you".; May 29, 2011 at 12:32 AM
Anonymous said...: You act like he cheated you by "tricking" you into reading his blog or something. The nostalgia seems to have made you extra bitter as well.

Do you really think I give two shits about one blogger's shtick that has been done to death a million times over?

captcha: sheen - the conversation here is winning, sheen style.; May 29, 2011 at 12:32 AM
TM Repository said...: I think that 3 year thing is pure hogwash. There's still plenty of freetards around.

I didn't say their numbers decreased, I literally said they'd "crawled back in their holes". They've receded, not disappeared. They just don't troll/spam the forums like they used to. Even Slashdot comments have been heavily balanced out.

Hell, read the comments here calling the author out for FUDing and doing no research. The cheer squads have all but evaporated, they only exist with any strength in the back channels these days.; May 29, 2011 at 12:33 AM
TM Repository said...: Do you really think I give two shits about one blogger's shtick that has been done to death a million times over?

If you really didn't give a shit, you probably wouldn't have spent so much time trying to convince me otherwise.; May 29, 2011 at 12:35 AM
Anonymous said...: You act like he cheated you by "tricking" you into reading his blog or something.

Why shouldn't he be called out on his shit?

What makes him so special that he's immune?; May 29, 2011 at 12:35 AM
Anonymous said...: People ask why bother coming to LHB and I say it's because there's no status quo when it comes to tech opinions. On Jerkface and even Piestar there seemed to be invisible pressure to agree with the webmaster. All along I think everyone knew LHB comments were abandonware so a different culture formed. Whether it's Jerkface, Pogson, or SJVN, everybody fucking agrees with everything the topic creator says.; May 29, 2011 at 12:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Why shouldn't he be called out on his shit?

LEAVE JERKFACE ALONE

What makes him so special that he's immune?

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S BEEN THROUGH; May 29, 2011 at 12:38 AM
Anonymous said...: If you really didn't give a shit, you probably wouldn't have spent so much time trying to convince me otherwise.

Hey dumbfuck, 2 posts (now 3) is not much effort.; May 29, 2011 at 12:41 AM
Anonymous said...: All along I think everyone knew LHB comments were abandonware so a different culture formed.

Yup, that's the reason I still hang around.

Even when Linux Hater was posting, there was plenty of dissent.; May 29, 2011 at 12:41 AM
TM Repository said...: Spoken like a true elitist nerd assburger. Let me guess, your boss has pointy hair and "just doesn't understand you".

...I am my boss. What part of "self-employed and working from home in a house full of distractions" do you not get?

People don't go to work to be social, they go there to work and get paid. Sure, some level of social interaction goes on, but people need to get their work done or risk termination. In my case, if my work doesn't get done, I don't eat. So I minimize the distractions when I need to be productive.

Again, I'm up at noon so I don't see how my social life is affected by the schedule.; May 29, 2011 at 12:42 AM
Anonymous said...: LEAVE JERKFACE ALONE

Neat summary of TMR's argument.

He's a tech journalism critic, you know!; May 29, 2011 at 12:42 AM
Anonymous said...: So why not post this on his blog then? You make a lot of good points.

Why bother? I'll just be deluged by groupies saying that I have no right to disagree with Jerkface and that if I don't subscribe to 100% of his opinions 100% of the time then I can just leave. Besides, there's already a comment there that basically says the same thing but with less words and, surprise surprise, it was ignored.; May 29, 2011 at 12:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey dumbfuck, 2 posts (now 3) is not much effort.

But all anonymous posters are the same person, right?

Why aren't there any anon defending jerface and his awesome blog?; May 29, 2011 at 12:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Anon is Jerkface; May 29, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Anonymous said...: I'll just be deluged by groupies

Or just have your comment deleted.

Wouldn't want to get off-topic?; May 29, 2011 at 12:46 AM
TM Repository said...: Why shouldn't he be called out on his shit?

Call him out all you want. I'm just not as jaded as you are, so I disagreed with you. You took it as me siding with him or defending him. Rather, I just don't consider the faults as fatal as you do.

What makes him so special that he's immune?

He's not. His quality varies and not all topics are interesting. I just consider him still readable, and his commenters a lot more engaged than LHB is. This, in spite of the fact that he's not championing the anti-Linux movement like you'd hoped he would.; May 29, 2011 at 12:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Anon is Jerkface

So jerface is hating on jerkface.. on Linux hater's blog?

