Wednesday, August 17, 2011

progress

In true open source fashion, the community debates the most important issue of the day

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678775

I for one, think we should remove the kernel version number from dmesg output. I mean, it's changing all the time anyways.

5000 flames:

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Anonymous said...

First.

Anonymous said...

Wow, imagine how long it will take them to decide on something important if it takes them that long to decide on something stupid and unimportant!

Ivan Voras said...

Wow, imagine how long it will take them to decide on something important if it takes them that long to decide on something stupid and unimportant!

This of course is the textbook example of bikeshedding: in reality, all truly complex decisions will not be discussed because there are not enough people who understand them enough.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys I think I just my period today since I'm bleeding from my butt. Will sticking a tampon up there help?

Anonymous said...

All right! Now we get a week or two of posts before we need to travel back in time to May 2010!

Anonymous said...

What debate? All that happens is butthurt Asa complaining that *gasp* people are having a discussion within the bugzilla thread (which despite his claiming that it's offtopic this happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME) about why it's a dumb idea whilst he just keeps repeating that he is right.

Santiago said...

ahhahaha WTF it's extremely long for such an idiot thing..

Anonymous said...

The reason it's so long is because most people realize it's a dumb change to make since no one was complaining about being able to see a version number.

Anonymous said...

WE BUILT THIS CITY ON ROCK AND ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!

Anonymous said...

All right! Now we get a week or two of posts before we need to travel back in time to May 2010!

Who else is looking forward to Technogran saying 'lol'?

Anonymous said...

Sir, you can have my version numbers -- when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

Inappropriate Priorities said...

This feature is a priority of the Firefox UX lead and the Firefox Product lead. It is part of the phasing out of version numbers in Firefox that's already well under way

Really, THIS is a priority? Not increasing responsiveness, possibly by fixing two long outstanding problems: memory leakage and lack of threading? Not figuring out how to recapture lost marketshare? Not figuring out how not to be marginalized by Google on every angle?

He even goes further to explain that a simple date stamp won't do: it needs to say "last updated [n] minutes/hours/days/weeks ago" and doesn't care much about the localization effort such entails.

Then he tries sweeping the whole thing under the table by attempting to shunt discourse onto USENET, which he well knows no one outside of child pornographers has used since the late 90s. Those offering contrary opinions are threatened with the banhammer, even though he specifically asked for "feedback".

(Unintentional?) Troll said...

"YES SIR! And who put YOU in charge of Bugzilla? Who the hell are you?"

This was to Asa, lol. Sounds like fake Jerkface.

Asa said...

HOW DARE YOU ALL DISCUSS SHIT ON THE INTERNET??? PREPARE TO LOSE YOUR PRIVILEGES!!!!!!!!!!!!! RARRRRRRRR!!!!!

Feeling Manly said...

I like the idea because it's strong. It's symbolic. It'll send out a message

Yeah, a message that says "We're idiots and can't get our shit together", look at our sorry asses.

Oh! Bugzirra! said...

:^O

What's the point? said...

The primary reason I use the about window is to get the current version number for Firefox.

Isn't that what everyone uses the About function for? If they really wanted to "be bold" they'd get rid of the window entirely. Really, what does tertiary branding and credits do for the end user? Can't that shit be buried on some corporate website no one cares about?

Furthermore, if it's really that important to get the user to see that he checked for updates n hours ago, can't they make it some sort of floating XUL/JavaScript widget that appears whenever you first open the browser? Chrome basically does this by changing the "Tools" icon when there are updates to apply. Since Firefox has copied everything else, why are they wimping out here?

Anonymous said...

Asa needs to resign. Period.

Asa quote said...

"Respect your users or you will lose them. With Firefox, the user is no longer just a spectator, he's a participant. Play nice or face extinction. Seriously."

CAPTCHA: intometh. Asa's new hobby.

Anonymous said...

What debate? All that happens is butthurt Asa complaining that *gasp* people are having a discussion within the bugzilla thread (which despite his claiming that it's offtopic this happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME) about why it's a dumb idea whilst he just keeps repeating that he is right.

Not just this, but a) he doesn't provide a link to the usenet thread, and b) he doesn't even give a reasoning for the change, other than "users are dumb".

Anonymous said...

That's a great quote especially when users of Firefox complain about things and then just get ignored by the devs and twerps like Asa. Because how dare you question the almighty Mozilla and their prophet Asa (peace be upon him).

Anonymous said...

homie need to check hisself befo he wreck hisself

Forced Retirement said...

This bug has been abandoned by Asa per comment 36 which was destined to happen just like every other potentially controversial bug that is posted without prior public discussion or a listed rationale. :sigh: This doesn't have to keep happening...

Oh, so this is a daily occurrence. Some leadership Firefox has. Its precipitous slide into sub-mediocrity becomes more obvious by the day. I assume there was some upper level manager that is no longer with the company who previously tempered Asa.

Anonymous said...

I relinquish this bug to the mob. Have fun.


Translation: I was wrong, but instead of admitting to being wrong I'm going to act all butthurt about it and make up excuses and whine about how everyone was being big fat meany heads!!

Anonymous said...

Awesome reply to Asa's butthurt:

In reply to comment 36:

Asa, I am very much tempted to reply to you in kind, but that would go against my upbringing. You propose this change as the first half of a greater goal that, as is apparent from the heated discussion both here and on major platforms like Slashdot, is either not understood or not shared by a sizable part of the users. We are not "the mob". We are part of your user base. You want the change, so it falls to you to lay out the issues with the current situation and demonstrate the benefits of your proposal in a way that transcends "Because I want it so" or "Because I want to treat a locally installable application as if it was Facebook". (Yes, I know that that comparison was made by someone else. But your statements sound pretty much like it. If this does not describe your rationale, then maybe you might consider explaining yourself in clearer language.)

I do not see an issue with version numbers. They provide a clear unambiguous identifier of a software's state of development. Giving an end user this information does not cause any issue that I can see; Either people do not understand the significance, then they will ignore it altogether or they will be able to deduct that greater version number equals "better" software. Or they understand the significance, then they may have come across situations in the past where identifying the exact state of their software was important to them, eg. for troubleshooting or for finding applicable tutorials or finding compatible extensions, and they may need to turn to it again to solve problems in the future.

I kindly ask for the fine people with the bold visions to fork Firefox under a different name, implement all their ideas - including this one - there and see how it fares out there before turning one of the world's most successful open source applications on its head based on fringe ideas and concepts that simply are well beyond the grasp of the majority of the user base.


