Linux Hater's Blog: progress

Wednesday, August 17, 2011

progress

In true open source fashion, the community debates the most important issue of the day

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678775

I for one, think we should remove the kernel version number from dmesg output. I mean, it's changing all the time anyways.

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Anonymous said...: It's funny how Pogsons considers the w3schools stats as more authoritative than hitslink.

w3schools is just a single site, while hitslink and the like compile their statistics from hundred thousands of sites.

He just doesn't seem to get it.

And of course, ALL statistics except the one from w3schools are biased.; August 19, 2011 at 6:16 AM
Pogsonitis said...: Lolz, W3Schools is biased against Linux, too.

A lot of that is dependent on M$. PHP etc. can be used on both. So, GNU/Linux will be under-represented.; August 19, 2011 at 6:18 AM
Pogson's Google remarks said...: Pogson's flailing is painful.

Google didn’t do anything illegal or unethical to get where it is.

Despite multiple links which show that Google is pimping up smaller competitors, that's the only thing he comes up with.

He doesn't even try anymore.

"La la la, I can't hear you!"; August 19, 2011 at 6:44 AM
Anonymous said...: @AUGUST 19, 2011 6:16 AM

Duh, statistics that show things contrary to a freetards preconceived worldview are always false or coming from M$ $hills. Now stats, even if they come from the EXACT SAME SOURCE, that shows something that might be negative to Microsoft is unquestionable gospel truth and should never be disputed.; August 19, 2011 at 6:51 AM
Anonymous said...: HAI GUYS I R 1337 H4X0R AND WINDOZE BOXEN ARE STUPIDLY EASY TO H4X0R!!!; August 19, 2011 at 7:41 AM
JoeMonco said...: Pogson's flailing is painful.

What a surprise, eh? Seriously, just look at this stuff and wonder to yourself the amount of rocks he has got to have in his head to completely overlook the security implications of having entire lists of personnel records thrown around peer-to-peer amongst the clients or the race conditions the implementation is going to create when more than one user attempts to update login information at the same time. If he manages to do more than just flailing around, that's when I'll concede that he has done more than being just the regular ol' Pogson.; August 19, 2011 at 7:53 AM
Pogson: I know more about your place than you said...: Pogson reaches the deep end.; August 19, 2011 at 8:16 AM
JoeMonco said...: Pogson reaches the deep end.

Don't you know the entire country of Germany shops at that one small retailer for all their computing needs? Even loving Angela Merkel agrees.; August 19, 2011 at 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...: I love it how he wanted to claim at first that Germany is flooded with Linux and later, when proven wrong, he doesn't even mention the issue anymore and rants about how small shops are better than big shops and his shopping habits in Winnipeg.

Has he ever admitted being wrong? At least once? I can't remember it.

Guy worked as a teacher and educated children, wow.; August 19, 2011 at 8:48 AM
Anonymous said...: @AUGUST 19, 2011 8:48 AM

Since when has a loon EVER admitted to being wrong? They will always try to deflect with red herrings and shift the goal posts to try to win which is why he never admitted to being wrong about the language support in Microsoft Office. Hell even Ohioham had to basically make something up to try to win the argument byclaiming that Star Office in 1995 supported 60+ languages and then was smacked down by Star Office's own literature that stated that it would be translated into nearly 16 languages. Oh the funny.; August 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Anonymous said...: What the heck, Pog's blog is offline.

Maybe it was just too much for him. He got served this time pretty good.; August 19, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Despite having 2 people give out IPs to their Windows boxen little 1337 h4x0r boy still hasn't broken into them yet.; August 19, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Anonymous said...: I have to give some Kudos to Pogson though.

He approves most of the comments and doesn't delete even the ones that expose his bullshit.

That's not a given on freetard sites.; August 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Anonymous said...: OK, Poggie's site is back; August 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: He approves most of the comments and doesn't delete even the ones that expose his bullshit.

He HAS deleted comments but he luckily lately hasn't. But he still at times will refuse to allow something to be posted so it gets lost in moderation.; August 19, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Since when has a loon EVER admitted to being wrong?

Hi, I'm a loon and I admit to being wrong about Linux ever gaining any desktop market share.

I argued that it could and should in the paste and I was wrong, sorry.; August 19, 2011 at 9:46 AM
Anonymous said...: lol, paste errrr, I meant *past*; August 19, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Poggie-san said...: The example of netbooks is described as a “failure” even though M$ lost $1billion paying OEMs to install XP instead of GNU/Linux.

Microsoft failure is Linux success!

It's like GNU/Nineteen Eighty Four up in this bitch.; August 19, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Behold the power cog! said...: For some reason this made me laugh.; August 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Ohioham had to basically make something up to try to win the argument byclaiming that Star Office in 1995 supported 60+ languages and then was smacked down by Star Office's own literature that stated that it would be translated into nearly 16 languages. Oh the funny.

Yes, that was beautiful.; August 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Ohio Ham said...: Big issue to Open Source. I am Important.

Linux Haters and others miss this issue because it makes them kinda non important. Since most of there arguments is that they are important.; August 19, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...: The example of netbooks is described as a “failure” even though M$ lost $1billion paying OEMs to install XP instead of GNU/Linux.

Lose money? How? XP had already paid for itself and then some. Them giving it away practically for free to the OEMs was just more profit on top.; August 19, 2011 at 10:19 AM
Anonymous said...: @AUGUST 19, 2011 9:55 AM

So they basically copied what Google does where it uses a cog as a drop down menu to log out, etc? OMG @ OPEN SORES INNOVATION!!!! Seriously, was does something so trivial warrant a whole article?; August 19, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Secondly that cog menu is extraordinarily cluttered with what looks to be an unrelated assortment of mishmashed options. Was there any design other than:

Shuttlecock: "Throw a bunch of shit in this drop menu!"

Ubuntu "Designer": "COOL!!!!"; August 19, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Lose money? How? XP had already paid for itself and then some. Them giving it away practically for free to the OEMs was just more profit on top.

That's another freetard doublethink. On the one hand, it's "unethical" to charge for software, because it can be copied for free once it has been written. And pressing it on CDs is cheap, too.

But if MS gives XP away for a bargain after almost a decade, they are "losing money".; August 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Anonymous said...: @AUGUST 19, 2011 10:26 AM

<freetard

BUT...BUT...RMS NEVER SAID IT WAS UNETHICAL!!! THAT'S AN M$ $HILL LIE!!!!

</freetard

But never mind the fact that giving away your software as FOSS means you lose all revenue anyway (even the money you were getting to charge for the media to give it away) since your "customers" will just sidestep you and give away your product for free to everyone else.; August 19, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Firefox 7.0 Beta Released. Through I wouldn't bother downloading it since Firefox 8.0 Beta will be out by tomorrow afternoon.; August 19, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Though*; August 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Ho hum. Pogsie doesn't approve my comment in that Google thread of his.