We're through the looking glass now, people!; May 29, 2011 at 12:47 AM
TM Repository said...: Why bother? I'll just be deluged by groupies saying that I have no right to disagree with Jerkface and that if I don't subscribe to 100% of his opinions 100% of the time then I can just leave.

How convenient.; May 29, 2011 at 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...: his commenters a lot more engaged than LHB is

WTF does this mean? Of the ~10 people that post there like 3 seem to be not from LHB. And even those make periodic appearances like that kurosdr guy.; May 29, 2011 at 12:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Why aren't there any anon defending jerface and his awesome blog?

Because its not an awesome blog nor is it really worth discussing.

TM is clearly just arguing for the sake of arguing. He'd have to have assburgers to put this much effort into defending someone he's never met.; May 29, 2011 at 12:50 AM
Anonymous said...: You took it as me siding with him or defending him.

So you're not defending him?!

Then just what the hell do you think you're doing?

Just like the jerkface revisionist history, you're being selective with your memory here too.

Fighting "jerkface revionism" like some high-school stalinist?; May 29, 2011 at 12:51 AM
Anonymous said...: How convenient.

If you really want my comment there that bad, post it yourself. I hereby Creative Commons GPL/BSD/MIT that throwaway comment. Have a field day.; May 29, 2011 at 12:51 AM
TM Repository said...: Neat summary of TMR's argument.

He's a tech journalism critic, you know!

As opposed to what? What was he before exactly? The anti-Stallman? The Ubuntu slayer? What? Please explain exactly what you're pining for.; May 29, 2011 at 12:52 AM
Anonymous said...: How convenient.

What is your point?; May 29, 2011 at 12:53 AM
Anonymous said...: He'd have to have assburgers to put this much effort into defending someone he's never met.

No, he just likes to "get work done". He thinks there's nothing strange at all for a boss to avoid all contact with employees. That way he can show leadership, which never requires socializing.; May 29, 2011 at 12:54 AM
TM Repository said...: If you really want my comment there that bad, post it yourself. I hereby Creative Commons GPL/BSD/MIT that throwaway comment. Have a field day.

I get it. All talk, no walk. Why do something when you could whine about it instead. Reverse trolling 101.

Call him out if you're dissatisfied with the direction he's going. Do you somehow think that by whining about him on another blog he probably isn't reading will make him reconsider? But again, reverse trolling 101, you don't actually want him to reconsider, you just want to whine.; May 29, 2011 at 12:57 AM
TM Repository said...: No, he just likes to "get work done". He thinks there's nothing strange at all for a boss to avoid all contact with employees. That way he can show leadership, which never requires socializing.

Being self-employed, my own boss and the only employee in my company sure makes it difficult to avoid myself.

You're having a tough time figuring out this whole contracting gig, aren't you?; May 29, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Please explain exactly what you're pining for.

Why do you keep defending him from critics here?

He started as a LHB spinoff, went "mainstream," now he sucks.

But when someone says that, you rebut with "he never about Linux hate" and "he's a tech journalism critic" and a bunch of crap that's plainly wrong.

Look at the early posts, he did Linux hate that was OK, then changed his name to get popular and now is just another lame ass blog.

The criticism of jerkface here his spot on. You fanboi devotion to a blogger that gets 2-3 uniques per day is just sad.; May 29, 2011 at 12:59 AM
Anonymous said...: I get it. All talk, no walk. Why do something when you could whine about it instead. Reverse trolling 101.

Now it's back to accusing anon of 'reverse-trolling'? Yeesh.

Why should he post to a lame-ass blog and give it traffic and content if he doesn't want to?

WTF are you shilling of jerkface anyways?; May 29, 2011 at 1:01 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL, BM's getting desperate. Now we have to prove we're "real men" by daring to post on Jerkface's blog comments.; May 29, 2011 at 1:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Being self-employed, my own boss and the only employee in my company sure makes it difficult to avoid myself.

Uh. You're the one talking about minimizing interaction with people who didn't want to get work done. What did you do, wander in to some random office? Was being charged with vagrancy what put that that "printer driver" anti-socialism streak into you?; May 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Now we have to prove we're "real men" by daring to post on Jerkface's blog comments.

I'd like to know the real reason TM is shilling so hard.