You would think that someone who squawks about listening to your users would actually want to heed the comments from their own users... But apparently that makes too much sense and of course the might Asa can never be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Might makes right. Maybe.

Anonymous said...

Mite makes write. They're clever arachnids.

Anonymous said...

niggers

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHA. This is a post about someone mentioning how having a version number helps attributing code to the proper version in case you use any of the Firefox code in some other piece of software followed by:

That is indeed quite good! I wish that information had been more accessible to me. Perhaps adding it to the About page?


To which master of butthurt Asa replies here:

No.

lol

...and all fall down said...

The guy accusing Mozilla of "surreal hubris" was on the mark. Some other Mozilla employee is blaming the fallout on "clueless reporters". Yeah, that's how most scandals start: it's the reporters' faults, not that the subject was doing something interesting (stupid).

Anonymous said...

So is "a browser for idiots" Mozilla's goal? Do they even have a goal? Is there a mission statement somewhere?

Assuming they really want to dumb it down to the level of where version numbers on a buried dialog "confuse" people, how do they expect the audience to get the software onto the machine in the first place? They might not even click "Yes" at the UAC prompt. Why would someone like this want to stray from IE or Safari? Do they think these kinds of people are really going to browse extensions and themes? What does Firefox offer over Chrome, which thus far has struck the correct balance between ease of use and capabilities? Or even Opera?

Firefox got to where it was due to being a power user's browser in a vanilla browser's skin and being fast in the meantime. Chrome is duplicating that approach while Mozilla is apparently willingly committing suicide.

Tell it like it is said...

"On a more serious note, I sincerely hope you die a slow, painful death you filthy piece of human waste."

Anonymous said...

Mozilla is now apparently the thought police:

In response to:

DON'T introduce change for change's sake, and DON'T try to "help" users by protecting them from....what? The horrifying reality of a version number?

Our brilliant little twerp in the linked comment tells us:

To protect them from the wrong thought that anything more than whether they use the newest version (good) or not (bad) matters.


YES, BANISH SUCH EVIL THOUGHTS! How dare you want to stick with a tried and true stable version of something rather than constantly riding the bleeding edge that probably introduces new bugs and issues! Isn't open sores software supposed to be about choice rather than a dictatorship?

Anonymous said...

Another great comment in response to some tard:

No, I'm talking about people who support software, like you know, support functions inside organisations, and support functions supporting paying customer of business who deliver their product through the web.

I can't believe that I have to explain that web browsers are used to browse websites. Firefox is not just used to entertain developers by allowing them to implement or port features.


Italicized part made me lol

Anonymous said...

One of the smartest things Chrome did right off the bat was offer an MSI, something Mozilla has failed to do despite there being a highly used and high tested 3rd party packaging.

Epic Snark said...

"If a user needs the full version information they can get it from about:support"

Sure, good idea. But way too easy. May I suggest to remove 'about:support' also? Or maybe user has to type 'about:support:w4qcav3', the latest being a passphrase given on mozilla.org, but only shown if the browser useragent is IE8...

Florian said...

There must be over 9,000 "Florians from Munich", all freetards, and even they don't the change.

Anonymous said...

I accidentally the whole thing.

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of "IIS Myth" postings on the net lately.

You know, the ones who say that IIS is so insecure, despite IIS having the best record on Secunia.

That trope just won't die.

Nomion said...

40th!!

Anonymous said...

You know, the ones who say that IIS is so insecure, despite IIS having the best record on Secunia.

And they always point to issues with versions 4-5, which aren't even from this millennium.

Freetard Fail said...

Freetard said:
That's behavior I expect out of Microsoft, not Mozilla.

Is this BlameMicrosoft(TM) or some variation of it?

Perhaps it is simply MakeShitUp(TM) because every Microsoft product I use gives me the full version number, including build, from the About window.

Another freetard:
Version numbers are nothing but marketing fluff, and less emphasis on marketing fluff is always a good thing.

Help->About is a very basic end-user function, and the simpler the better.

Freetard, surely this simple end-user function should tell me something 'about' the software such as, I don't know, the version number? But hey, it's marketing fluff isn't it, just like making the browser multi-threaded or reducing memory usage. I know that when Chrome, Opera and Safari boast those improvements, it's all just marketing fluff.

But continually incrementing version numbers is super-important, so long as we never see them.

Microsoft et al must love watching the freetards flail around like this. It's more entertaining than tech comic strips.

Anonymous said...

Blogger must be hungry today.

JoeMonco said...

And they always point to issues with versions 4-5, which aren't even from this millennium.

If you don't know much about the current stuff and want to bash it anyway, that's pretty much the way to go.

Anonymous said...

It is.

Anonymous said...

It is.

Anonymous said...

<old person mode

But...but...knowing the version of my software confuses me!!!

</old person mode

Anonymous said...

If you don't know much about the current stuff and want to bash it anyway, that's pretty much the way to go.

This "time capsule" approach is the freetard way. But god forbid you mention some issue that was apparently fixed in SVN you ignoramus. Being a decade behind market leading products is okay but there's hell to pay if you aren't intimately familiar with the development structure of every minor FOSS project.

Anonymous said...

Butthurt GNOME designer whines about people having the gall to criticize what they are doing.

Anonymous said...

You do see a lot of hackers using Mac OS X these days and I think that's a little bit unfortunate and probably there are many reasons why they do that, but that's not immediately what you might think of as a super hacker-focused OS.

I like this quote from that article. Why would he be surprised by this? Mac OS X has all the Unix utilities and even X11 if you want it and takes far less dicking around with to get up and running than Loonix does. And things like Xcode combined with LLVM/LLDB/Clang make for a much more powerful development environment than you get on loonix with Emacs or vi. I'm more surprised that he is surprised by this.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, should one run anti-virus software at all? Serious question.

I am without AV software since over ten years, and never has something happened.

The only AV software that I currently have in some form is Security Essentials - it's installed in XP Mode to scan files from download.com and the like.

On the host machine itself, no AV software.

What do you think?

Anonymous said...

Most Linux users, the ones that don't write software, are looking for a time consuming project, like a virtual pet or child. "Hackers" (just call them programmers for crissakes) want to get work done and will choose an efficient platform to meet those needs. "Linux daddies" think they are kindred spirits with the programmers but to break out the ol' car analogy, it's like two car "enthusiasts" with one of them amazed the other would buy a 2011 Camaro rather than "do it the right way" by piecing together a car from junkyard parts and shady eBay sellers. The other one is wondering , "What the hell is he talking about? I just want to go fast. I don't care about scraping rust off of door panels."