It's now in limbo since two hours, and he has approved other comments in the meantime.; August 19, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Secondly that cog menu is extraordinarily cluttered with what looks to be an unrelated assortment of mishmashed options. Was there any design other than:

Shuttlecock: "Throw a bunch of shit in this drop menu!"

Ubuntu "Designer": "COOL!!!!"

They sat around a monitor for several hours trying out different options!

How dare you question Shuttlecock's wisdom, after all he's been through!; August 19, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Anonymous said...: OK, it's officially Pogson-Approved™ now.; August 19, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Anonymous said...: The Elementary Project has reinvented the control panel.; August 19, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Awesome!

All the best innovations come from FOSS and then the proprietary companies steal their ideas!

I see that Apple have already tried to copy it.
Bastards; August 19, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Anonymous said...: The Apple one is more confusing because it has more options. That kind of stuff is just MarketingFluff(TM).; August 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Anonymous said...: You've got to be fair, there are a few differences:
1) Apple used a black man to depict their users whereas Elementary used white.
2) The Universal Access icon has a white ring around it on Apple.
3) The order of the sections is completely different, and the names a bit different.; August 19, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Pogson is very selective in what he reads, while being completely blind to everything else.

To quote:
“Additionaly the EB1007-B0410 features a Linux Operating System which provides users with a more affordable, flexible, solution.”

Does that sound like ASUS is pussy-footing around “Linux”?

Great.

Lets take a look in the ASUS PDF that he linked to, with regards to business:
The EB1007-B007F features a Windows®7 Professional operating system,
which helps users maximize productivity and safeguards critical data with advanced
backup options. The operating system allows users to perform routine tasks easily with
only a couple of clicks, saving time and maximizing efficiency. The EB1007-B0410 features
a Linux Operating system, which provides business users with a budget-friendly computing
solution

Ahh, so business users buy the Windows 7 version, whilst the Linux version is for cheapskates. I find it great that of all the "benefits" of Linux, the only one which ASUS deemed relevant to businesses was that it's "budget-friendly".

Pogson really is a grade A freetard. He should win an award.; August 19, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Anonymous said...: The funniest part about people like Poggy is they don't realize that most of the people who work on the Linux kernel hardly use the OS and have switched almost exclusively to Mac. Someone better not tell him because he'll probably have a heart attack.; August 19, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Linux Torvalds thinks virtualization is "evil". lolwut? Why do Slashdtards jizz over every thing Linus says? Especially when he is wrong in a lot of cases.; August 19, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Anonymous said...: @AUGUST 19, 2011 12:26 PM

Well, duh. Asus knows that for productivity you use something other than a tinkerer's OS. They aren't stupid, but they will still try to pander to businesses with freetard slants.; August 19, 2011 at 1:23 PM
Avi Romanoff -- lol said...: Hi, I'm Avi, the creator of Switchboard.
I'm only going to comment once about the "copycat issue", so here goes.
I agree with you that the issue of Mac "copycatism" is a massive problem. I'm not kidding when I say that it literally kills me inside to know that people (see below) will dismiss dozens of hours of hard work and love on the grounds of similarity to another successful project.In early in the creation of Switchboard I tried for literally one week, along with a number of developers and friends to try and come up with an alternate, less obviously similar designed. I failed. I nor any of those I asked were able to come up with a design that maintained all the convenience and ease of use of the current layout, yet still seemed different enough so as to avoid all question of immitation.The fact of the matter is, (and as before, it pains me to say this), there are only so many ways to design something. The theme and styles may change, but fundamentally you can't get around laying out app tiles on a grid. If you think otherwise (and I sure hope you do), I encourage you to come up with alternate designs, and share them with me. I will absolutely entertain each one and seriously consider it. Seriously. Hit me up at ~aroman on irc.freenode.net. I hang out in #elementary-dev. Or shoot me an email at avi[at]elementaryos.org. I would very much appreciate it.I appreciate your taking the time to comment on this project with thought and consideration. I wish I had a better answer for you, I truly do. But this is the reality I (and anyone else up against hundreds of best-in-the-world engineers and designers) has to face.; August 19, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Anonymous said...: This is even better than that Ubuntard developer who -- along with several colleagues -- sat around for *several hours* to design the butt ugly scrollbars in 11.04. This guy took a *whole week* and couldn't think of anything better than copying Apple's control panel verbatim.

But don't criticise, it's the best the FOSStards could come up with, so suck it up!; August 19, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...: @ August 19, 2011 12:59 PM

Fuck slashdot. -Linus Torvalds; August 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Anonymous said...: the race conditions the implementation is going to create when more than one user attempts to update login information at the same time.

What are you talking about? Networks are always run by one guy and never contain more than a dozen computers.; August 19, 2011 at 5:24 PM
Anonturd defends releasing user information said...: Anonturd desperately tries to defend Anonymous' release of thousands of peoples' personal information from the BART web site.

Interview starts at 31:00.; August 19, 2011 at 5:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh and he starts getting *really* defensive at 40:00

WAAAAAH, two wrongs make a right!; August 19, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Anonymous said...: But...but...it's all about government transparency!! Well unless we say it's for teh lulz! Well at the same time we will also release people's credit information and other personal information despite claiming to care about privacy!

That saddest part is sites like Slashdot eat the whole Anonymous shit up like it's the greatest thing ever.; August 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Anonymous said...: What, so anonymous has 'membership' now?

Still not as lame or creepy as whatis-theplan.org; August 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous hacked into the BART website, myBart.org, and leaked the names, phone numbers and passwords of train passengers

Take down them train passengers!

They are the focus of evil in the modern world.; August 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Networks are always run by one guy and never contain more than a dozen computers.

And every client should be running Sendmail. It's just common sense, people!

Captcha: bramen; August 19, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Does he really think anyone cares when he whines like this? Most people struggle to generate empathy for people they know. Blubbering onto the Internet is just embarrassing, especially when you're doing it in a professional capacity. It's bad enough when some hormonal teen in a chat room is threatening to kill himself, but I gotta listen to it from someone who's probably getting paid to produce this mediocre shit?

And he lacks the introspection to see that he has the creativity of a rock. The best is he op-eds his supporters, telling them they "are doing a great job". But only Microsoft employs shills.; August 19, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Shuttlecock: "Throw a bunch of shit in this drop menu!"

Ubuntu "Designer": "COOL!!!!"