BTW I LOL'd when Jerkface has 8 comments and this flamewar along has over 100.; May 29, 2011 at 1:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Don't know if he's really antisocial or not but when it comes to fellow nametards TM is a pack animal. He always rises to the defense of Dr Loser and JoeMonco, even when doing so is obtuse and awkward.; May 29, 2011 at 1:06 AM
Anonymous said...: So why not post this on his blog then? You make a lot of good points.

Because more people will read it here than on Jerkface's blog.; May 29, 2011 at 1:06 AM
TM Repository said...: Why do you keep defending him from critics here?

I'm not defending him, I'm just trying to get an answer out of you that isn't nostalgia-driven heresy.

You say he's become unfocused, I'm simply claiming he's never had much focus to begin with. He just dropped enough articles about what you wanted that you got off on it and were happy.

Now he's done the unthinkable and upset a fan. One vocal enough to call him out...on a different blog, of course.; May 29, 2011 at 1:07 AM
Anonymous said...: He always rises to the defense of Dr Loser and JoeMonco, even when doing so is obtuse and awkward.

But according to TM Repo, he's not defending Jerkface, it's just that he's not 'jaded' enough to criticize him.

Or something..; May 29, 2011 at 1:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Now we have to prove we're "real men" by daring to post on Jerkface's blog comments.

I'd like to know the real reason TM is shilling so hard.

Seriously. Any doubt is removed by him actively goading this audience into posting on his blog. Why does he give two shits? And he obviously does otherwise he wouldn't be repeatedly taunting us to "fight Jerkface on his own turf". I don't give two shits about the guy. I like talking here and agree with what everyone but TM has to say about the current subject.; May 29, 2011 at 1:10 AM
TM Repository said...: I'd like to know the real reason TM is shilling so hard.

It's a solid debate. The bitter fan versus the indifferent reader.

I know it may seem like I'm mounting some sort of a defense, but I couldn't care less about what Jerkface posts. Whether I find anything he writes entertaining is beside the point. What I'm interested in is why you're so vocal about it.

Jerkface posts about baseball and suddenly you're the most butthurt person on the internet?; May 29, 2011 at 1:11 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm not defending him, I'm just trying to get an answer out of you that isn't nostalgia-driven heresy.

So you say that's it's not that he's become lame, it's that he's always been lame.

Gotcha.; May 29, 2011 at 1:12 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL, indifferent reader. This argument would have been over hours ago without your insistence. You need to buy a dictionary. define: word isn't doing the job for you.; May 29, 2011 at 1:13 AM
TM Repository said...: Seriously. Any doubt is removed by him actively goading this audience into posting on his blog. Why does he give two shits?

Because I'm making mad AdSense cash each time you visit Jerkface's new and improved blog. The silent partner is silent no more. I've been advising him to talk about baseball; that'll really bring in the traffic. So will posting about PS3 market longevity. Truly, this selling out will net us millions.; May 29, 2011 at 1:13 AM
Anonymous said...: fight Jerkface on his own turf

Where he can delete your comments if he disagrees with you.

What a plan!; May 29, 2011 at 1:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Because I'm making mad AdSense cash each time you visit Jerkface's new and improved blog. The silent partner is silent no more. I've been advising him to talk about baseball; that'll really bring in the traffic. So will posting about PS3 market longevity. Truly, this selling out will net us millions.

How convenient.; May 29, 2011 at 1:15 AM
TM Repository said...: LOL, indifferent reader. This argument would have been over hours ago without your insistence. You need to buy a dictionary. define: word isn't doing the job for you.

I'm indifferent about Jerkface's comments. Not having a comment war with a troll; LHB has always been about feeding them.

Jerkface posts about PS3, cool, whatever, he makes a good point here and there. Baseball? Sure, attendance is down, reminds me of fans in tech circles. etc. I don't read it to fuel my Linux rage quota.; May 29, 2011 at 1:16 AM
Anonymous said...: I know it may seem like I'm mounting some sort of a defense, but I couldn't care less about what Jerkface posts.

Translation: I've painted myself into a corner with stupid defences and now wish to claim I never defending him at all.; May 29, 2011 at 1:17 AM
Anonymous said...: So now TM Repo has gone from:

He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

To:

Jerkface posts about PS3, cool, whatever,; May 29, 2011 at 1:18 AM
TM Repository said...: Where he can delete your comments if he disagrees with you.

What a plan!