Bill Lumberg said...

How does this benefit the user?

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, should one run anti-virus software at all? Serious question.

Two conflicting trains of thought:

1) With quad-cores becoming the standard and AV becoming progressively less intrusive (MSE in particular), why not?

2) You're fine as long as you stay away from TPB and similar so why bother?

I can't fault either approach, but, yea, for most of the past 10 years AV was more trouble than it was worth. Especially Norton, to which a virus was preferable.

Anonymous said...

The other one is wondering , "What the hell is he talking about? I just want to go fast. I don't care about scraping rust off of door panels."

In your example, one party has a 6-figure job, a wife, two kids, and a retirement plan. The other has a half dozen half-finished vehicles with plants growing out of them littering mom's lawn. Code enforcement visits on a weekly basis.

Care to guess which is "Linux" and "which does what works"?

GNOME 3 designer said...

[...] we have a lot of work to do. It's not a good developer story at all. Especially if you compare it to some of the easier to develop platforms, the mobile platforms or even compared to the web.

While I'm glad people like him are finally realising Loonix is a shit platform to write applications on, isn't this about ten years too late?

Also, I bet the only reason RedHat are pulling their fingers out is they've noticed Canonical are working on the experience for developers (though again, it's ten years too late).

Anonymous said...

Wow, imagine how long it will take them to decide on something important if it takes them that long to decide on something stupid and unimportant!

Well, it only took them four to five year to start listening when everyone said Firefox was leaking memory like a sieve and a bloated pig in general.

Anonymous said...

"The web" being an easier platform to develop on is damning. Isn't UNIX/Linux supposed to be a programmer's OS? Even worse is an OS has the leisure of controlling most/all aspects. "The web" is a buzzsaw of conflicting browsers and 10 years of version sprawl. Web programmers have among the least control over the platform, which is ironic because "real" programmers tend to look down on them despite them being dealt a worse hand.

Anonymous said...

When a user opens the About window for MY BIG BLACK COCK, the window should say something like "BIG BLACK COCK checked for updates 20 minutes ago, you are running the latest IN LARGE NEGRO PENILE TECHNOLOGY."

It is important to say when the last check happened and ideally to do the check when MY HOT CUM IS LAUNCHED ACROSS THE ROOM AND ONTO YOUR MOTHER'S FACE so that time is very near and to drop AND ENORMOUS FART and simply tell them they're IN NEED OF A BIG BLACK COCK or not.

If a user needs the full BIG BLACK COCK they can get it from ABOUT:BIGBLACKCOCK.

This will of course have ARSE RUPTURING implications. Not sure what the right way to note that is so I've cc'd MARK SHUTTLEWORTH :-)

Anonymous said...

You need to lay off the cock.

Anonymous said...

None of my Firefox extensions work anymore. Thanks, whichever dickhead manager at Mozilla decided this was a good idea.

Anonymous said...

Hey...
Chicks don't like anal cuz' they poop from there.
But regular sex, they pee from there.

WTF @ INFIRIOR LOGIC.

Anonymous said...

It wouldn't be a big deal if Mozilla Corp. would provide a stable extension API with backwards compatibility.

Which goes for all of their products, but why bother listening to users when you can be a dick to people you hate?

Hint: they hate their users.

Anonymous said...

August 17, 2011 5:54 PM

Adam, take an anatomy class. It's the only way you'll learn about the vagina.

Anonymous said...

None of my Firefox extensions work anymore. Thanks, whichever dickhead manager at Mozilla decided this was a good idea.

Well they saw they still had a competitive advantage and took care of business. Now there's no reason not to use Chrome or IE.

It wouldn't be a big deal if Mozilla Corp. would provide a stable extension API with backwards compatibility.

What, meaningless version strings don't do it for you? Give them a break. It's only been nine years. Linux is 20 and they still don't have a stable API.

Drupal said...

Stable APIs are for pussies, even when you're using a dynamically typed language that is forgiving to a fault.

JoeMonco said...

Which goes for all of their products, but why bother listening to users when you can be a dick to people you hate?

The equivalent of "users" in the Unix lexicon is "lusers".

Hell, why deal with the people giving you a purpose with respect when you can just be a stuck-up and treat them like crap?

Note: Incidentally, LHB refers to Linux loons as "lusers". Not quite in the same sense as "users", but you get the idea.

tar said...

TAR RETURNS

zxf said...

Was wondering where tar was.

tar said...

First, how much difficulty would I have removing the version number and cleaning the source? They came out clean as a whistle. Just easily stripped them off. Immature entities, those young Bugzilla comments who are always in an undecided position, are confused.

Second, just how much benefit would I get from it? It solidifies my gut feelings about the utility of the firefox.

This was an important experiment for me though and come away confused as to whether the vision is the future.

Anonymous said...

lunto

Anonymous said...

courn

Anonymous said...

hotyphal

tar said...

Stable APIs are for pussies, even when you're using a dynamically typed language that is forgiving to a fault.

It is supposed to be forgiving in that it will grow within a wide range of its requirements provided the basics are supplied?

Anonymous said...

The basics are but an illusion of forthwith circumstance. Henceforth it is advisable to bludgeon the curmudgeon.

tar said...

Was wondering where tar was.

I forget the blog names Linux something for many months?
But then Linux Hater Blog has a neat new repost so I return.

You going to not like hearing truth. Next step is yours!

Anonymous said...

Ass it out your blow, tar.

Anonymous said...

I fucked tar's dad last night while tar licked my asshole. I then finished up the night by giving tar a cleveland steamer.

Anonymous said...

The equivalent of "users" in the Unix lexicon is "lusers".

Hell, why deal with the people giving you a purpose with respect when you can just be a stuck-up and treat them like crap?


To be fair, the majority of Mozilla Corp. users are using Windows, so the term 'luser' doesn't really apply.

Granted looser may apply, because you'd have to be a looser to want to use thunderbird without the Eudora extension, which conveniently enough, hasn't worked since 3.0. Which brings it all back to the non-existant stable API for extensions.

$ tar czf tarreturns.tar.gz said...

tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive

Anonymous said...

niggers

niggers said...

anonymous

suomynonA said...

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Anonymous said...

i am a bit drunk but I must say i fucking love you guys. You all have provided me with hours of entertainment for YEARS. LIke two years.approximately

Anonymous said...

Just come across this problem, where Google want your phone number to sign up for an account, seems Google hates poor people.

Bunch of fucking control freaks.

LinkInName said...

Sorry, forgot the cunting link. Actually it makes sense that Google would discriminate against public libraries, since their Google Books thingy's aim is to destroy them.