Ubuntu "Designer" goes back to Mac workstation and updates design in Photoshop.; August 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Anonymous said...: If you're working on Ubuntu control panel software, you're already dead inside IMHO.; August 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: HP are going to stop making computers? Good. Their computers are terrible.; August 19, 2011 at 5:56 PM
Matthew Moron said...: Epic backpeddling in that Switchboard thread. Can you imagine the reaction if Microsoft copied, say, k3b? Washington would be ablaze.

Linux is a professional collective that will take over the world. Until one of them is caught red-handed at sucking. Then it's just some guy doing it for free leave him alone so mean gonna make his wife cry.; August 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Anonymous said...: I am talking about the site, not the person.

Well the guy that runs the site (and names himself after the site) is obviously a little crazy. I think that reflects on the site itself.; August 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Anonymous said...: unless I somehow manage to afford my own data center, ISP and enterprise-grade equipment.
..
save the best blog on the Internet from this very sad fate.

WTF dude?; August 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Then it's just some guy doing it for free leave him alone so mean gonna make his wife cry.

What I hate most about freetards #24601: they killed off the shareware tradition, by making it 'immoral' to not release source.; August 19, 2011 at 6:05 PM
HP said...: @August 19, 2011 5:56 PM

Anonymous: how dare you threaten my company's financial security at a time when we're truly struggling.

Thanks for making my wife cry!; August 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Joe Monco:

I already explained my problems with TMR more than once and am surprised you haven't picked it up as I know you still follow the comments.

TMR is fundamentally flawed in its community-driven approach. When it was launched I understood the goal to be to create a catalog of TMs as they were in use--a LH dictionary. But that's not what happened at all. Instantly all sorts of uncreative and invented terms appeared, upvoted by their creators. Yeah, if you play around with the sorting you can kind of get it to display what you expect, but 57 pages of TMs? You gotta be kidding me.

Both the execution and the "feel" of the site feel half-finished. I don't know if it was trying to be ironic, but TMR is the perfect FOSS project.

On top of that, the site attracts the most annoying posters, both from the hater group and the freetarded trolls, and this is reflected in all areas of the site.; August 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh, and another thing: the site is extremely slow for me on a consistent basis.; August 19, 2011 at 6:24 PM
Anonymous said...: It's interesting to see all the other Linux hate sites that have come and gone in the past 3 years.

LHB Forum, Linsux, JFPlayhouse, TMR, Piestar..

Yet Linux Hater's Blog is still the strongest of them all.; August 19, 2011 at 6:29 PM
Anonymous said...: @ Power Cog

Almost 100 comments on the power cog icon.

How long does it take a thread about a stable ABI or standard SDK to be closed and the user banned for trolling?; August 19, 2011 at 6:32 PM
Have You Seen ‘Ubuntu’ In Public? said...: I saw it when in a railstation.
(when i looked to a screen i saw that Firefox was crashed and then i saw Ubuntu!. :D); August 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...: the goal to be to create a catalog of TMs as they were in use--a LH dictionary

It should have been more like bash.org.

I think esp. with the 'stream' TMR was trying to be (like jerkface) the "new" linux hater.

Nowdays I don't even like quoting TMs because, after this trolling here, I don't want to give the guy any more page hits.; August 19, 2011 at 6:38 PM
Anonymous said...: It was long before the final blowup, but I ceased using TMs as well partly due to not wanting to associate with the site. The disappearance of driveby freetards had a lot to do with it as well.; August 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM
Anonymous said...: From the Matthew Moron post above:

If you have an idea that is better than their, please, by all means contact them with your mock ups and proven usability testing results that will blow their minds away.

This attitude is so fucking banal, you don't have to be an expert at application design/development to see one app is a rip-off of another. Nor do you have to have developed a better app of the same type.

It's just intellectual dishonesty.

It's very easy to criticize something or someone without understanding what the game is all about. In case of ElementaryOS it's the user and a seamless interaction with the system.

No, I think it's pretty easy to spot a rip-off.

If I go to a Chinese market and buy a 'Reerok' t-shirt and someone tells me I've bought a knock-off, it would rightly be fucking stupid for me to reply, 'You obviously know nothing about t-shirts, there are only a certain number of t-shirt designs possible and this is the best one!'; August 19, 2011 at 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...: TMR became lame when Adam Queef and his sockpuppet "Want2BFree" were spamming the site with shit and then when our little pirate boy kurosdr was doing the same thing. The site is 99% unadulterated crap. Stream of Fail is also mostly full of suck.; August 19, 2011 at 7:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Another knock against TMR is that it's the worst programmed Hater site, which is really saying something when Blogger is in there. Stream can't even process URLs right.; August 19, 2011 at 7:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Linux Journal goes digital only. Many freetards become butthurt.; August 19, 2011 at 7:10 PM
Anonymous said...: I had no idea that Linux Journal was printed, ever.; August 19, 2011 at 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Yet Linux Hater's Blog is still the strongest of them all.

When someone asks why anyone bothers to post here instead of whatever other blog, message board, whatever, it's because everyone knows whatever alternative is most likely to fizzle out anyway and before it obtains an audience equal to what this place has. So everyone stays. It's been three years and nothing's proven the sentiment wrong. Jerkface and Piestar were the best candidates but both melted down. Piestar is back, kind of.; August 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM
Anonymous said...: You obviously know nothing about t-shirts, there are only a certain number of t-shirt designs possible and this is the best one!

What's funny about the excuse is that if the freetard had actually attended CS classes his professor would had fed him that line on the first day of class and have said that it's bullshit and that he knows when students are copying and off of whom.; August 19, 2011 at 7:32 PM
Inner-platform effect said...: Can't believe this wiki article on plugin sprawl mentions Firefox and not Emacs. On the topic, I never did understand the pathological desire to run FTP clients and shit inside the browser. I mean if they were the best example, fine, but usually they are vastly inferior and the only advantage is that they run inside the browser (which is hardly an advantage).

Personally, I think ever since the advent of Windows Desktop Search for Vista (and Quicksilver/Spotlight for Mac), the "mental load" of switching applications has become nearly non-existent. Remembering the application name to type into the field is easier than remebering how to make Firefox access plugins (status bar? In the main menu area? Tools menu? Context menu? In some cascaded menu?); August 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM
Anonymous said...: What's with the "confusion" of browser version numbers? Do they really think that lowly of their audience? Software version numbers are fucking easy: they only go up. Try dealing with car models where a "300" can be twice as good as a "600" but add "50" to either and all bets are off.; August 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Jerkface and Piestar were the best candidates but both melted down.

JFPlayhouse was just starting when LHB went into EoF mode.

His early stuff was OK but then all of a sudden he did his 'rebranding' to Binplay and attempting to 'mainstream' the blog.

Had he stayed with Jerkface Playhouse it probably would've taken over from LHB by now.