Which I'm sure he's done to your comments many times. Pure speculation and assumption which conveniently absolves you of actually having to post your argument.

I've disagreed with many of his posts and he's never deleted any refuting I've done. Then again, I'm the silent partner, shilling for AdSense cash.; May 29, 2011 at 1:19 AM
Anonymous said...: You say we're "bitter fans". I say it seems like 3 times a week you or someone says something like "Hey go to Jerkface and read it's real good". I never heard of the guy outside of these kinds of comments and don't get the connection but apparently he used to post here. Okay, I just read a few old articles because of this argument and kinda get it but I've been saying for weeks shut the fuck up about this guy Jerkface. I'm not a bitter fan. I don't know who he is and don't care. Stop fucking promoting him like you're his fucking agent.; May 29, 2011 at 1:20 AM
TM Repository said...: To:

Jerkface posts about PS3, cool, whatever,

PS3 isn't tech? Him refuting community expectations for a new console isn't being critical?

Did you get this pissed when he started talking about Flash? Oh man, what a hot button topic, he's obviously just trying to ride the Steve Jobs wave and drive lucrative traffic to his blog.; May 29, 2011 at 1:21 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm indifferent about Jerkface's comments. Not having a comment war with a troll; LHB has always been about feeding them.

Oh, okay. Carry on. Just wanted to make sure you weren't moving the goalposts and that this wasn't about SOMEBODY IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET.; May 29, 2011 at 1:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Which I'm sure he's done to your comments many times. Pure speculation and assumption which conveniently absolves you of actually having to post your argument.

If I'm going to argue with someone, it will be in a neutral environment. Yeesh.

Besides, if jerkface wants to know LHB commenters opinion, he know where to find it.; May 29, 2011 at 1:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Besides, if jerkface wants to know LHB commenters opinion, he know where to find it.

He says he doesn't care what we think. Yet BM thinks we should let him know anyway, just like he incessantly PMs Jerkface with full quotes of the conversation, even though he's said to fucking knock it off already.; May 29, 2011 at 1:24 AM
Anonymous said...: PS3 isn't tech?

You missed the point.; May 29, 2011 at 1:24 AM
TM Repository said...: You say we're "bitter fans". I say it seems like 3 times a week you or someone says something like "Hey go to Jerkface and read it's real good".

Right. Can you show me some posts like this. If it's 3 times a week they should be pretty common and easy to find.

If you're not a bitter fan, then you're just a troll. Right about now you should jump up and claim victory, chiding me for falling for your awesome troll bait.; May 29, 2011 at 1:25 AM
Anonymous said...: So now TM Repo has gone from:

He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

Jerkface is awesome! He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds! NO HOLDS BARRED!!

To:

Jerkface posts about PS3, cool, whatever,T

Jerkface? Meh.; May 29, 2011 at 1:27 AM
TM Repository said...: If I'm going to argue with someone, it will be in a neutral environment. Yeesh.

You weren't posting to argue, you were whining to nobody in particular. Post it to Jerkface and take your chances with his apparently itchy trigger finger.; May 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM
Anonymous said...: He says he doesn't care what we think

Exactly. So why bother posting over there.; May 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey guys, my name is BM Suppository. I'm totally indifferent. Even though I'll spend hours fervently defending some dude from another country I've never met with every disingenuous tactic in the book, I'll claim cool nerves like Commander Data while everyone else is frothing at the mouth. Oh and I am my own boss in a company of one and think I'm 1337.; May 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM
TM Repository said...: Jerkface is awesome! He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds! NO HOLDS BARRED!!

We ran out of zealots to fight. Rather than just leave, you hang around and try to start in-fighting. Reverse trolling 101. Genius.; May 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Post it to Jerkface and take your chances

Why? He already said he doesn't care what we think.; May 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM
Anonymous said...: I've disagreed with many of his posts

Link some.; May 29, 2011 at 1:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Rather than just leave, you hang around and try to start in-fighting. Reverse trolling 101. Genius.

LOL you are alone in defending Jerkface, and anon are the ones in-fighting?; May 29, 2011 at 1:32 AM
TM Repository said...: Hey guys, my name is BM Suppository. I'm totally indifferent. Even though I'll spend hours fervently defending some dude from another country I've never met with every disingenuous tactic in the book,

Like i said before, I'll argue with a troll. My indifference lies in what Jerkface posts since I consider it entertaining enough to continue reading it. If I didn't, I simply wouldn't read his blog anymore. One thing is certain, I wouldn't go whining about it in the LHB comments.; May 29, 2011 at 1:32 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL you are alone in defending Jerkface, and anon are the ones in-fighting?