LinkInName said...

Finally, someone willing to ask the big, important question about removing the version numbers from Firefox.

Not sure how long they'll leave that comment up.

Anonymous said...

Because you can't do:
Version: 65536.4096.1024.128.2
Last Update Check: 0.000002 milliseconds ago
YOU HAVE THE LATEST VERSION

JoeMonco said...

Finally, someone willing to ask the big, important question about removing the version numbers from Firefox.

Best question ever asked.

Anonymous said...

I have read a good joke in internet ;) Why did the garbage look sad? Because it was down in the dumps.

JoeMonco said...

I have read a good joke in internet ;) Why did the garbage look sad? Because it was down in the dumps.

Canned jokes? Is that anything like Ken Ham?

Anonymous said...

I have another nice joke. Which side of a dog has the most hair? The OUT side.

Village Idiot said...

OH!!!!11 ITS FUNNY CAUSE ITS TRUE!!!!! OHHHH HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous said...

i am a bit drunk but I must say i fucking love you guys. You all have provided me with hours of entertainment for YEARS. LIke two years.approximately

Yeah, I am almost glad that Linus open sourced his pet project back in 1991.

The anti-linux sites in the past three years provided lots of entertainment.

binplay said...

What the heck, has Jerkface completely deleted his blog?

That's why you should run blogs like these as subdomains.

linuxhaters.blogspot.com and penguinday.wordpress.com do it right.

Using a real domain is risky, because if the blog owner decides to abandon the shop, the domain expires and the site is gone forever, you can't even use it as an archive.

Jerkface may be "meh", but he had some nice articles in 2009 and 2010. Too bad it went belly up.

Oh dang said...

Binplay wasn't indexed by archive.org

That's it, it's gone.

We'll miss you, Jerkie

NT_Jerkface said...

It might take some time of painful waiting, but when Binplay comes back, it will be as stable and fast-loading as Google used to be (but not nearly as evil, of course); practically unsinkable.

You will love the Binplay run by a wealthy, independent Jerkface and those who stayed loyal will be rewarded. I don't forget fucktards, but I also don't forget good deeds.

The entire blog currently rests on an offline backup medium (verified to work), physically hidden Binplay a secret location, and will one day be restored as if nothing had happened.

Think of the site as being in a coma, or in cryopreservation. Just be patient.

Anonymous said...

Will it be better than 'meh' or still the same poor quality that leads to 12 hour marathon flame sessions because you can't write worth a shit?

Anonymous said...

Wow my mostly trolling comment about that Gnome3 developer is rated +4 insightful on Slashdot.

NT_Jerkface said...

Will it be better than 'meh' or still the same poor quality that leads to 12 hour marathon flame sessions because you can't write worth a shit?

I simply cannot host the damned blog anywhere on this planet, unless I somehow manage to afford my own data center, ISP and enterprise-grade equipment. I'll try to make that happen ASAP, but it's not easy. I've known for quite some time that Binplay was never going to make money on its own, and requires massive external backing in some way.

If one of you were an eccentric billionaire, you would've stepped up by now. Truth to be told, I really did honestly believe that a major anonymous supporter (who naturally would get to remain anonymous if he/she so wished) would step up at some point and save the best blog on the Internet from this very sad fate.

Yes, I've truly been in numerous really bizarre situations throughout these years of trying to get the world to accept and praise the most unique Web site (or website, but I don't like that spelling) ever created.

I could write a book about it, but there is no time. As I'm typing this, already almost a week has passed since it was forced offline for the latest, and last time. I have to hurry up so you don't forget Binary Playhouse. I couldn't have more motivation for this final gasp of effort to finally result in success.

Due to the obvious risks, I can't tell the good ones among you about how I'm going to try to make that fortune. All I can say is that it has absolutely nothing to do with Binplay in any way. Please don't contact me about it.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Jerkface just create a free *.blogspot.com name for his blog? Since it's Blogger anyway this shouldn't be difficult. Log in to Blogger, Jerkface, it only takes a couple of minutes to create one of these names.

Though if he did, I suppose he'd still be obliged to write about his experiences on his blog for all us twerps with nothing to offer. And maybe that's the real problem.

Anonymous said...

Because he's a rockstar and needs his own domain name! HOW DARE YOU TRY TO STIFLE HIS AWESOMENESS!!!

NT_Jerkface said...

Log in to Blogger, Jerkface, it only takes a couple of minutes to create one of these names.

I'm now 100% sure that there is simply not a business on this planet which not only accept Binary Playhouse and wants to deal with the fucktards harassing them 24/7, but who also are sufficiently competent when it comes to security and just trustworthy and "stable" in general.

There just is no such thing. Simple as that. That's why I have to do it myself, just like I've done everything else on my own, from physically carrying the first self-built server back and forth, hoping it wouldn't rain, showing up at the bank as soon as they opened to make a payment to weird Russian guys, to (for a couple of weeks once between two real hosts) actually hosting the board inside a virtual machine inside a consumer netbook running on consumer mobile broadband, which had gone by its limit long ago and was pushing out 20 kB/s or so tops, all the while receiving sometimes-more-often-than-weekly "Your account has been suspended" letters from various services, mixed in with death threats.

So before you send me any more of your well-meaning, naive suggestions for alternate hosts: spare yourself the effort; I'm not interested in hearing it.

Anonymous said...

The suggestion is that, since your blog uses Blogger anyway, you might as well get Blogger to host it, since that's free and does everything you want except the special domain name.

This is not really the same as "hey why don't you host your website from your basement using your home broadband".

Anonymous said...

The suggestion is that, since your blog uses Blogger anyway

Ehm, now I am disappointed.

I thought you guys had more IQ than the slashtards.

This guy is of course not the real Jerkface.

Just read what he's posting. Never heard of satire? Sheesh.

kurkosdr said...

Now that Google bought Motorola, are they going to post the instructions on how to unlock the bootloader of the Droid X? I mean, Google wants Android to be open and such, its those evil OEMs that are locking the bootloaders, right? (sarcasm) Or on a second thought , they wont, in order not to upset the precious carriers (althought i m an android fan, i am not a fanboy, and i must admit android got to the point it is now thanks to a great extent of being the carriers‘ bitch)

NT_Jerkface said...

The worst part is perhaps that I'm fairly sure that with steady donations from you, I could've afforded much better hosting.

With so little money to spend, zero financial support and no contacts, everything is just really, really difficult. Now the best blog on the Internet is in a coma.

Anonymous said...

Just tried Google Docs..