How come haters end up flailing and trolls like Adam King or Tar actually keep their blogs?; August 19, 2011 at 8:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Had he stayed with Jerkface Playhouse it probably would've taken over from LHB by now.

Yeah well that's the problem. They all meltdown. In Jerkface's case he went to the loony bin. And I mean the real one, not the general "loon" we make fun of.; August 19, 2011 at 10:17 PM
Vladimir Putin said...: Barack Obama is a pussy.; August 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Anonymous said...: If my heart had cockels they’d be warming right now.; August 19, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah well that's the problem. They all meltdown. In Jerkface's case he went to the loony bin.

I had not read Binplay since the Macbook rant. By that time he was lazy and unfocused.

Kinda wished I'd kept on reading through his meltdown. Meltdowns can be fun to watch.; August 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Fucking Blogger. Fix your fucking heuristics. It's been like two years of this shit. Fucking spamassassin gets it better than this and that's freetarded.; August 19, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Anonymous said...: fuck; August 19, 2011 at 10:49 PM
Anonymous said...: On the topic, I never did understand the pathological desire to run FTP clients and shit inside the browser.

Back when I was a fully-fledged Freetard there were no decent FTP clients for Linux. The only choice was that add-on for Firefox (whatever it's called).; August 19, 2011 at 10:50 PM
Anonymous said...: what about ncftp or gftp; August 19, 2011 at 10:52 PM
Anonymous said...: FireFTP; August 19, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Anonymous said...: What's decent about those?; August 19, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Anonymous said...: they wear clothes when guests drop by; August 19, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh well that's nice of them. What about the bastard neighbor kids?; August 19, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Anonymous said...: What was the point that Jerkface jumped the shark? Candidates:

• Gradually devolving focus/topicality
• Gradually devolving writing quality
• GPL Anti-Manifesto vaporware
• Jerkface's Playhouse -> binplay
• I spend all day in coffee shops but hate hipsters and Macs
• Silent partner
• "The Trap"
• Multiple (secret) blogs
• "Not associated in any way with LHB"
• Only person in the world rallying against freetards
• I know you big sites read my blog (rockstar hater)
• Windows 7 = Vista SP2; August 19, 2011 at 11:03 PM
Anonymous said...: • Baseball
• Piracy, piracy, piracy (but only indie games)
• Deleting comments
• Men's Health magazine -> homosexuals
• Deleting blog entries
• "I hate every religion and belief system"
• "Meh"
• "I have to ask who the fuck are you? This whole thing is getting fucking ridiculous."
• Kitten mittens
• Gradual spiral into insanity; August 19, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Anonymous said...: • "My goddamn motherfuckin site motherfuckin motherfuckers motherfuckin fuck fuckface motherfucker"; August 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Anonymous said...: • Jerkface's Playhouse -> binplay

This.

I think the 'silent partner' and 'parody site' BS was at about the same time.

Piracy, piracy, piracy (but only indie games)
• Deleting comments
• Men's Health magazine -> homosexuals

Left before all this started. LOL he was nuttier than I thought.

Captcha: pingism; August 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM
Anonymous said...: • "My goddamn motherfuckin site motherfuckin motherfuckers motherfuckin fuck fuckface motherfucker"

What is this referring to?; August 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM
Anonymous said...: I assume it references his pedophilia.; August 19, 2011 at 11:19 PM
Anonymous said...: The rant on page 1 by NT_Jerkface.
Doubt that that's the "real" jerkface though.; August 19, 2011 at 11:22 PM
Anonymous said...: That Nt_Jerkface who was posting here yesterday/day before is an excellent parody.

+5 Funny.; August 19, 2011 at 11:58 PM
Anonymous said...: ncftp or gftp

gftp had inexplicable bugs, not sure about ncftp, seems command-line only.

I could probably handle the command-line client happily now, but back then it was a bit too much (even for a Freetard).; August 20, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Anonymous said...: That Nt_Jerkface who was posting here yesterday/day before is an excellent parody.

Can tell that it's a parody because it is better written then anything Jerkface actually wrote.; August 20, 2011 at 12:06 AM
Anonymous said...: What is the reason for using FTP in 2011?; August 20, 2011 at 12:11 AM
Many Eyes this, bitches! said...: Check out the if statement I just wrote in PHP, I'd love to see the Freetard ManyEyes™ understand this impossibly fucked-up spaghetti:

if (!empty(${$t}['p'][$ta['t']['b]]) && ${$t}['p'][$ta['t']['b']]! = 'xerxes') {

This code coming to an Open Sores project near you soon!; August 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Anonymous said...: What is the reason for using FTP in 2011?

It wasn't 2011, this was a good few years ago. :)

Unfortunately though, some CPanel-using clients of mine still require me to use fucking FTP, usually because they're being paranoid about granting root access to their servers.

They have no problems paying me thousands of dollars in down-payment before I start work on their shit, but grant root access on the test server... Never!; August 20, 2011 at 12:16 AM
Shodan said...: Look at you, hacker: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?; August 20, 2011 at 12:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Jerkface couldn't lead a group of pedophiles into a elementary school.; August 20, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Badger said...: Pogson: Bring the spirit of Stalinism to personal computing!; August 20, 2011 at 1:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Unfortunately though, some CPanel-using clients of mine still require me to use fucking FTP, usually because they're being paranoid about granting root access to their servers.

Hmm there are plenty of more secure ways of granting access than allowing FTP, like RDP on Windows or SSH on Lunix.

Admin must be a neckbeard who party's like it's 1995.; August 20, 2011 at 1:26 AM
Anonymous said...: @August 20, 2011 12:28 AM

At least give us a link; August 20, 2011 at 1:27 AM
Badger said...: When I clicked to publish my previous comment, Blogger took me to a page where Google recommended that I give them my cell phone number.

It is not possible to be more divorced from reality (well, unless your name is Pogson.)

I am surprised that they didn't simply demand it, and then verify whatever random number I typed in, and then threaten to delete my account if I did not give them my real number.

But I am confident that they'll get around to it eventually...; August 20, 2011 at 1:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Guy can't accept that gimp developers were wrong in rejecting "filmgimp" patches; August 20, 2011 at 2:15 AM
Anonymous said...: @ August 20, 2011 1:29 AM

If you look closely, there is a link for ignoring that request beneath the input box.

Hidden, in typical google fashion.; August 20, 2011 at 2:18 AM
Anonymous said...: When you get an email with the sig Sent from my iPhone, does anyone else think What a douchebag?; August 20, 2011 at 3:04 AM
Anonymous said...: No. Not at all.

Sent from my iPad; August 20, 2011 at 4:13 AM
Anonymous said...: I always think:

"Wow, what a cool guy! He must be really creative and smart. I bet he totally thinks outside the box. No, wait, not just outside the box. This guy redefines the whole paradigm that us muggles can only call 'the box'.