I think he's referring to anonymous turning on him, as if he was unanimously revered prior.; May 29, 2011 at 1:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Jerkface is awesome! He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds! NO HOLDS BARRED!!

We ran out of zealots to fight. Rather than just leave, you hang around and try to start in-fighting. Reverse trolling 101. Genius.

You have gone from "Jerkface: awesome tech journalism critic" to "Jerkface: meh".

And your big come back is "We ran out of zealots to fight." Really?; May 29, 2011 at 1:34 AM
TM Repository said...: LOL you are alone in defending Jerkface, and anon are the ones in-fighting?

Nah, there's probably only one anon and the troll wanted to pick a fight so I took him up on it. The intent was clearly to stir up more "leave jerkface alone" comments; those never stop being funny.; May 29, 2011 at 1:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey guys, my name is BM Suppository. I'm totally indifferent. Even though I'll spend hours fervently defending some dude from another country I've never met with every disingenuous tactic in the book, I'll claim cool nerves like Commander Data while everyone else is frothing at the mouth. Oh and I am my own boss in a company of one and think I'm 1337.

Customer appreciation day is him jerkin' the gherkin to pictures of Rosie O'Donnel.; May 29, 2011 at 1:35 AM
Anonymous said...: If I didn't, I simply wouldn't read his blog anymore.

Well we don't.

We can still hate on jerkface for being a douche.; May 29, 2011 at 1:36 AM
Anonymous said...: An awful lot of work for one anon. You're being outposted by like 3-to-1. Not impossible but not very likely.; May 29, 2011 at 1:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Nah, there's probably only one anon and the troll wanted to pick a fight so I took him up on it.

So you admit you're only defending jerkface for the lulz? Admit it.; May 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Nah, there's probably only one anon and the troll wanted to pick a fight so I took him up on it.

Yeah, I count at least four.; May 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM
TM Repository said...: You have gone from "Jerkface: awesome tech journalism critic" to "Jerkface: meh".

Except I never said "Jerkface is awesome" in any way. You misinterpreted my synopsis as praise. He refutes a lot of tech journalism; he's always done that. Hence the "meh", because he never deviated much from his original formula.; May 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL you are alone in defending Jerkface

Until Dr Loser and JoeMonco turn up.; May 29, 2011 at 1:38 AM
Anonymous said...: So you admit you're only defending jerkface for the lulz? Admit it.

I guess he already did with his "feeding the trolls" comment. Too bad this has backfired by soiling his precious nametard reputation. Now we all know that TM is bullshitting about everything. Good show, though. Congrats on the victory.; May 29, 2011 at 1:39 AM
TM Repository said...: Yeah, I count at least four.

Not to be "show your faces" guy, but how is having blogger names any less anonymous? Sign up with a fake account, who cares. Will telling each-other apart suddenly destroy the integrity of your trolling?; May 29, 2011 at 1:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Except I never said "Jerkface is awesome" in any way.

FFS, TM Repo. You are saying this (which YOU wrote) is not advocacy of Jerkface:

He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.; May 29, 2011 at 1:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Not to be "show your faces" guy, but how is having blogger names any less anonymous?

How does posting as anonymous make our points less valid?

Hint: IT DOESN'T; May 29, 2011 at 1:42 AM
TM Repository said...: I guess he already did with his "feeding the trolls" comment. Too bad this has backfired by soiling his precious nametard reputation. Now we all know that TM is bullshitting about everything. Good show, though. Congrats on the victory.

Nope, feeding the trolls just means I'll occasionally bite if someone is obviously baiting. It doesn't mean I'll give a fake argument, no matter how much you'd like to imply that.

If you need a more concise summary than the one you've already stitched together, it'd be:

"Jerkface hasn't changed all that much, he's as meh as he always was".; May 29, 2011 at 1:43 AM
Anonymous said...: How does posting as anonymous make our points less valid?

When in doubt, attack the person, not the arguments.

A very freetard tactic.; May 29, 2011 at 1:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Not to be "show your faces" guy, but how is having blogger names any less anonymous? Sign up with a fake account, who cares. Will telling each-other apart suddenly destroy the integrity of your trolling?