SERIOUSLY? TinyMCE is a better word processor than this thing!

No wonder it's flopping. Google must have a very low opionion of its users.

Freetards who praise Google have nothing left, nothing. They flipped out over a link to MSN in XP and such, but are now completely fine with stuff like Chrome OS, where all your data is on a Google server, which runs on hardware with a TPM chip (remember the fuss over "Palladium" ?).

They complain about Microsoft and Apple "dumbing down" its programs, but praise Google Docs which is the epitome of dumbing down.

Google is like a litmus test for freetards, and many fail it.

Anonymous said...

Do you want another fresh joke from net?

What is Beethoven doing in his coffin right now? Decomposing.

Anonymous said...

Google must have a very low opionion of its users.

Every watched someone typing notes on Google docs on a flaky WiFi?

Every couple minutes: *freeze*

And the last three sentences get wiped. Solution? Type into notepad and periodically copy+paste into Google docs.

Future is now!

Anonymous said...

Easy:

Google's stuff runs on a (bastardized) Linux.

That's it. Freetards are easy to buy.

I am sure, if the FBI would announce that they will officially spy on all internet users now using a Linux system, the slashdot comments for this would be a lot tamer than if they would use a Windows system for it.

Hardcore loontards are uncurable in this regard. That's the way it is.

Anonymous said...

Where do otters come from? Otter space.

Anonymous said...

What magazine do cats like to read? Good Mousekeeping.

Anonymous said...

What magazine does a nigger read? Nigga, please, they can't read!

Anonymous said...

Just come across this problem, where Google want your phone number to sign up for an account, seems Google hates poor people.

And they clearly prefer you to have SMS as well. Doesn't Facebook basically require this now, too? Though if you're so poor to own a phone you probably shouldn't be wasting time on Facebook unless you're actually "social networking" in which case Plaxo and LinkedIn are probably better avenues.

Anonymous said...

Jerkface may be "meh", but he had some nice articles in 2009 and 2010.

His push to write more and more articles did him in and quality was clearly suffering toward the end. Most blog writers have problems with pacing. Audience prefers consistency over frequency. When bloggers have a bunch of ideas all at once they should pre-write the entries and schedule for later posting. This doesn't work with current events but comparatively few Linux hate articles require promptness.

Anonymous said...

This guy is of course not the real Jerkface.

But he is TAR.

TAR RETURNS
NT_JERKFACE RETURNS

Anonymous said...

His push to write more and more articles did him in and quality was clearly suffering toward the end

I think there was something else, too. He got somewhat "unstable" towards the end, like his off-topic rants and the "Casper" persona; he also began to delete some comments because they might offend some slashtards.

Remember his plans about that grandiose anti-GPL paper he's writing? Or his attempt to make a "parody site" together with some shaddy businessmen/friend or what was it? Or the "trap" rumours?

Jerkie started to act really strange since the beginning of 2011.

Anonymous said...

remember the fuss over "Palladium" ?

Remember the fuss over a fucking serial number in the Pentium III whose sole purpose was to thwart shady computer show vendors from rebranding a 667 MHz part as 900?

Google is like a litmus test for freetards, and many fail it.

You can go on and on. Windows Update and other "phone home" updaters like Adobe and Java are evil. But then these same people stick up for transparent updates on Firefox's Bugzilla. Google takes this concept to the OS level, and that's even better. So convenient! Microsoft could never manage this!

Google's stuff runs on a (bastardized) Linux.

That's it. Freetards are easy to buy.


I'm surprised Microsoft never made a distro, not even a token one. There's even a semi-use for it: replace or compliment the BSD infrastructure it uses for POSIX compliance.

Of course it'd probably be the most targetable version and Microsoft may have had a hand in furthering Linux...but it'd still be good for them. They could even charge for the interesting bits, like AD integration and GPOs.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised Microsoft never made a distro, not even a token one

Won't help them with the freetards.

You got to admit, that Google uses Linux for everything, including Chrome OS and Android - of course, they just use it and don't give back most of the time, but still.

A token Linux distro by MS would appear just as a token.

There is already an MS certified distro though - Novell Suse.

Freetard's were enraged.

Anonymous said...

@AUGUST 18, 2011 8:30 AM

Good points. He also became more confrontational in the comments where before he struck a good balance a la Kerberos.

Don't forget his intentions to distance himself from the Linux Hate crowd, which was a little bizarre as he only started the blog to provide a place for fresh Linux Hate articles. If you're done with it, fine (which looks like what he did), but trying to parlay an audience never works. He should know better.

I think he claimed the GPL paper was finished like a year or more ago but he didn't want to post it for vague reasons, like it was so good that the Internet might collapse.

He also wasn't honest about the piracy thing and destabilized over time about the issue. He claimed it was about hypocrisy and didn't care about the actual problem, but I think it was obvious that he had at least a tangential link to the games industry. It was always games, never a word about Windows 7, MS Office, Photoshop, Final Cut Pro, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I had the site open in a tab next to LHB, but since 2011 I only went there to read comments from driveby freetards and LHB crossposters.

If I had to hazard a guess, he became gravely disillusioned about something over the past year.

Anonymous said...

You can go on and on. Windows Update and other "phone home" updaters like Adobe and Java are evil. But then these same people stick up for transparent updates on Firefox's Bugzilla. Google takes this concept to the OS level, and that's even better.

Freetards are like our raceguy. If a black man steals something, raceguy would be more pissed than if a white man would do it.

Loontards and racists think very alike.

Anonymous said...

I think Jerkface's GPL refutation and "the trap" were linked. Didn't he or someone say that the weird changes were about increasing traffic and thus ensuring the thing would get read?

Not that it makes any sense. This is the Internet. If the content is interesting it'll be linked to. All he really needs to do is name the article "Why the GPL sucks" and it'll come up in any "sucks" query.

If it were any good it'd be linked to in every comment on his site, LHB, Piestar, and spillover traffic onto Slashdot, Reddit, SJVN, Pogson, and so on. On top of that it'd be picked up by every freetarded blog. In short, it'd be almost effortless getting the thing to the top of search lists.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he just got crazy. No, really.

The odd tone of his off-topic posts made it look as if he is "on the verge".

His over-zealous anti-piracy rants got very odd too. How many of these did he write?

Anonymous said...

"Just went crazy" works for me. Contrast the "anger" styles of LH, Kerberos, and Jerkface. LH is funny and stinging but always controlled. Kerberos is insightful and focused. Jerkface displays seemingly real rage at random targets at an accelerating pace. Emotionally it's like he started out in his 30s and by the end was a teenager. The writing got progressively worse, too, and it's hard to say he didn't give a fuck when he was posting every other day. I occasionally got the impression that some things he talked about weren't real (like the silent partner(s) and sister sites).