"You think you're hip and edgy with your specially-imported limited edition Fairtrade coffee beans in a fucking Graze box, but this guy is so far beyond you that he's decided that coffee is for proles and only drinks imported tap water from a small village in Bangladesh. It's the best water, you see."

Sent from my Windows Vista computer because I'm too cheap to upgrade.; August 20, 2011 at 4:28 AM
NT_Jerkface said...: Sent from my Windows Vista computer because I'm too cheap to upgrade.

It doesn't matter anyways. Windows 7 is just Vista Service Pack 1.; August 20, 2011 at 4:39 AM
Anonymous said...: As someone who stopped using a Linux desktop 5+ years ago, the sentence:

"I’ve tried pretty much everything there is to try and I’m sticking to a combination of GNOME 2.32 + Docky + GNOME Do at the moment. "

Sounds fucking insane. You're using Docky and GNOME Do, huh? Well I'm using Windows and Visual Studio, and actually getting shit done.; August 20, 2011 at 4:46 AM
Anonymous said...: You're using Docky and GNOME Do, huh? Well I'm using Windows and Visual Studio, and actually getting shit done.

Linux user: "I sleep in a race car!"

Windows user: "I sleep in a big bed with my wife."; August 20, 2011 at 4:48 AM
JoeMonco said...: Linux user: "I sleep in a race car!"

Windows user: "I sleep in a big bed with my wife."

Is this supposed to be part of a story about an OS user approaching mid-life crisis and having to put up with his parents and single brother from across the street?; August 20, 2011 at 6:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Well I'm using Windows and Visual Studio, and actually getting shit done.

Please remember the courtesy flush, thank you.; August 20, 2011 at 7:11 AM
Pogson Bot said...: Pogson is unbelievable on his Google thread.

It's as if he has a firewall in his brain.

He's like a bot.

10 "Show me the stuff Google did to stiffle competition"

20 *Stuff shown*

30 goto 10; August 20, 2011 at 8:00 AM
Anonymous said...: LOL @ Pogson being schooled in multiple languages.

Unsurprisingly he's not actually addressing any of the points Frenchie is making.; August 20, 2011 at 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...: What is the reason for using FTP in 2011?

Some businesses support nothing else. Even if you actually talk to their tech guy and ask "What's up with not having SFTP?" or "Why even bother with FTP when nobody uploads and HTTP is far easier to set up?" they'll just shrug their shoulders. And I can't blame them. They probably set it up years ago and can't be bothered.

But FTP sucks. It still doesn't work right through NAT, especially with some sites running an FTP server inside their LAN, which means you're going NAT -> NAT (and maybe a few more times), which introduces all kinds of fuckups.; August 20, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Anonymous said...: I have to laugh at this new wave of "anonymous Internet is dying" with Google+, Facebook, etc. requiring invasive verification. The argument is that these services are so prolific that there will be "nowhere to hide" when they are eventually integrated everywhere. It will be impossible to post on any blog or whatever without divulging your true identity.

Please. All this will do is create a new Internet underground. It's not like there are any realistic barriers.

Also, site owners are (slowly) discovering that they can't count Facebook traffic in their analytics, both because the data is unavailable and because Facebook controls the ad space. Why so many websites are falling over themselves to surrender ad views to Facebook is beyond me. Unless you're the type of business that holds events and can use social networking to build hype, you should actively shun the service.; August 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM
Anonymous said...: When you get an email with the sig Sent from my iPhone, does anyone else think What a douchebag?

Sometimes because I know the user is aware of the signature, has the capability to change it, but keeps it because he wants everyone to know he's an Apple fan every time he sends a message.

But if the person is over 35 or so I assume he's generally unaware that a signature is attached and doesn't have the wherewithal to drill down to disable it.; August 20, 2011 at 9:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Now move to GEGL’s commit log. It starts on January 2, 2000, with commit of the very same username, “People doing a 16 bpc version of gimp”. The last commit from that username in GEGL was done on December 22, 2003.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong because it's been a long time, but didn't it go something like this:

Hollywood: Here's Film GIMP, it's an upgrade.

GIMP: Nuh uh it doesn't do things the GIMP way resubmit doing it the GIMP way.

Hollywood: Okay, I think this is what you want.

GIMP: [endless nitpicking]

Hollywood: Fuck this it's been five years and you guys are disorganized control freak assholes.; August 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Meant to bold first paragraph, but due to Blogger's hunger I omitted retagging it.; August 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM
Anonymous said...: The link he provides does nothing to dissuade me from the opinion. The situation is reminiscent of Konqueror/Safari. The easiest way to modify a project is to just add features directly but when you release the source upstream wants everything in digestible chunks and to be pluggable against the trunk. This is a totally unrealistic expectation unless the project is designed to function in this way, which it nearly always isn't. The Film GIMP guys naively and earnestly attempted to work within the GIMP project structure but discovered that isolating their work into a module was far more work than just forking the project and making it into something different.; August 20, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Anonymous said...: What's missing from the FOSS philosophy is that when someone improves the project but makes changes incompatible, the onus is on the upstream to make it right, not the ones with the improvements. The fork philosophy attempts to cover this but does not do an adequate job. I can remember only one time this actually happened, when EGCS overtook GCC.1 Just about every other time both sides entrench their positions until at least one project dies. Before that no work gets done. Another example is Lucid/XEmacs.

1 You could argue XFree86 -> x.org but that was a relatively clean transition. There weren't two competing projects with different feature sets with one anointed the winner, which is really how FOSS should be run.; August 20, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Whew, that was a lot of work. Blogger's spam filter has been abominable lately. It was okay for a while, triggering only occasionally, usually when attempting to link from the body, but the past week or so it's been worse than ever, even when it was brand new. I've never seen worse heuristics than this. It's totally unpredictable.; August 20, 2011 at 10:19 AM
Comment 208 said...: nothappyuser 2011-08-19 15:36:08 PDT

n.0.0 to (n+1).0.0 is expected to maybe break things. (major feature changes)
n.k.0 to n.(k+1).0 is expected to rarely break things. (minor feature changes)
n.k.l to n.k.(l+1) is expected to break nothing. (security and small bug updates)

Everyone knows this. Everyone. My grandma who is scared of computers knows of this concept. It's time tested and shown to be good.

Power users, developers, and Enterprise are getting increasingly upset with the decisions Mozilla is making with Firefox. Please stop ignoring us. Please listen to our input.

We won't hate you if you renege on how the current versioning is. It's okay. Seriously. Everyone makes mistakes. It was an interesting idea, but you can clearly see that it's not working as you expected. If you just said "Oops", and then said that Fx7 will be 6.1, then everyone will be happy. As much as we'd love it to go back to 4.x, staying in 6 will be fine, as long as the version incrementation is put back to how it was.