As karkhyassbiterwhatever has already pointed out, it is far more fun as anonymous.

captcha: ratse - rat version of goatse; May 29, 2011 at 1:44 AM
Anonymous said...: "Jerkface hasn't changed all that much, he's as meh as he always was".

If that's your (new) opinion of JF, why are you defending him so hard?; May 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM
Anonymous said...: He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

Hello chaps, allow me to inform you of this new, dynamic, dare I say heroic personality. He's so counterculture and new wave that he even calls himself Jerkface. He's so anti-establishment that he goes full circle back to establishment but with a twist! You're reading about all the topics you care about: Linux, Macs, video games and BAM here comes baseball, out of left field. Get it?! Left field!

Anyway you GOTTA check him out. But beware, don't do so unless you're a real man. Don't let that scare you because I'm his publicist so I must be a real man. And we're talking so that makes you a real man, too. Be sure to post in his comments to pad his Alexa rating! We're counting on you, soldier!; May 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM
TM Repository said...: How does posting as anonymous make our points less valid?

It doesn't. That wasn't my point. I'm just curious why heavy commenters like to post anonymously when a name with a fake account is more or less the same amount of privacy without the "which anon are you" mystique.; May 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM
TM Repository said...: Hello chaps, allow me to inform you of this new, dynamic, dare I say heroic personality. He's so counterculture and new wave that he even calls himself Jerkface

Yeah, because refuting tech blog posts about PS3 longevity is so counter culture. Refuting anything makes him a total rebel.

I think you over-estimate what the term "devil's advocate" means. It's not, in fact, a dude with horns riding on a motorcycle made of fire and bones.; May 29, 2011 at 1:48 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm just curious why heavy commenters like to post anonymously when a name with a fake account is more or less the same amount of privacy without the "which anon are you" mystique.

I'm curious, why do you think it matters? Why do I, or anyone for that matter, have to create a name so you can tell how many people you are arguing with?; May 29, 2011 at 1:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Well, since you're Tom Cruise and not into this psychology stuff I guess you've missed the research that states the longer a person has a virtual account the more he protects it as if it's his real identity, which you've amply demonstrated with your whole "I am my own boss and work from home at 3:00 and don't like interacting with other people but still have a social life honest" shtick. Can't speak for everybody but I already know the outcome of having a named account in a forum where I don't really care to form a community bond. The odd man out here is you.; May 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm just curious why heavy commenters like to post anonymously

Because it's not one heavy commenter, but many regular commenters posting anonymously.; May 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM
TM Repository said...: I like how you've moved on to the final chapter of Reverse Trolling 101. Re-authoring my posts, summarizing them with your own slant. Anything to put words into my mouth.

Did I say something and then clarify it later? That clearly means I was backpedaling! Did I disagree with a point you made? Obviously it means you're in favour of whatever is being disagreed upon.

If all else fails, LAUNCH CHARACTER ATTACKS!; May 29, 2011 at 1:53 AM
Anonymous said...: I think you over-estimate what the term "devil's advocate" means. It's not, in fact BLAH BLAH

Yeesh TM Repo.

You wrote a bunch of hype defending Jerkface, and you think we disagree with you because you think we don't understand what a devil's advocate is?; May 29, 2011 at 1:54 AM
TM Repository said...: Because it's not one heavy commenter, but many regular commenters posting anonymously.

If only LHB had this kind of commenting on a regular basis. My only thought is that you post as multiple personalities and don't want anyone to know. Or, you're worried that someone might refute you later by looking up your statement in the history.; May 29, 2011 at 1:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Re-authoring my posts, summarizing them with your own slant. Anything to put words into my mouth.

LOL noone needs to put words in your mounth!

Did you, or did you not write this @May 28, 2011 11:29 PM:

He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

Not to get too pedantic but the baseball post drew a lot of parallels between the fickle nature of fandom in sports and tech.

It's a damn advertisment for the awesomeness of Jerkface!

Backtrack all you want, but this is not 4Chan. When posts are saves, they stick around to be quoted.; May 29, 2011 at 1:57 AM
TM Repository said...: You wrote a bunch of hype defending Jerkface, and you think we disagree with you because you think we don't understand what a devil's advocate is?

I wrote a bunch of "hype"? Exactly which words "hype" him or his blog? Was it my "meh" remarks? The ooze excitement.