Anonymous said...

Plus in most cases he seemed to have this disconnected bipolar nature. One day it would be Linux hate and then the next it would be the "zOMG TEH WINDOZE 7 IS JUST VISTA SERVICE PACK 2!!!1111" and then it was "TEH GEE PEE ELL IS TEH DUMB!!!" and then "DON'T COPY DAT FLOPPY YOU MOTHAFUCKAS!!" He need some fucking focus.

Anonymous said...

I found the baseball talk a little bizarre because he never actually talked about baseball. For writing more than one article about the subject I'd expect a little Mariner talk once in a while, but he never demonstrated any knowledge about the game beyond media proliferation.

It'd be like writing 2-3 articles about how Street Fighter IV was the end of an era in terms of fighting game arcade experience and never mentioning tournaments you participated in or that Chun Li was your favorite character. Just random to bring up a hobby so far away from the main subject matter and offer no depth whatsoever. Most writers would say something like "If Chone Figgins is going to suck this much I can enjoy watching him make outs just as much from home".

Anonymous said...

Jerkface displays seemingly real rage at random targets at an accelerating pace

...

Plus in most cases he seemed to have this disconnected bipolar nature


While we're at it, he also had bad delusions of grandeur.

Like the one where he said that he is the "only blogger" who is/was critical with Linux.

WTF. Says the guy who started his "internet career" on the Linux Hater's Blog? Or his phrases like "I've been saying that Stallman was a madman.. and you didn't listen to me!"

He started sane but got more loony and it really acclerated in 2011.

Baloney said...

Ken Ham 2011-08-18 00:11:45 PDT

Has Joe Monco weighed in on this? I can't form an opinion without help from Joe Monco.

Anonymous said...

Blogger hungry.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing how 95% of the general discussion on the Bugzilla thread is articulate, on-topic, and insightful, while 95% of the snark, strawmen, and goalpost shifting comes from Mozilla employees.

Shocking how they are not concerned whatsoever with the alarming number of people saying "This is the last straw" in highly believable fashion. People who are obviously highly technical, up high enough in support chains to influence mass software deployments, and motivated to make changes and provide general recommendations. In short, Mozilla is engaging in anti-grassroots marketing.

Firefox has turned into a toy that its developers are paid to play with. They're systematically removing all of the undesirable aspects of software management like stability, QA, customer support.

If they don't at least fix the plugins situation Firefox will be a ghost town in a matter of weeks. There's no way those weekend developers are going to commit to Firefox's breakage schedule.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, I'm rewriting some open sores software to be less sucky. Anyone want to join in?

Anonymous said...

Could someone explain the common assertion that Firefox is "more private" than Chrome? By default both send you to Google which is where nearly all the data capturing happens. Not only does Firefox provide search suggestions, it was the first browser to do so.

Most of the complained about things in Chrome can be disabled, but, again, it doesn't really matter when the user willingly sends his search queries to Google. Chrome even explains what the "privacy" options do, but, again, most functions are things already covered by the main search engine everyone already uses.

I get the sense that "privacy" is a desperate buzzword to distract users from realizing that Firefox has little left to offer.

Anonymous said...

Linus Torvalds explained that ARM has a long way to go before ARMegeddon can happen. This is a great read for the Pogson's in the FOSS world. They constantly complain about Intel this and Intel that but at least the PC has a pretty stable target with very little deviation between the two major x86 chip makers.

Anonymous said...

Poor Pogson.

I hope he won't use an "ARMed device" on himself now...

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, I'm rewriting some open sores software to be less sucky. Anyone want to join in?

I'm always interested in open-sauce. How much will you be paying for helpers?

Anonymous said...

the PC has a pretty stable target with very little deviation between the two major x86 chip makers.

The biggest of which is 3DNow! which was:

1) Never widely adopted
2) Never exclusively used (MMX, SSE)
3) A relic of the 90s
4) Dropped from all product lines

Anonymous said...

@AUGUST 18, 2011 10:54 AM

I will pay you in Schrute bucks.

Anonymous said...

To clarify, I will be paying all my helpers 500 Schrute bucks a week for coders, 200 Schrute bucks a week for testers, 100 Schrute bucks a week for documentation writers and 1000 Schrute bucks a week for haters.

Anonymous said...

Who wants to help out in maintaining my game Cock attack.

Anonymous said...

@AUGUST 18, 2011 10:54 AM

Oh and in addition to the Schrute bucks you will get all the :guitars: you can handle because of all the talent that will come together!!! :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

Anonymous said...

How much will you be paying for helpers?

Be glad that you can work on it for free, twerp.

Did you know that many music clubs, bars etc. get paid by the artists so that they can sing there and not the other way around?

Really.

So enjoy the privilige to work for a FOSS project!

Pogson slip said...

1.LibreOffice 3.3.4 is available for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux, in over 100 different languages (more than twice the language coverage of comparable proprietary products)

Available for.. what? Shouldn't it be "the other OS"?!

Anonymous said...

@AUGUST 18, 2011 11:12 AM

Wait, more than double? Office 2010 has like 92 different language pack options whereas LibreOffice has 106 language choices. The difference between them is only 14 and unless the rules of math have changed there is no way that 106 is even remotely close to being "more than twice" than 92. Once again, Pogson speaks from his ass and apparently fails at even the simplest of arithmetic. Btw office 2010 language pack figures from: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/language/ vs LibreOffice language versions listed: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Anonymous said...

Richard Chapman is even more extreme than Pogs.

Richard comments on just about every Pogson article.

Anonymous said...

And actually the gap is less when you take into account that Microsoft uses a single English pack to cover the variations whereas LibreOffice has a separate en-US, en-GB and en-ZA.

Anonymous said...

And "Twitter". Twitter is even more loontastic than Pogson and Chapman combined.

Current posters active at Pogson:

Richard Chapman - loon

Ohio Ham - no comment neccessary

Oldman - tries to keep Pogs in cheek.. didn't work so far

Twitter - MEGA "Linux is GOD" LOON. This guy makes Schestowitz, Chapman and Pogson look sane.

Contrarian - anti Pogson

lpbbear - pretty boring standard freetard.

That's it I think. Have I missed someone?

Pogson tells why he loves the cloud said...

If Google should turn to the dark side I can implement what I need on my own servers.

GOLD GOLD GOLD said...