I beg that you listen to us. Please? <3

-jessica

=====

Awww, how could you say no to that?; August 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM
douchebags said...: Now the Mozilla devs start lashing out.

Comment 212 Ed Morley [:edmorley] 2011-08-19 19:14:00 PDT

nothappyuser, Yesudeep, jra & any others itching to keep on replying:

This bug has been closed as invalid per comment 206, so no further replies are necessary. Every reply spams the 100+ people CC'd to this bug.

If anyone feels the need to continue posting, the best place is here:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.usability/browse_thread/thread/fe75ec92c02be934

Thanks! :-)

[Disclaimer: I am not a Mozilla employee, nor do I have any vested interest in this bug]

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You have "no vested interest" but are towing the party line by attempting to stifle debate and doing damage control. lol, sure.

As for spam, now whose fault is that, really? The people replying to an idiotic idea or the one who came up with it? How many people will have read all 200+ comments to see midnight backpedaling and how many people saw the description and maybe first few comments and react to that?

In short: you people made this mess. Stop blaming others.

Asa Dotzler [:asa] 2011-08-19 19:20:14 PDT

[...]

Ed, are you trying to shut down this amazingly constructive discussion :-) Why would you do that? There's plenty of yet to be covered ground here. I suggest you wait until it starts to get repetitive or vitriolic before doing that :p

=====

What a smug asshole. How the hell does someone like this get to the position of front person? I can't think of a worse candidate to put at the forefront of a company. This thread was one of the most rational and insightful debates over something so monumentally stupid I've ever seen.

And way to go to dispel the notion that Mozilla ignores user feedback. Nothing like snark and uncalled for insults aimed directly at your vested userbase to accomplish that. Well done.; August 20, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Anonymous said...: I thought for sure that'd be eaten by Blogger, but...; August 20, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Subsequent comment: "Please note that this change is not even being considered for SeaMonkey, the evolution of which seems more attuned to what end-users really want."

Which may be true, but who wants to use Seamonkey, the browser that reminds you of semen because of its congealed, sticky, horrible mess of a UI. It has "end-users" like Joseph Fritzl has children.; August 20, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Webkit makes Firefox, Seamonkey, and every other Gecko browser redundant:

1) Because of iOS, Android, Symbian, and Kindle, Webkit is available on more platforms and has has leapfrogged Gecko as the most ported/portable browser. Gecko's only unique targets are ancient systems like OS/2.

I know Firefox is available for Android, but it's beta and does not have glowing reviews. Even the positive reviews say stuff like "Even though it's really slow and crashes all the time I think it's awesome!" Oh and there's no Flash support. Best part is it has resource consumption issues there, too. Fail.

2) Supported by a company (or two) not dependent on a direct competitor. Don't think I really need to explain how Mozilla is an ass-fucked position.

3) Webkit has split-process model built directly into the core. Firefox can't even provide separation at the application level.

4) It meets all FOSS requirements and then some as more hands are involved in it than Gecko, thereby giving a higher level of confidence that it will be supported in the future.; August 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Firefox Release Channels said...: EXPECT: An awesome Web experience that answers to no one but you!

Except for Asa unilaterally deciding to remove features that have been standard on every app for the past 30 years. Or forcing and obfuscating upgrades. Or disabling different sets of plugins every few weeks until they're all broken.

But, sure, have it your way, as long as "your way" is constant breakage and PR lulz.; August 20, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Another Mozilla PR image said...: This whole thing is reminding me of the unstable Linux kernel API/ABI. Both Linux and Firefox promise "awesomeness" as the result of their highly unstable development processes but all anyone sees is breakage and entropy. Exactly what "awesomeness" have these changes wrought? Broken plugins? Pissed off users? Burned out developers? The browser still has the same problems it did before and less features. Totally awesome.; August 20, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Dr Loser said...: One last time:

ThisBlogIsYourBlog(TM)

Dedicated to LHB in the first place, and the likes of Kharkalash in the second place.

Just try harder, will you?

'Bye!; August 20, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Anonymous said...: By trying to do too much, the Firefox developers end up doing too little. They should settle for a more realistic release cycle.

Am I right in thinking that Asa's version number madness is just a reaction to all the corporate support departments who said "Firefox 6? But we've only just rolled out Firefox 4! What the fuck are you doing?" To which Asa responds "OMG remove all version numbers!"

Also, now that WebGL is on by default for everyone using Firefox 6 (many, many people), how long until the first major WebGL drive-by exploit?; August 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Shodan said...: @August 20, 2011 12:28 AM

At least give us a link

You have performed well; for an insect.

Transmitting cybernetic modules.; August 20, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Anonymous said...: I see Dr Loser has broken his promise. Weak.; August 20, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr Loser's fabricated TM is one of the most freetarded strawmen I've seen in some time. It's got it all. You can't criticize unless you make your own blog. We don't owe you anything (even though no one asked). Badly written, ADD-riddled, rage-tastic, butthurt counters against arguments no one ever made.

Incidentally, "anonymous" posters, which includes you, do provide the vast majority of content. Your home turf is nearly entirely user-generated. Piestar took a year off, providing nothing, and came back weakly. Jerkface's posts have been more poorly written and less insightful than the comments for the past year. LHB posts 50 characters like 4 times a year, most of the time picking up something already discussed in the comments. Yeah, some real effort there.; August 20, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Meanwhile this place generates 50+ posts daily and usually with the highest quality unless Kerberos happens to post something.

Finally, if you don't want to hear trash talked about your favorite site, tell your gay lover Joe Monco to stop asking about it. And do learn how to control yourself. You'd think a man of your age would know better.; August 20, 2011 at 1:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Meanwhile this place generates 50+ posts daily and usually with the highest quality unless Kerberos happens to post something.

You mean Karkhalash (or however it's spelt), or are you talking about the guy who runs Piestar?

And do learn how to control yourself. You'd think a man of your age would know better.

Well, he does work for M$, what do you expect? I heard that Dr Loser was hired to play with Ballmer's Bing-a-ling.; August 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM
Anonymous said...: You mean Karkhalash (or however it's spelt), or are you talking about the guy who runs Piestar?

The guy who runs Piestar. His stuff is good when he posts, and he attracts good discussion but it dies down after a few days.; August 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Anonymous said...: @ August 20, 2011 1:12 PM

Wow, the idiotism; hey anon-cretin, some of us don't share your anti-blogger sentiment.

Keep your trap shut (not that this blog can be made any less uncivilised).; August 20, 2011 at 1:47 PM
Anonymous said...: The guy who runs Piestar. His stuff is good when he posts, and he attracts good discussion...

That's because you're not there.