I'm just calling you out for thinking that me breaking down what jerkface does, and always has done, as being some sort of praise or defense.; May 29, 2011 at 1:58 AM
Anonymous said...: My only thought is that you post as multiple personalities and don't want anyone to know.

Your totally convinced that it's just one guy for the past 6 hours?; May 29, 2011 at 1:59 AM
JoeMonco said...: We can still hate on jerkface for being a douche.

True. Every morning the first thing I do is to bellow the name "Jerkface" in sheer anger for deleting my comments, and I have been maintaining this habit for the last several months.

Sounds healthy, doesn't it?; May 29, 2011 at 1:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Was it my "meh" remarks? The ooze excitement.

No. Among others it's @May 28, 2011 11:29 PM:

He's a tech journalism critic. One part devil's advocate, one part whistle-blower. He calls bullshit on any tech articles he finds; Linux, Mac and even Windows.

Not to get too pedantic but the baseball post drew a lot of parallels between the fickle nature of fandom in sports and tech.

It's a damn advertisment for the awesomeness of Jerkface!

Backtrack all you want, but this is not 4Chan. When posts are saves, they stick around to be quoted.; May 29, 2011 at 2:00 AM
Anonymous said...: JoeMonco said...

And the nametards ride in to save TM Repo!; May 29, 2011 at 2:01 AM
TM Repository said...: It's a damn advertisment for the awesomeness of Jerkface!

You see what you want to see.

If i told you "hitler ran the nazi party in germany and it had many members". You'd claim I was advertising how awesome hitler was; clearly I'm explaining how popular he was, right? So I must be defending him, rather than simply explaining what he did.

Is anything I explained about jerkface not factually accurate? Does he not talk about tech? Does he not refute a lot of tech press? Is he not playing devil's advocate to the mac-loving crowd? is he not calling bullshit on HTML5 killing Flash?; May 29, 2011 at 2:02 AM
TM Repository said...: True. Every morning the first thing I do is to bellow the name "Jerkface" in sheer anger for deleting my comments, and I have been maintaining this habit for the last several months.

Sounds healthy, doesn't it?

High five Joe! Us "namers" have to stick together. When you're a celebrity and raking in those AdSense dollars you've gotta know who your friends are. Amiright?; May 29, 2011 at 2:04 AM
Anonymous said...: "hitler ran the nazi party in germany and it had many members"

No because that is a quantative statement.

Your jerkface rant was qualatative.; May 29, 2011 at 2:05 AM
TM Repository said...: No because that is a quantative statement.

Pedantic. By your criteria it would be considered praise and not just facts.

Your jerkface rant was qualatative.

Did I make any claim that these were good or bad qualities? To praise someone you typically try to present traits like that in a positive light.

Listing facts is NOT giving praise, no matter how hard you wish it.; May 29, 2011 at 2:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Face it, TM Repo, you just made an idiot of yourself. Play semantics all you want, it won't change what you wrote.; May 29, 2011 at 2:30 AM
Anonymous said...: When posts are saves, they stick around to be quoted.

Until some genius at google causes blogger to corrupt data which deletes posts and comments, causing a three day outage.

captcha: elaters - certainly not here.; May 29, 2011 at 2:33 AM
TM Repository said...: Face it, TM Repo, you just made an idiot of yourself. Play semantics all you want, it won't change what you wrote.

Death rattle. I remember Adam King used to pull this shit. One last character attack for good measure.

Too bad I never tried to change what I wrote. You're the one trying to insinuate that I was heaping praise when I was listing facts. You've yet to refute any of those facts either.; May 29, 2011 at 2:35 AM
Anonymous said...: 204 more posts and we'll have to move back AGAIN!

Post something, linux hater. Your our only hope!; May 29, 2011 at 2:36 AM
Anonymous said...: You're the one trying to insinuate that I was heaping praise when I was listing facts.

I think you went overboard listing his talents.

You were saying he was a critic, whistleblower, calling out bullshit etc.

But he's nothing special. Just another average blogger.

When was he ever a whistleblower BTW?; May 29, 2011 at 2:38 AM
Anonymous said...: When was he ever a whistleblower BTW?

When he announced he was anon a few posts back.; May 29, 2011 at 2:41 AM
Anonymous said...: the mind boggles; May 29, 2011 at 2:41 AM

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