Wow, this explains A LOT.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure this article is real.

I've searched everywhere for it, but only found that picture, never the original on Reuters or any reputable site that quotes it.

Free speech said...

This is my blog Contrarian. You do not have the right to tell me what to write.. Maybe you should go somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

So after pointing out Poggy was wrong on his "more than twice" claim he then posts this which I'm failing to grasp how it has anything to do with what I posted. Apparently Poggy is unable to just admit when he was wrong.

Anonymous said...

Oh and his attempt at refuting my calling him out about how Office 2010 supports 92 languages he then tries to compare this latest LibreOffice to Office 2003 or Office 2007. You gotta love this classic freetard tactic of comparing years old versions of Microsoft software to the bleeding edge version of some FOSS to try to win an argument.

Anonymous said...

Is Pogson reading this blog?

Just as we were discussing Google today, Pogson posts about it.

Anonymous said...

HP is spinning off WebOS since it was an utter failure. LOL @ HP spending all that money to buy Palm for WebOS and then ditching it less than a year later.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone surprised? WebOS didn't make sense at the time. I'm shocked anyone even had interest in buying it.

Pogson can't read said...

Another example of "Pogsonitis" - his own link is damaging the case Pogson is trying to make.

Is he even reading the stuff he links to?

Anonymous said...

Who's complaining that Google is too big or they're growing too fast? Everything I've read is that their products suck.

Anonymous said...

Pogson says:

If it delivers goods and services at a great price/performance point I am inclined to give them business. I would be irrational not to do that. What’s the alternative? M$?!?! When have they ever done anything in the market not designed to harm competition?

Talk about a non sequitur. What does price point have to do with "harming competition"? Isn't the point of every business to "harm" its competition? How are Microsoft's products not at a competitve price point? Didn't he previously accuse Microsoft of dumping XP on netbooks, even though the primary competition was even lower in price (free)? If it's all about price/performance he should applaud such moves.

Loons seem to live in a world where all firms welcome infinite competition and they're all interested in collaborating on open standards and living in perfect harmony. Except Microsoft. They are the root of all evil. With them gone the world would be perfect.

ARMed Servers said...

Pogson is predicting again.

Anonymous said...

My God, how much time Pogson is wasting with all this crap.

He posts like a madman, several times a day + comments.

His family propably hates Linux with a passion.

Anonymous said...

His wife probably doesn't care. She's always off with the pool boy getting plowed.

Linux Apostate said...

Nah, it's just him. I suspect all the mockery from LHB has solidified his freetard views. We've molded him into the perfect freetard strawman - Google/ARM apologist, Debian user, unable to spell Microsoft without a $ sign, unable to accept a criticism of ARM even if it came from Linus Torvalds. A man who would rather pay a "cloud" company every month for access to his applications than pay "M$" exactly once, and calls this "freedom". And Richard Chapman is just as bad.

Anonymous said...

Freetard once again shows that they have no clue about running a business. This in response to a statement about how Apple has stolen the high-end, high margin PC market from HP. Yeah, who could argue with such brilliant logic. Wouldn't you want your business to have to make 1000 times more sales to only get 10 times the profits as your competitor? Oh wait, that sounds like a crappy idea. Thus, this is why freetards never understand that despite Android having over 50% of the smart phone market share that Apple doesn't care since they make 2/3rds of the profit with less than half the amount of sales needed.

Anonymous said...

Which would you rather have? $100 each from one thousand people, or $1 each from one million people?

The former, duh, which would be more obvious if projected expenses accompanied the figure because there's no way in hell to perfectly scale one thousand transactions to one million. The higher ticket the item, the higher the margin, generally speaking. This is really basic economics, I mean first day of class type stuff.

Pogson gets unreal said...

Oh, man Pogson is just flailing around now.

I am "Techmonk" on his blog, just read his responses to my posts and weep.

After I've showed that Google bullied small companies and isn't an angel by far he comes up with:

Sounds like Google is not accepting dictation by little tyrants. Who are they to tell Google what to do? People put stuff on the web and don’t want it used? Does that make any sense?

Later he is saying that groupware like Exchange is totally useless and everyone should use SMTP.

Same thing with Exchange. M$ produced it to make M$’s PCs more useful whereas in the real world folks can use SMTP directly from their PCs with no need for a special server, extra licences etc.

Twitter's /. Journal said...

Twitter - MEGA "Linux is GOD" LOON. This guy makes Schestowitz, Chapman and Pogson look sane.

It's been linked to several times on here, but bears repeating: Twitter's /. journal is comedy gold.

You know someone's in trouble when Slashtards think they're too extreme in their FOSS advocacy.

He also hangs out on COLA with Schestowitz and a few other loons.

Anonymous said...

Oh and here's a list of Twitter's /. sock puppets.

Some other Slashdotters and I had an exchange with him about this a while back, his reasoning is that M$ have hundreds of shill sock puppet accounts so he has to do the same to defend Linux.

The circle of his reasoning is closed by him believing anyone who criticises Linux (or Twitter) is an M$ $hill; leading him to believe Microsoft are everywhere and seriously out to get him. He's a lot like a member of the Cult of Scientology (if you've ever seen how they react to criticism).

Anonymous said...

LOL, just try sending out email from a SMTP service running on a local machine. There will be like 5 measures in place blocking you.

Twitter's sock accounts said...

Hurrr, forgot the link, durrr.

twitter's Hype Log said...

All the usual hype is flowing about Vista 8.

Is "Vista 8" the new "Losedows"?

This mostly means that Vista 7 was a failure

So any incremental product revision is a declaration of failure? The consumer market requires product revisions to sustain itself.

Vista 7 did not sell as well as Vista did

Despite the fact that it broke sales records?

Vista 8 won't sell any better than Vista 7.

Pretty high bar to meet. They'd have to smash records again to accomplish this.

Vista failure has really killed Microsoft.

Yeah, they're really struggling.

traditional desktops are becoming a thing of the past and everyone looks to Google, Apple even IBM for cool and reliable computing.

Wait, we're claiming Apple doesn't put customers on an upgrade treadmill? For real? IBM's even worse: they sell you some enormous, expensive thing once that you use unupgraded for 50 years and the whole time pay their "consultants" to maintain it.

Twitter said...

All the usual hype is flowing about Vista 8. This mostly means that Vista 7 was a failure, but I decided to log it for laughs. Vista 7 did not sell as well as Vista did and Vista 8 won't sell any better than Vista 7. Vista failure has really killed Microsoft.

Anonymous said...