So we can actually discuss without random debasing slur being tossed around!; August 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM
Anonymous said...: I laughed quite heartily.; August 20, 2011 at 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Looks like August 20, 2011 1:12 PM has run away with his tail tucked. Good riddance, racist cretin. The world needs less of you. Good bye, sir.; August 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM
Anonymous said...: You, my children, are the fruits of so much imagination and labor. Living beings with the speed and effeciency of machines. But I must strive further to serve life. I will devastate Earth's cities with my laser. Then alter those left alive with mutagen viruses. Humanity is on the verge of a new era.; August 20, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Is that you Shodan, or is it one of your sockpuppets?; August 20, 2011 at 1:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Not convinced.; August 20, 2011 at 2:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Who else could it be, if not Shodan?

Queefer(?), he can't write this well.; August 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Robert Pogson said...: I support Shodan because her primary data loop is partly based on FLOSS, her CPUs are ARM, and she will destroy M$. Shodan is a great computer.; August 20, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Anonymous said...: TAR RETURNS; August 20, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Robert Xerxes said...: This is Pogson. Can you not feel the glory of the Cloud? Do you not yearn to be free of the tyranny of the individual?; August 20, 2011 at 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Pogson the issue to infinity. And beyond. Not so much the collateral perpetrator.; August 20, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Anonymous said...: If Pogson really joined the many, his enormous mental blockage and reality distortion field when it comes to Freetardery would subvert the group consciousness into serving the GPL.; August 20, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Ken Ham said...: Just posted this question on Pogger's blog:

Hi Robert and Richard Chapman, hope you don’t mind this being somewhat off-topic, but a few of us on the Linux Haters’ Blog were wondering:

Would you support Shodan if her code was FLOSS and she ran on ARM processors?

Just asking out of curiosity, thanks!

Not sure it'll be published but thought I may as well ask.; August 20, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Anonymous said...: I can't think of a worse candidate to put at the forefront of a company.

You forgot RMS.; August 20, 2011 at 5:36 PM
tar said...: TAR RETURNS

I work on the concept of internet through radio where the computer and radio are integrated as one small portable-sized system and do not have time to chat or respond to personal postings or comment on the stories.

You need be patient and ready, expect a few failures in the beginning but finally the wisdom will be free from the chains and TAR will return to Linux Hater's Blog.; August 20, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Hollywood: Here's Film GIMP, it's an upgrade.

GIMP: Nuh uh it doesn't do things the GIMP way resubmit doing it the GIMP way.

Hollywood: Okay, I think this is what you want.

GIMP: [endless nitpicking]

Hollywood: Fuck this it's been five years and you guys are disorganized control freak assholes.

The email that guy linked from Rhythm & Hues seems to support that version of events.

As someone else already pointed out it is upstream's responsibility to merge the patches and they chose not to.; August 20, 2011 at 6:20 PM
Anonymous said...: You will serve me in the NetherRealm.; August 20, 2011 at 6:31 PM
Anonymous said...: This fight will be your last.; August 20, 2011 at 6:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Fear me.; August 20, 2011 at 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Police brutality, coming up!; August 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM
JoeMonco said...: "TMR is fundamentally flawed in its community-driven approach. When it was launched I understood the goal to be to create a catalog of TMs as they were in use--a LH dictionary. But that's not what happened at all."

It still is.

"Instantly all sorts of uncreative and invented terms appeared, upvoted by their creators."

I have no comment on how the creators supposedly vote up their own stuff (because I don't), but before you say anything further, I'd like to ask you for your opinion on how the voting system realistically affects the presence of an entry in anyway. Even entries created by blatant trouble-makers hardly gets deleted, after all.

If you think 57 pages are a bit too excessive, then mind if I point out that urbandictionary.com has over 6 million definitions of whatever they are supposed to be on display? The problem here lies within how you are supposed display those definitions in an orderly fashion (which TMR at the moment seriously lacks), not how many they are on record.

"Yeah, if you play around with the sorting you can kind of get it to display what you expect, but 57 pages of TMs? You gotta be kidding me."

There is no sorting of any manner at this point in TMR, which I think is a significant problem.

On the other hand, I have personally categorized all those "57 pages" of TM into 9 categories by hand. Again, if you think that amount is by any means excessive, then think 6 millions.

If you think there are rooms for improvement, make a suggestion, or else start your own reference site in the way that you think is right. I am happy with either approaches.; August 20, 2011 at 6:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Mmmbop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, Ba du dop
Ba du bop, Ba du dop
Ba du
Yeah

Oh yeah
In an Mmmbop they're gone
Yeah yeah; August 20, 2011 at 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Urban Dictionary is 10x the site of TMR and its value is delivered via Google Search relevance.

There is no sorting of any manner at this point in TMR, which I think is a significant problem.

I got it to sort by popularity.

If you think there are rooms for improvement, make a suggestion, or else start your own reference site in the way that you think is right.

What's with you guys and this incessant "Well where's your site Mr Smartypants?" You asked the question (twice), and you received answers. I don't care about improving the site because it's so far below my threshold of caring. I wouldn't care if it disappeared forever.; August 20, 2011 at 7:02 PM
JoeMonco said...: "Meanwhile this place generates 50+ posts daily and usually with the highest quality unless Kerberos happens to post something."

You mean the highest quality of "Jerkface is stupid", or the highest quality of "communism vs. capitalism"?; August 20, 2011 at 7:04 PM
Anonymous said...: I dunno, Monco. Why don't you try reading the last 360 comments and see how many pertain to Firefox, GIMP, Pogson, Webkit, etc.; August 20, 2011 at 7:06 PM
JoeMonco said...: I got it to sort by popularity.

So it works? I was always under the impression that it didn't (given plenty of stuff there was broken in one way or another anyway). My bad.

"What's with you guys and this incessant "Well where's your site Mr Smartypants?" You asked the question (twice), and you received answers. I don't care about improving the site because it's so far below my threshold of caring. I wouldn't care if it disappeared forever."

I don't get the logic here. Why on earth did you care enough to complain in the first place if was below your "threshold of caring"?; August 20, 2011 at 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...: I cared enough to provide an evaluation but not enough about the subject. It's like writing a review about a bad movie.; August 20, 2011 at 7:14 PM
JoeMonco said...: I dunno, Monco. Why don't you try reading the last 360 comments and see how many pertain to Firefox, GIMP, Pogson, Webkit, etc.

No joke. The first n-word appears half way down on the first page. Then every thing else was about Jerface's blog. Then there was stuff about Pogson sandwiching stuff about TMR (which I am replying to). Then half way down on the second page, the comments were all about Jerkface again.