Pogson:

People have lots of PCs. M$ arranged that is was a pain to own a lot of PCs and made them useless on the network.

AD magically makes M$’s PCs more useful so people end up paying a ton of money for AD and that locks out other systems that can communicate, share, compute etc. without AD.

Anonymous said...

@August 18, 2011 3:12 PM

Wow, I feel the urge to enumerate the problems with that statement, but I'm pretty sure everyone here already knows why it's wrong and the ravings of an outright freetard.

Anonymous said...

All the usual hype is flowing about Unity in 11.10. This mostly means that 11.04 was a failure, but I decided to log it for laughs. Unity in 11.04 did not sell as well as Unity in 10.10 did and Unity 11.10 won’t sell any better than Unity 11.04. Unity failure has really killed Canonical.

Anonymous said...

The circle of his reasoning is closed by him believing anyone who criticises Linux (or Twitter) is an M$ $hill; leading him to believe Microsoft are everywhere and seriously out to get him.

I know here are some people who were freetarded once, but was anyone of you as much freetarded as Twitter?

Anonymous said...

Wow, I feel the urge to enumerate the problems with that statement, but I'm pretty sure everyone here already knows why it's wrong and the ravings of an outright freetard.

I'll give it a try.

SBS starts at $545 for 25 users. If we assume a 5-year lifecycle, that comes to $4.36 per user per year. So expensive! Even if we're talking about deploying to a 5-person network it's still only $21.80 per user per year. Let's reduce the lifecycle to 5 users over 3 years: $36.33 per user per year. Fucking coffee or c-fold towels will run an order of magnitude more than that.

Furthermore, AD doesn't "lock out" anything, not even LDAP. If you really want to you can extend the schema all you want. Just don't come crying to Microsoft when you fuck everything up.

Anonymous said...

So... I take it that Pogson is smoking a crack-heads cock or something?

capcha: Ravotol. When you need to rave but aren't sure where to start, take Ravotol.

Pogsonitis said...

Pogson really wrote himself into the corner today with this Google statements.

More than usual.

Anonymous said...

Twitter and the like are more than just freetards, they are insane.

Freetardia is just something they found to live out their insanity this way.

If Linux didn't exist, Twitter would be paranoid about the Illuminati or the government instead.

FOSS attracted many insanies though, especially in the 90s. I guess if your most visible people are guys like Stallman and Maddog Hall, it's to be expected.

JoeMonco said...

Furthermore, AD doesn't "lock out" anything, not even LDAP. If you really want to you can extend the schema all you want. Just don't come crying to Microsoft when you fuck everything up.

I have got a feeling he is going to scream about "embrace, extend, extinguish", "my students loved GNU/Linux", "thin clients are the way of the future" or similar nonsense and then place a range ban on you.

Anonymous said...

That SMTP statement takes the cake though.

Now I really want to see the state of the LANs he administered.

Pogson's psychic powers said...

Vista is imploding. Loyal customers of M$ are fleeing in every direction to quality. The move to GNU/Linux should be that size of larger because GNU/Linux runs on more hardware and the licence is compatible with generic hardware. If PC sales are about 300 million per annum or 25 million per month, 14 % of units could be over 3 million seats. If GNU/Linux is the same, that is 6 million seats lost to the monopoly in a month and 72 million per annum not going to M$. At some point in 2008, OEMs will realize the wave is travelling quickly and they will paddle hard (selling GNU/Linux) to keep up. Growth could increase dramatically. Expect seats of GNU/Linux to reach about 12% of PCs by the end of 2008

..And he still writes to this day crap predictions like these out.

Anonymous said...

Wow, this explains A LOT

Except that is a fake article. Which tells a lot about the TMR "community"

Anonymous said...

You mean the three and a half guys calling everyone else Adam?

Anonymous said...

TMR is boring as shit. It's just one big circle jerk between BM Suppository, Dr Boring and JoeMongoloid with occasional posting from pirate boi.

Ohio Hams's delusions said...

Ha, caught Ohio Ham lying on Pogson's blog.

He deluded himself into the idea that Star Office was available in 60 languages in 1995.

I've posted a statement from Star Division itself that proves him wrong.

What a little sneaky twerp. I knew he had "issues", but I didn't expect such blatant and outright lies.

Anonymous said...

He makes shit up all the time.

JoeMonco said...

TMR is boring as shit. It's just one big circle jerk between BM Suppository, Dr Boring and JoeMongoloid with occasional posting from pirate boi.

Well, in all honesty, I'm still kind of wondering what sort of people is actually bothered enough to have a beef with TMR, and for what particular reason. Thus far all I have received is complaints about Adam King's usual nonsense being picked apart at "Stream", but, seriously, who in the right mind would sympathize with that chump?

Anonymous said...

Well, he did troll LHB for 12 hours straight. And hasn't been seen since.

That kinda didn't help his reputation.

Anonymous said...

I'm still kind of wondering what sort of people is actually bothered enough to have a beef with TMR

Who has a beef with him? I just called him out for trolling.

The fact that he was trolling about how 'meh' Jerkface is, for 12 straight hours, with multiple people (all being called Adam, of course) was really just icing on the cake.

Anonymous said...

I'm still kind of wondering what sort of people is actually bothered enough to have a beef with TMR, and for what particular reason.

No beef here, just think he's meh. Apparently that's enough to set TMR off on a 12 hour troll-fest, however. Please don't do the same, it's really boring.

JoeMonco said...

Who has a beef with him? I just called him out for trolling.

I am talking about the site, not the person. I don't think it's possible for one person alone to "circle jerk".

Anonymous said...

webOS and ARM FTW!

Anonymous said...

@ August 18, 2011 10:09 PM

I wouldn't say that, Twitter his given it the "old college try."

Anonymous said...

Why did the big moron fall off the roof and the little moron didn't. Because he was a little more on.

His name is Robert Pogson said...

>“Well, it IS a pain a manage lots of PCs without something like AD. No matter what OS is on it.”

Nope. The system admin can distribute /etc/hosts, /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow around to all clients using SSH and no directory is needed except local files on each PC. Trivial. It works. You could argue the admin needs some kind of database but he can keep it on his PC. Everything can be done without needing AD or anything like it. Of course we who use GNU/Linux are not concerned with selling licences for AD and cluttering up the LAN with unnecessary services and servers. I can do it with openLDAP too. I have done it both ways. It works. Why do you think M$ ships their OS without SSH?

Anonymous said...

Doltler changes bug description, gets called on it

Awesome.

Anonymous said...

it doesn't give sense to offuscate the version number like that.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes, I dream about cheese.

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