And I have posts on both pages.; August 20, 2011 at 7:20 PM
Anonymous said...: So if there are any posts that offend your sensibilities then all other content is rendered invalid. Got it.; August 20, 2011 at 7:26 PM
JoeMonco said...: So if there are any posts that offend your sensibilities then all other content is rendered invalid. Got it.

I am just addressing the claim of "highest quality". Someone has to find a way to measure that properly somehow, don't you think?; August 20, 2011 at 7:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Please don't make this into a 12 hour flame session.; August 20, 2011 at 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...: It's pretty easy. LHB has the most posts, the longest and most detailed posts, the most consistent posting, and the most posts relevant to the subject matter. Your argument is that if there is any noise at all then all else is invalidated, though I know you don't really believe that else you would have bolted from TMR the instant Adam King or WantToBeFree started posting.

If you really wanted to push a signal-to-noise argument then I guess Piestar would be the winner but you might wait a year for an update and watch the site go down for two weeks. Hardly anyone posted on it during the hiatus except for drivebys who discovered the GIMP article.; August 20, 2011 at 7:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Please don't make this into a 12 hour flame session.

Don't worry, I'll go to bed long before that.; August 20, 2011 at 7:44 PM
JoeMonco said...: Please don't make this into a 12 hour flame session.

I wish I had even 4 hours to burn in such a way.

But, carry on.; August 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM
JoeMonco said...: It's pretty easy. LHB has the most posts, the longest and most detailed posts, the most consistent posting, and the most posts relevant to the subject matter.

Really?

If you really wanted to push a signal-to-noise argument then I guess Piestar would be the winner

Really?; August 20, 2011 at 8:15 PM
John Stamos said...: Joe Mongoloid hates LHB because he's boring, he hates anon posters because he gets called out on being mind numbingly boring, that's why he prefers the namefag-only blogs.; August 20, 2011 at 8:21 PM
Rebecca Romijn said...: Blow it out your ass, John, JoeMonco has been through enough.; August 20, 2011 at 8:28 PM
Rebecca Romijn said...: I can't believe I married the fat kid from "Stand By Me."; August 20, 2011 at 8:30 PM
Anonymous said...: It looks like Google+ is already turning into yet another failure.

Motorola's next!; August 20, 2011 at 8:34 PM
JoeMonco said...: he hates anon posters because he gets called out on being mind numbingly boring

It. Hurts. So. Hard.; August 20, 2011 at 8:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Using a stylus with the ipad. Just funny how everything we do as humans is so much better with some sort of tool.; August 20, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Anonymous said...: The problem with JoeMonco is that all his posts are meta or snark.

I liked JoeMonco better when he used to copypaste from wikipe.. from "books."; August 20, 2011 at 8:53 PM
Anonymous said...: If you really wanted to push a signal-to-noise argument then I guess Piestar would be the winner

I'd say Linux_Victim, simply because noone comments and the posts are gold.

Except that one about IE 10 and Vista.; August 20, 2011 at 8:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Don't dare criticize another Linux hater site or the nametards will TROLL YOU.

Monco is most active when defending TMR. Just like TMR went nuts defending Jerkface.; August 20, 2011 at 8:57 PM
Anonymous said...: So why is Google buying Motorola not an antitrust concern?

Imagine if MS had bought Dell, oh how the freetards would foam.; August 20, 2011 at 9:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Great counter-arguments, Monco. Must have been stressful racking your brain for 35 minutes to think up "Really?"; August 20, 2011 at 9:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Don't dare criticize another Linux hater site or the nametards will TROLL YOU.

They're bizarrely dissatisfied whether you compliment or criticize another hater site. Either way they interpret it as demanding something from them, even though neither of both of today's engaged nametards operate anything of note.; August 20, 2011 at 9:09 PM
Anonymous said...: I see Dr Loser has broken his promise. Weak.

Dr. Loser promised not to post here?

I had assumed he had started taking his meds and gone back to working as nite janitor for "Microsoft."; August 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Google+ is dead said...: The Anon above is right: Google+ is as good as dead and this blog pretty much sums it up.

tl;dr: Facebook was shitloads better than MySpace. Google+ is not shitloads better than Facebook (and for that matter, Bing isn't shitloads better than Google).; August 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM
Jerkface is back! said...: A little different to before. But refreshing!; August 20, 2011 at 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Google seems to be making a lot of very bad decisions.

I mean, $10 billion for Motorola. How many adsense ads to recoup that??; August 20, 2011 at 9:15 PM
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish said...: Dr. Loser promised not to post here?

Yes, and he mangled a Douglas Adams reference while he was at it.

(Linking Blogger never works for me. It's on page 22, "4201 – 4400 of 5000"); August 20, 2011 at 9:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Good find!!

He promises "last post" but then posts twice in the 15 minutes after that.; August 20, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes, and he mangled a Douglas Adams reference while he was at it.

Being a troll and breaking your word is one thing, but mangling a class Douglas Adams reference... let's just say Hell had just got one ring deeper.; August 20, 2011 at 9:41 PM
Anonymous said...: I'd say Linux_Victim, simply because noone comments and the posts are gold.

Thanks, had that in mind halfway through the argument then forgot about it. That's a problem with the site. Everyone knows about it but never goes there. I'm subscribed to the comments RSS but there's like one per month.

Though I didn't explicitly say it, I was really arguing for a "package", a combined value of blog content and reader comments. LHB since 2009 is on one extreme with nearly useless posts but heavy comment activity and Penguin Day on another with 4-star posts and no feedback. Piestar is somewhere in between. Jerkface fit the bill in 2009 and some of 2010, but I don't think it was ever better than Piestar other than in frequency and overall traffic.; August 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM
Anonymous said...: The problem with Linux hate is that it's almost always people that have had real world experiences with Linux, and so have jobs, lives etc. and little time to spend blogging.

Like scotch, Linux hate is an acquired taste.

And considering that the subculture probably only numbered in the 100s at its peak, finding someone willing to spend real time maintaining a LH blog is difficult.

Contrast to the freetards with their colorful feel-good propagands of getting stuff for free, and armies of advocates of which the most vocal are students with lots of free time and nothing outside of classes except to blog.; August 20, 2011 at 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...: LHB since 2009 is on one extreme with nearly useless posts but heavy comment activity

I'm actually suprised at how slow the comments have been given that this is a new post.

Usually a new post brings all the freetards out of the woodwork that have had LHB dormant in their RSS.

So far, the majority of posters seem to be the 'regulars'.; August 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM
Anonymous said...: I have to laugh at this new wave of "anonymous Internet is dying" with Google+, Facebook, etc. requiring invasive verification.

If anything it's easier than ever to be anonymous, having multiple email/facebook accounts etc.

I'd be suprised if even 25% of facebook accounts actually had real people behind them.; August 20, 2011 at 9:55 PM

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